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OW got pregnant...

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drmac · 27/07/2010 22:24

my husband had an affair with a good friend of mine. She got pregnant and had a son.

We are trying to work through this and I am having another baby - due in November.

I'd just like to hear from other people who've maybe been through this.

How are things between you now? Do you think you'll ever completely get over it?

thanks

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ValiumSingleton · 28/07/2010 20:28

sixesandsevens, Illegitimate is not an adjective I like to see next to child. It is not a term that even has any legal basis anymore. Would you mind not using it?

I wasn't married when I had my children. I don't feel that they require an adjective based on my marital status.

sixesandsevens · 28/07/2010 20:29

sorry VS - didn't realise it was offensive,

I have a child whose father isn't married to me and doesn't live with me so am definitely not saying it in a derogatory way - wasn't sure how else to put it, but sorry if it caused offence.

Wanttofly · 28/07/2010 20:39

at all of this.

Please remenber she is pg right now, some of the comments are harsh.

What has your husband done to make you feel happy in your marrage to have another child with?

How do you know it was the first time he has done this and how did you find out?

do you want a relationship with the OW child?

I think its too soon to get over it at all. You are still angry and have to blame someone and its her or your husband. Would it be different if you did not know the OW or if she did not have a child?

Why is it not your husbands fault?

To forgive him is to forgive the whole thing including OW and their child.

Thats why your not over it and are still hurting. And you will be for a long time imo.

create · 28/07/2010 20:41

"She made her bed and now she can wallow in it as a single parent. she chose to be irresponsible about protection. She then chose to keep the child when my husband made it clear he could not support her. She has made these choices so should have thought about how they affect her now."

Wow, how does that view sit with "the church"?

Wordweaver · 28/07/2010 20:42

Drmac, you have made a choice to work at your marriage and I totally respect that decision.

But to work through this together in a healthy way is what will help you to survive it as a family.

To survive it as a family, you have to work through it AS a family. I.e. both you and your dh together. Not just you alone.

Right now, your husband?s actions do not seem to be in the interests of your family. From what you have said, his actions seem to be only in his own interests.

Just look at how it sounds. You?ve told us yourself:

You are looking at the photos because he can?t bear to yet.
You have been acting as a go-between.
He has had no contact with his own child.
He?d prefer to just forget about the child completely.

These aren't things that make the situation easier to cope with for you - they are things that make it easier to cope with for him.

You have chosen to stay with a man who had an extra-marital affair and got someone pregnant. What he did was out of your control, but staying with him is your CHOICE. I do completely respect that choice.

You have chosen that because the good parts of your life together are worth fighting for, worth saving, right?

The thing is, you can?t just cherry-pick the good bits of it and not have the rest as well.

After everything you have had to cope with, you have every right to have your time of saying ?if only? and wishing things could be different. But that?s not living or moving forward.

At some point, having made the choice to be with him, you have to look around you at the altered landscape of your relationship and say ?This is how it IS, like it or not. This is what we have to deal with ? the good and the bad.?

If he's leaving you to deal with a massively difficult part of it, that's not you two working as a team.

Your love and care for him is clear and obvious, but you must also love and care for yourself.

Your family can come through this but surely only by pulling together?

You said:

?She obviously feels that we should all just act amicable for the child's sake but it's not that easy really.?

No, it?s not easy. That doesn?t mean it?s not worth it.

You asked if your anger towards her will go eventually. I don?t think it will magically fade away, no. I think you will have to work through it, if you want to, and that will be part of seeing a counsellor, as has been suggested. It?ll be hard work and it will take time, but I do think it is perfectly possible for your family to survive this.

But in all likelihood you will have to find a way to accept that it?s not going to be the same as it was ? it?ll be something new.

AnyFucker · 28/07/2010 20:47

I am, for once, totally speechless

Unlikelyamazonian · 28/07/2010 20:48

drmac you sound a real control freak. And don't adress your dc's half-sibling as 'the child'. Its bloody offensive.

Ewe · 28/07/2010 20:51

Oh my, this is one of THE most depressing threads I have read on here. OP, I am so sorry that you don't value yourself enough to distance yourself from this manipulative man.

