brave battling babes get even better without the booze!

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10 weeks ago i started a thread asking for help - i was in a very desperate place, totally dependent on alchohol, unhappy, lonely and floundering around trying to make sense of it all. i was in danger of losing everything i hold dear.

in those few short weeks, i have got my life back and picked up a few computer friends along the way - we help each other, support each other, and laugh and cry together - if you would like to join us, please feel free - no judging, preaching, sermonising or moralising - we are simply ordinary people with a bloody awful illness!

JWN - my thoughts exactly! However I cannot control his drinking so I really, really try to hand it over (AA speak!)

Thanks for the hug! Meeting is tonight. Got amazing support there.

Hey Redmoomin sorry you feel low. Sending a big computer fairy hug.

I'm worried about how I can manage a social life without drinking, I work full time so I tend to go out once a week with my friends, we are out until midnight - one oclock, we get drank, we smoke...Am I going to lose my freinds if I'm different ?

God I feel ill. I hate this feeling, hate it. Feel shaky and sick and have a dry mouth. Why have I done this to myself - again?! Oh yes, because I am insane when it comes to alcohol. Sorry for ranting Babes. Just feel the need to keep posting - feeling very needy this morning.

Moomin, read my 'salutary tale' of someone who has spent nearly 20 years running a private treatment centre who has just been 'brave' enough to share his own relapse with the world. STOP BEATING YOURSELF UP!!

It was a little slip. End of. Don't count your days since you had a drink. Count the number of alcohol units you have had over the last 12 months. It is not that many, is it? On averages, you are probably ahead of the national average, yes? I think so. Give yourself a pat on the back, start again and (capitals) stop beating yourself up.

Reread my post and imagine what it cost John Coates to write that and still continue with his recovery work.

Same to you, Trinity.

Redmoomin how you doing?

Did anyone watch the Mitchell and Webb show last week about only ever having 2 drinks (and the end of the world happened because no one should be allowed near the nuclear button if they are a bit 'fighty'? Brilliant.

Blimy Redmoomin you posted how you were doing before I posted how are you doing iyswim As you can see my mnetting skills are underdeveloped.

Hi gloup. How are you doing today? If people won't do things to spend time with you other than drinking then they are not true friends. Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh it's not meant to be. I have found my friends very supportive in general.

Redmoomin, I don't know if you have read the exchange that algee and I had yesterday, where we both admitted the risk of not telling the truth to people on here. It is crazy how this disease can make us think, and at the end of the day, I'd only have found a new way of fooling myself. This thread is really helping me keep sober, and face up to many ugly aspects of my drinking.

You are such an important poster on this thread, and have been around for algee and me during the late afternoon when we've been struggling. Well I know I really appreciate your support and your postivie posts about AA.

I don't go regularly, but you've encouraged me out of my comfort zone a few times. Thanks, and keep on coming back.

Thanks forthe - I am trying to drag myself out of the self-pity I am wallowing in. Yes, I drank, it's over. Time to get over it!

Well I may be crap at posting but I'm here and rooting for you all (and me)

Moomin, just keep posting.. oops phone ringing, back soon

Thank you so much venus. You've done the impossible and put a smile on my face. Onwards and upwards! MIFLAW - come and give my alky arse a good kicking if you can! No more self-pity. I am picking myself up and dusting myself down.

yeah I need miflaw to kick me in the arse too

thankyou everyone

Trinity, stop beating yourself up. Are you in touch with WAY? I know people on there and they are bloody lovely.

Moomin, what was your relationship with dh like before he was dh? Did you drink together? has your drinking pattern changed since you've been married, while his has stayed the same?

When I was drinking heavily I was secretly seething everytime my non-alcoholic dp decided to cut back and have a few days without drinking. I resented that he could do it, and it made me feel exposed in my drinking because I knew I couldn't match his sobriety.

Relationships and alcohol are always a complex mix.

I have some WAY info but ....

Trinity, If he kicks you too hard, you might sick up your breakfast. I'd leave it an hour to settle before you get kicked . That was supposed to be funny?

What's next Trin? Are you washed and dressed? And the girls? You have all the ingredients to make a shepherds pie. Are you up to that? You can make it this morning and have it all ready to put in the oven for tea.

Trinity and Redmoomin I have lost count of the number of times I have fallen/leapt off the wagon (Hate the wagon thing) I really empathise with how you are feeling. You just need to get your Mojo back. The world will look like a better place once your head clears properly. What have you got planned for this afternoon?

venus - we were drinking buddies! And now that I can't do that anymore our marriage is tricky. He drinks too much but is not an alky. I am not going to think about it too much at the moment - I need to concentrate on me and being sober, one day at a time! Once I have some sobriety behind me (again) I will consider my marriage I think. I love him but not sure if it's enough.

Hi trinity, did you eat your breakfast?

MIFLAW - it would be lovely to hear from you!

I would seriously advise you to join Way and also to meet them. I would cat you with a longer tale or two if you were cat-enabled. I have been to a couple of their barbecues/meets and they are fantastic because (because?) they all understand each other in a way that I don't/can't fit in. I urge you to join and get chatting there. I urge you. F.

Trinity, I think you can feel when a group is the right one for you, and also when is the right time for you. Trust your intuition.

And feel free to tell me to piss off with all my 'helpful' instructions.

I hate the 'wagon' thing too. I also don't like the AA terminology on this one - it's called a 'slip'. To me a 'slip' just sounds too gentle and does not come close to describing the horror of drinking again.