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Is it possible to have affair but stay happily married/attached? Pls be honest.

528 replies

MabelMay · 14/07/2010 15:02

Hello All

I really need your honesty and experiences/opinions.
Without going into too much detail as I do wish to remain as anonymous as possible obviously, I have recently found myself falling for someone other than my DP. We have had our problems in the past, DP and I, but we have two lovely little kids together and I've never really been distracted by another man since being with him (8 years). Until now. Recently, after some months of feeling unbelievably attracted to this person, I've found out he feels exactly the same. I feel like I'm on the precipice of something. I have such strong feelings for this guy and have not felt this happy in years. I really want it to happen and yet I know you'll all think me stupid/selfish/naive/etc. But please tell me: Have any of you ever managed to have a brief fling/affair without it destroying your other relationship? Or know of anyone who has? Is it crazy to even think this can happen? I say brief because he is leaving the country for good at the end of the year... am I mad?

OP posts:
ilovemyteddy · 16/07/2010 12:25

TDiddy - no my previous suffix wasn't Obama. I have name-changed but I am usually a lurker rather than a poster

TDiddy · 16/07/2010 12:56

Okay. We have more than one "ilove_xxxxx* then.

ilovemyteddy · 16/07/2010 13:00

Oh hell! I name-changed partly because my last name was similar to another poster's. You would think with all the millions of possible word and name combinations in the world I could have come up with something more original

TDiddy · 16/07/2010 13:15

I think that it is sufficiently diff: "ilovemydognandmrobabma" or similar

Coolfonz · 16/07/2010 14:16

MabelMay - You need to speak to your existing fella/DP/whatever. Tell him not to say that shit to you about being uncertain (what a fucking tosser) again or you are off.

If he says it again, leave him and go and bone the other guy for a bit...

Wtf are you doing putting up with a man who says that shit to you after 2 kids and all that time? I don't get it, he sounds like a whining . Imo.

Coolfonz · 16/07/2010 14:18

"whining * * "

Coolfonz · 16/07/2010 14:18

oh bollocks... "whining cnut" i mean

MabelMay · 16/07/2010 14:44

coolfonz - i know it makes DP sound terrible. And it's done a huge amount of damage I can see now, over the years, as each time it happens I lose the will to fight back and to have to be the emotionally strong one. A little bit of my love for him has been worn away with each outburst.

However, I know that these outbursts of DP's come from a deeply insecure place. I understand this partly because I have a very good friend who does/did the same to her long-term DP and she has tried to explain it to me, without excusing it.

This, of course, does not make it any better. My DP will sometimes try to make a joke out of it afterwards, treat it lightly and is always apologetic. However, I know it is emotional abuse because that's how I feel afterwards - abused. And as I've talked about it on here and with a friend I've come to see just how much anger and resentment has built up inside me over the years about it. Every time it's happened, I've had to be the one to point out all the reasons we are good together, why we're committed, why i would never leave him (that was then....).
But the last time it happened I started to feel numb. Like it wasn't hurting any more, it was just making me very angry.

That's probably got a lot to do with why I stopped feeling emotionally close enough to my DP to want to have sex with him (altho' we still did but I didn't feel the same about it), which in turn probably made me start to look outwards a bit more....

This is not an excuse for the way I'm feeling towards OM - there are other factors of course - and it's not an excuse for having an affair. I'm just painting a picture I guess.

Now it's whether I care enough about DP and our relationship to fix it. I do. I just wonder if things will actually change. I always think they will. We have a great 5 months - and then back it comes... "DP: We shouldn't be together because you don't make me feel good etc etc..."

OP posts:
Lucy85 · 16/07/2010 15:00

MabelMay, Please tell me that since mine and others' posts on here you have decided not to go ahead?
Please?
You will end up with nothing good. You are risking everything. You risk being judged by all who know you, including your children.
You will break his heart.
You cannot completely isolate areas of your life, because you are one person with one brain.
Please do not do it.

Coolfonz · 16/07/2010 15:29

"We shouldn't be together because you don't make me feel good"

Well he sounds like a prick to me.

"Deeply insecure"? Aww diddums...were Mummy and Daddy not perfect awww...

MabelMay · 16/07/2010 15:58

coolfonz - i know. it's prickish behaviour. it's unforgivable. but he is also very loving and respectable and generous etc etc the REST of the time. plus i know he'd never have an affair!

lucy85 - i am definitely not feeling as gung-ho as i was about it a few days ago. i appreciate your warnings i really do.
i don't think i'll do it.
i'm at least going to wait 'til DP gets back to have a talk with him.