If AF is speechless you know things aren't good!

drmac · 28/07/2010 20:52

Wanttofly:

He has promised and assured this is the first time. And the last. I have to believe him. I honestly do think she was the first.

I found out when she confided in a mutual friend when she was 5 months pg.

I do want a relationship with the child yes. He is my dd's half brother and part of our family. But i just wish she wasn't for obvious reasons. She feels that the boy should not be subjected to this type of tension so is stating that until my H can be civil to her he is not seeing the child.

I just don't think things can be 'ok' between her and us. we have different parenting styles and we will clash over them. It's just hard not to hate her.

I have hated him at times but i've let go and made he step of forgiveness. it's hard t explain how i can feel this towards him really. I see your point about forgiving the whole thing but I'm contradicting myself over it i guess

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AnyFucker · 28/07/2010 20:55

ewe, seriously I cannot form one sentence in my mind that is not an abusive one

and that would be a waste of energy, so best to remain as I am...speechless

midnightexpress · 28/07/2010 20:56

Reading this with a growing sense of disbelief - he didn't even tell you - he left it for a mutual acquaintance to let you know??? He really needs to face up to what he's done.

saintlydamemrsturnip · 28/07/2010 20:59

I can see her point - your dh had a child with her so he should be capable of being civil to her. It's not your role to be, but yes of course your dh should be. It sounds as if he is blaming her though which is frankly ludicrous.

Unlikelyamazonian · 28/07/2010 20:59

What faith are you op? Do share.

drmac · 28/07/2010 21:02

wordweaver - thank you for taking the time to reply so in depth.

You are right of course. I need to look at how things are going to be different now instead of mourning the past or the life i thought we would have.

I am not a control freak - i guess it's easy to judge these things from the outside though isn't it. I had no control over what he did but by being involved now i can have a say over how things might be. that's not being controlling imo. that's being active in my life.

i do call the baby the child. its not meant in spite.

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AnyFucker · 28/07/2010 21:05

I am wondering what it would actually take for OP to "give up on her marriage", tbh

When LoverBoy realises he has literally been given a get-out-of-jail-free card and behave-any-fucking-way-you-like-and-I-will-clean-up-your-messes pass....he is going to be like a dog with two dicks

He promises this is the first and last ? Yes, he's really demonstrating that with his mature and concerned attitude, ain't he

I am sorry to say, OP, sacrificing your self-respect at the altar of this man's ego will bring you nothing but grief in the future

drmac · 28/07/2010 21:06

I am a Christian although it's not relevant imo. Yes forgiveness is a huge part of my faith which is why i may be struggling with my anger towards her.

He did not tell me no, who would want to destroy someones life like that - of course he was reluctant.

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drmac · 28/07/2010 21:08

So what should i do af?

how would you make your dh deal with this - just out of interest.

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AnyFucker · 28/07/2010 21:09

< slams door on way out >

SassySusan · 28/07/2010 21:09

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Unlikelyamazonian · 28/07/2010 21:10

does the child have a name? I mean, do you call him 'the child' in real life?

AnyFucker · 28/07/2010 21:11

You don't really want to know, seriously

We are not on the same planet, never mind the same wavelength

I wish you luck, really I do

BrightLightBrightLight · 28/07/2010 21:11

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midnightexpress · 28/07/2010 21:11

Surely it would have come out at some point? Was he hoping it would all just go away (which tbh, sounds like how he's acting at the moment, as if by just ignoring his baby and letting you deal with it all, it will just somehow magically disappear). You say he was reluctant to destroy your life, but it doesn't really sound as if he was thinking about you terribly much in any of this - how is he helping you to rebuild your life by allowing you to be the go-between in all of this? He sounds dreadfully selfish.

LadyintheRadiator · 28/07/2010 21:11

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sixesandsevens · 28/07/2010 21:11

I wish you luck getting through this, but I would really suggest that you ask your DH to take the lead role in sorting out finance, access and all other matters relating to his child with the OW.

I don't think that it will help you or him in the long run if you take responsibility for resolving the mess that he has got you into.

If he decides to have nothing to do with his child with OW, then that is his decision. It is a decision that he must take responsibility for, and to deal with it now and later when it may or may not cause problems.

I'm not sure why you think it helps matters if you don't let him take responsibility for the mess he's created?

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