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Fab & Glam 11 - A New Chapter

386 replies

Tanee58 · 11/08/2010 19:07

I figure that the reason I haven't been able to post all day, is because we've run out of thread - again!! Grin Hope you all find this, my fellow Teabags. Smile Are contenders for the longest-running MN thread?

Anyhoo, TFM, I have a tent, and an inflatable mattress. And I quite fancy a trip oop north!

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ginnny · 10/11/2010 12:44

Hi. I know the feeling. My job bores me senseless sometimes, but then I think of the alternative and I'd rather be bored here and get paid for it!
Hope everyone is OK.
I'm fully loved up with new DP. I have got over my wobbles which I told you about at the meet up and after a brilliant weekend together, I have realised that I really do have very strong feelings for him.

Now I'm scared it will all go wrong as I like him too much!!!
I am a nightmare sometimes - I do my own head in Grin

ladylush · 11/11/2010 10:46

Ah how sweet Ginnny Smile Just enjoy it Smile Has exp been leaving you alone?

Any word from TFM? Or Baffy? How is everyone else?

PC working again so can type again. Feeling a bit shite atm. Got a cold, mouth ulcer, a yeast infection and dermatitis. Apart from that, feel great Hmm

ginnny · 11/11/2010 18:09

I wish lush. He barged into my house in a drunken rage yesterday, hit me, hit DP, terrified the dc. Managed to get him out eventually and called police.
They are still looking for him nowSad
DP was wonderful. He's so supportive.
I'm fine physically he was too pissed to do much damage but i'm a bit shaky and tearful. Must be the shock.
Sorry typing is crap but using phone.

ginnny · 11/11/2010 18:10

Hope you feel better soon ladylush! [Smile]

ladylush · 11/11/2010 18:18

Shit Shock What a bastard. Injunction? Hope you are all ok

Anniegetyourgun · 11/11/2010 18:32

OMG Ginnny! Thank goodness no-one was seriously hurt. He hasn't quite got the hang of winning back a lady's heart, has he? Hmm

Sorry to hear you're under the weather, LL, and sorry to have missed your question (the boards must have been moving fast on Tuesday!). I'm temping in a despatch company. Home early today because DS4 has done his best to sabotage my career by leaving his key at home. So I had to forego 3 hours' wages and battle home in the ghastly weather-affected traffic. I wouldn't want to be one of the drivers today. And I wouldn't want to be DS4 if he does that again.

ginnny · 12/11/2010 11:22

Does anyone on here know anything about getting an injunction?
I'm getting nowhere fast. I don't qualify for legal aid as I earn too much Hmm and can't get an emergency injunction as I wasn't actually beaten up and in fear of my life Shock
Shame I actually work for a living - if I was on benefits I'd get one for free Angry
He hasn't been picked up by the police yet, which is good because he will be staying away from my road as they are patrolling every night looking for him, but when they have got him they will let him go and then he'll go straight to the pub and you can figure out the rest!!!
I'm off to DP's for the weekend. Can't wait to get away!!

HappyWoman · 12/11/2010 11:31

Ginny feel so sorry for you.
Can you get a free session or at least a cheap session with a solicitor.
It may not be legally binding as such but the fact that you get a solicitor to write to him with intentions of an injuction may enough to scare him off.

Have a fab weekend anyway

ginnny · 12/11/2010 11:38

I tried the CAB and I can have a free 10 minute advice session but they will then charge for anything else.

The good thing is that the police have put my number as high priority so if (God forbid) I have to call them again then they will come quickly.
To top it all I've had my neighbour screaming at me as the police woke her kids up when they knocked on her door asking if her arsehole husband who is friends with XP had seen him.

That was the final straw and I let her have it!!! Stupid cow!!!

ladylush · 13/11/2010 10:29

I was astounded to see that there is a website called injunctiondirect. Good grief Shock Talk about cashing in.......anyway, have a look Ginnny - seems quite straight forward but don't know how the costs compare.

Givenchy · 14/11/2010 12:31

Hello all.

So sorry about your ex Ginnny. He has really lost it Shock

I have loads of news but h is around, so I am just popping in.

Manly hugs to you all x

ladylush · 15/11/2010 21:04

How's it going ginnny?

ginnny · 17/11/2010 10:12

Its all gone quiet here!!
Police still haven't caught up with him, which is good in a way as it means he's staying away. I've got no chance of getting an injunction, and tbh he'd ignore it if I did.

He tried to call me at work today but I hung up on him, then got a colleague to answer my phone so hopefully he'll get the message.
It does feel like the calm before the storm though, I'm on tenterhooks waiting for what he'll do next Sad
NM has been promoted to DP - he has been brilliant, he's one in a million, to put up with all this shit and still be here, I was terrified I'd lose him over all this last week but we spent the weekend together at his place and if anything all this has made us closer.