OP posts:
MabelMay · 16/07/2010 15:59

i meant "respectful" not "respectable"!

OP posts:
fabatforty · 16/07/2010 16:03

Why don't you follow your emotions with regard to your long term partner - ie: he does not make you feel good about yourself and you feel emotionally abused. That alone is enough to give you a perfectly good reason to change the status of your relationship, not necessarily for ever, but until you feel more comfortable in whatever situation is going to work for you. You could have a temporary separation for instance, which would give you both space to think about what you want.

One of the reasons you have a big crush on someone else is probably because your partner is actually not making you feel that great.

People have crushes all the time, it is entirely normal. Do not take to much notice of the melodramatic "you will ruin your whole life if you even think about another man" brigade who no doubt would like to see you in a ducking stool with a banner around your head stating "adulteress".

How absurdly medieval, and rather hypocritical given that we now have a soaring divorce rate which is evidence enough that many people find it very difficult to stick to their marrige vows.

Do all the moral morality brigade who believe you have to hang onto marriage for grim death, even if you don't even like him, really imagine that by closing off every possible other door the OP and her husband are going to walk off into the sunset and live happily ever after?

The affair (whether acted upon or not) is in actual fact a symptom rather than a cause. Whether you have it or not, it sounds to me as though there is an awful lot that needs to be "fixed" in your current relationship and the question is, how much do you really want to fix it if you feel as though you are being emotionally abused? Really think it would be helpful to talk though all this with a sympathetic third party who believe me will have heard it all before many, many times so WILL NOT JUDGE at all.

On

ilovemyteddy · 16/07/2010 16:10

Mabel it may be worth posting a new thread on here about the issues in your relationship with DP because you may get advice from other posters who have stayed away from a thread with the word 'affair' in the title.

With apologies for repeating myself, I really think that you need to concentrate on seeing whether your relationship with DP can be saved before you bring a third person into the mix; and I echo Lucy85s plea to you not to have an affair.

I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.

Oblomov · 16/07/2010 16:45

I would like to thank those who have answered my questions, esp wwifn, the effort of your detailed and beautiful posts. You have opened my eyes. truely. thank you very much.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 16/07/2010 17:06

Where did anyone say it was wrong to even look at another man, or that the OP should hang onto her relationship even if she doesn't like her DP? This stuff seems to be in your head, Fabatforty - and not on this thread.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 16/07/2010 17:07

Oblomov you are welcome - and thanks

AnyFucker · 16/07/2010 17:52

FabAtForty...your posts seem to intellectualise about really nothing at all

Your repeated judgement about "melodramatic, mediaeval, morality-brigade, monogamist fundamentals" is looking a bit contrived, tbh

the allitration rolls off the tongue quite nicely, though

AnyFucker · 16/07/2010 17:52

alliteration

celticfairy101 · 16/07/2010 18:02

A moment of madness, a life time of regrets.

Remember this phrase.

celticfairy101 · 16/07/2010 19:33

akems

Your post was the most poignant. Claps hands at this as well. Especially the kissing of your children bit. My children don't like their father to kiss them. They told me that those lips kiss her.

fruitloafrocks · 16/07/2010 20:56

I spent 9 years with a man that went through these cycles of doubt, each time he had one of these breakdowns he broke my heart a little more.

I got to the stage where even though I still loved him and I believed he loved me I couldn't go through it again.

When I told him that I'd had enough he became manipulative, cruel and violent.

It still shocks me how this escalated as I never, ever thought he was capable of such disgusting behaviour - at the time though I felt terrible and that I deserved and had caused it.

Looking back I realise the 'cycles' of doubt we're actually just more subtle ways of manipulating and controlling my behaviour/life - it got less suble when I said enough is enough.

I guess what I'm saying is be careful. Your DP sounds to me like he is controlling you with these cycles..... quite possible/probable this could be my past experiences colouring my view though...

For what it's worth I met an amazing man, fell in love and have never been made to feel anything but wonderful by him with 2 DC's to show for it.

sincitylover · 16/07/2010 22:20

fgs why would children even think this - unless they had been primed by an adult.

This is bizarre tbh imvho

celticfairy101 · 17/07/2010 07:54

@sincitylover,

I never even thought about it until they mentioned it. The two eldest are teenagers.

akhems · 17/07/2010 09:46

Thank you celticfairy but I can't take credit for it.

LeQueen wrote it some time ago and it hit home with me so I saved it.. just reposted it here. I hope she doesn't mind