The dc are fine now too. They were a bit shaky for a few days but have settled again as kids do.
Anyway this is all me, me, me again. Hope everyone is OK.

xx

Tanee58 · 17/11/2010 13:30

Ginnny, sorry I've only just caught up with this - am awaiting new laptop. Shock at ex's behaviour. I had an exbf who stalked me and though I couldn't afford an injunction, a solicitor friend wrote to him, threatening one, and that did the trick (though he called a friend of mine two years later...) However, it sounds like yours wouldn't honour an injunction anyway Sad. Could the police charge him with assault? Maybe taking him to court would send a stronger message than an injunction, if that's possible. And it sounds like the police are taking it seriously, if they're still looking for him.

Glad to hear NM has been promoted to DP. Long may it last Smile.

All well here. DP and I saw a counsellor last night and are vetting another one tonight. Last night's went well. DP admitted he feels angry all the time & suppresses negative emotions, and feels deep shame at his behaviour towards DD - which is a start (mind you, he's said as much before). He also said, as before, that he feels there's no solution. The counsellor said there's always a solution, it's a case of working on it - and that he needs to reduce his drinking, as it releases his anger. We'll see what tonight's one is like and then decide whether to pursue things with one of them, or try another. At least DP seems willing to try therapy again, which he wouldn't before.

Oh, and I had my annual cancer checkup, and my oncologist says I don't have to go anymore, as I'm well into the all clear period. Hooray!! SmileGrin

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ginnny · 17/11/2010 13:44

Well that's fantastic news Tannee! Good luck with the therapy. It's great that he is willing to open up and try it. A real step in the right direction.
You are right, he wouldn't honour an injunction anyway. He'd probably see it as a challenge! We are going to ignore him for as long as we can and I will be spending weekends at DPs house for the foreseeable future. Ex has no idea where DP lives so its like my safe haven!

ginnny · 22/11/2010 12:45

Quick Update:
ExP got arrested at the weekend and they have charged him with forced entry and common assault! His bail conditions are that he is not allowed any contact with me and he has to stay away from my house. HURRAY!!!
I actually feel free of him now!!!
Just had a fab weekend at DP's although it wasn't exactly restful with 4 dcs charging about the place but he's great and the dc all got on really well.

HappyWoman · 22/11/2010 17:01

4DC - easy peasy Grin. only joking.
I would say it gets easier but it doesntGrin.

Things not too good here - h job going good but he is back to 'old self' where work is the top of his list.
whereas at the moment DS and uni interviews are top of my list.
Even though I have asked if he can work from home or take a couple of days off before i book train tickets for going with DS - there always seems to be a problem at work with is far more important than helping me with the childcare. Sad.
I have therefore resorted to thinking like a single mum and arranging someone if I am not around.

I fear his arse is creeping up his own backside again Sad.

At least i know i will be ok and will not be a wreck on the floor ever again.

Tanee58 · 23/11/2010 15:17

Ginnny, that must be a huge relief. At least he'll learn that he can't mess with the law. Glad the dcs are all getting on well.

HW oh dear. Would you be able to sit him down and remind him that he has family responsibilities, too?

All still well-ish here. We weren't totally taken with either of the counsellors last week. The second one, of whom I probably had too high hopes, was rather deaf and couldn't hear DP - who tends to whisper when he's not on stage! He said they were just 'middle class, middle aged women looking for a hobby' - and I had to agree. We weren't reassured by one of them telling us how much her BIL annoyed her by sitting on her sofa with a jittery knee. Seeing a new one at the counselling service attached to our doctor's surgery tomorrow. Really, really hope she comes across as more professional. At least he's admitted he's behaved badly over DD and that he needs to address the drinking. And he's said that he doesn't, deep down, want to end our relationship. No sign of him cutting down the drink, though Hmm...

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HappyWoman · 23/11/2010 19:15

Tannee - its got worse
apperently his needs are far more important than mineSad.

All that bloody counselling and he has the lingo - he feels i have not seen to all his needs - not just sexual but things have been a bit lacking of lateBlush.
Or course he is putting all the blame on me - and to be honest i am putting it all on him.

We seem to have come to a bit of a crisis and neither of us is willing to compromise at all.

I feel strong at the moment but will probably come calling for your help again.

It is not the old problem by the way but because i think i am more willing to stand up to him and demand things he does not like it and so we are locked in battle about some really silly things.

He does seem to have slipped back to some of his old habits though and so i am unwilling to 'give in' even a bit.

Wish me luck and pray i will be strong - it could be a cold long winter.

ginnny · 24/11/2010 10:08

HW - you poor thing. Good luck, I hope you get things sorted.
Tannee - jittery knee? WTF? She sounds like a nutcase!

Are you going to BACP accredited counsellors? My friend is a psychotherapist and she always recommends to look on this website when choosing a counsellor.

Tanee58 · 24/11/2010 15:26

HW that's awful. I'm getting to feel a bit dubious about the benefit of therapy for some men - or what exactly these counsellors are telling them. I know someone else whose exH is doing therapy as a recovering alcoholic, and the result is that he's blaming her for all his problems, and his drinking. It's scuppering any chance of a reconciliation between them. I always thought that good therapy should be about moving beyond blame, and learning to take responsibility for yourself!

Ginnny, yes, all the counsellors came from the BACP website, and I tried to pick ones who had several years' experience and qualifications. One didn't even return my phonecall. The one with the fidgetty-kneed BIL was definitely odd. I couldn't understand why she felt she had to tell us this, as it shook our confidence in whether she could help us, when she couldn't help herself! But as people say, it's such a personal thing, that what suits one person, won't suit another. The one we're seeing tonight said, when I tolde her that we'd already seen two counsellors who didn't 'feel' right, that success depends on the dynamic that goes on in the room, between the two/three of us. I hope the dynamic with her is better, as this is such an expensive venture.

Personally, I would love to see the counsellor I saw when DD's father and I split up and I wanted advice on how to help her come to terms with the breakup. He was brilliant, and came free from a service for teenagers. But it looks like he ONLY deals with teenage issues and doesn't treat adults.

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Tanee58 · 24/11/2010 15:30

Of course, thinking about it, the problem does involve DD, even though it goes deeper - so maybe I should contact this service again....? except of course, that with the funding cuts, they no longer see out-borough cases. Damn! Or maybe he'd see us privately? Hmm. Will think on.

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ladylush · 24/11/2010 22:18

Tanee - don't give up on the counselling. Unfortunately it really is trial and error.
I really think it's worthwhile getting in touch with the counsellor you saw with your dd - many therapists work privately as well.

Ginnny - great news about xp being charged. And good news about the bail conditions as well. Result :-)

HW - sorry to hear that your dh is being rather selfish. Hope he has a reality check soon. I did like your comment about his head and his backside though ;-)

All is ok here. Finding it hard to get time to do essential things but such is the lot of a working mother! I'm looking forward to some time off over xmas. Most of all, am looking forward to some cheeky daytime naps when dh is off :-)He can have the morning lie-in and I'll disappear to my bed at 2pm. Delicious!

How is everyone else?

Tanee58 · 26/11/2010 12:19

Well, looks like we might have found the right counsellor - at least, the one we saw on Wedesday seemed much more professional, more perceptive, and very positive. DP said afterwards that it felt like a quite different experience with her. This morning I said, well, shall we continue with her? He said initially, let's talk about it tonight (having said the same thing yesterday, and we didn't) - and I said, look, it's Friday, if we want to see her next week, we need to book the appointment today. He then said, she seemed overly keen! Hmm and I said, Darling, you will find something wrong with EVERYONE - we both liked her, why don't we try a few sessions and see - and maybe she was keen, because she could see we needed help! So he laughed and said ok, book it - and I have. She certainly seemed to pick up well on some of the points that came up, and agreed that at some point, it would be useful to bring DD into the meetings. She said it seems that DP has low self-esteem and a self-destructive pattern that comes into play every time he's happy, that DD maybe triggers something from his past, and that I probably have had several relationships with people with low self-esteem, because I am a natural 'rescuer'. All true! She also said that we are a glass half full and glass half empty couple, and that's why we're together. We laughed at that. She also commented that we seem very caring of each other, so it's worth working through what's gone wrong. Not bad for an hour and if that was being overly keen, I found it a very uplifting kind of keen. If she doesn't work out, I will try the teenage specialist guy, though it looks like he's based outside London, judging by what I've googled on him.

The only thing is - DP really does need to address the drinking. And I really wonder if he's ready to. I don't think any amount of therapy will be effective long term, unless he does. Anyhoo, watch this space.

Hope everyone else is ok and keeping warm.

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ginnny · 26/11/2010 12:35

Well thats encouraging Tannee.
It sounds like DP was getting cold feet, it is a scary process and maybe he wanted to procrastinate for a while before committing. But good for you for pushing things forward while the momentum is there, I think that is definitely the way to go, strike while the iron's hot!!
Regarding the drinking, maybe the counsellor will suggest he gets separate help for that a bit further down the line - one step at a time!
I'd love to see you two have your 'happy ending'. You obviously love each other very much and you have such a romantic back story.

Good Luck Smile