Archers thread #195: Run, Amber, run! Discuss The Archers here.

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Emma spoke sense to George and Amber tonight. Goodness only knows where this storyline is going. I can't see George being Father of the Year. Oh dear.

Over to you!

Ruairi wouldn't have been speaking German all the time as a child, would he? Presumably his mother spoke to him in English, and certainly he's never had the slightest trace of a German accent. I do have vague memories of him having an Irish accent when he was very young, however.

Why does being with Paul make him not-decent?

Well, we did all want Ruairi to come back into the story as a main character.

R did have an Irish accent when he first appeared as a child.

Why does being with Paul make him not-decent?

He stopped being a decent character as a result of the conduct of two women - Alice and Julianne. His relationship with Paul won't redeem him because Ruiari is a much stronger character (and not in a positive way) than Paul.

@OrphanBlankly , he's working at the vet's practice where his mother works.

A black man who’s managed to qualify and work as a vet nurse, with a steady job and good relationships with colleagues and housemates - in Borsetshire?
This reads as if you think it is remarkable that a black man has managed to achieve it, and that your expectations would be much lower.

How to become a vet nurse - PDSA

It couldn't possibly be Ruairi's fault that he's not a decent person, could it. It had to be a woman's fault.

Alice's or Julianne's conduct did not make him a gigolo.

Alice and Rex, after Alice and Toby... we have done going from one brother to another with the Grundys. I know there's a limit to the number of eligible men in Ambridge, but there are a load of silents living in the village, and there's always Borchester or even Felpersham, and they don't have to work with just the same families. (Mind you, last time she found someone from outside, he was an alcoholic, so...)

@EBearhug , after Alice and Toby When was that?

I thought the same @OrphanBlankly , Amber has really pushed the Marky theory and seemed so panicky when George was starting to have flashbacks, I was convinced she knew the truth. They really over egged all the red herrings as some of them didn't even make any sense!

Ah, no, I'm confusing Alice and Pip. As you were.

Still, Rex deserves better.

I called it with Alice and Rex ages ago. Poor Rex, save yourself!

Alice and Rex, after Alice and Toby... we have done going from one brother to another with the Grundys.
It was Pip but it was Rex who was sweet on Pip (his taste in women!) but she procreated with his brother before she became TWFL overnight.

Kate and Toby have some 'history.

i have several Irish friends (mostly gay men - for reasons - who all moved to Germany as very young men as soon as they could in the early 80s) and all bar one has dark hair. The other has blond hair.

I AM FURIOUS. That was... meh. Except for Brian putting R in his place at the end (I hugely enjoyed that)

but now, of course: none of the Home Farm crew have ANY leg to stand on if this carries on with Brian taking the blame, for criticising Emma for taking so long to grass on her son.

Alice and REX? I'd be quite up for that, tbh.

nope. I most certainly did not.

@Brefugee but now, of course: none of the Home Farm crew have ANY leg to stand on if this carries on with Brian taking the blame, for criticising Emma for taking so long to grass on her son

Well, as long as they don't find out about it they'll be able to continue exhibiting their superiority.

well I'm guessing that the SW are now going to try to find a way for George to cock-up the recording (maybe Amber will find it? maybe - better - Emma??)

And then there will be a problem because Brian will "fair cop, guv'nor" and R will be all "but no, it was me" (and maybe the others will "i am Sparticus" it too, because at this stage the SW are writing bad fan fiction)

So there may now be room - praise be - for someone to say "oi, posh nobs, you're just as bad as the serfs so get off your high horses". And for Brine to have a heart attack so that Collingwood can retire with a shred of dignity intact.

ETA: Bitter? MOI?

Bono, Martha Kearney, Gloria Hunniford, what's her name off Woman's Hour, Saoirse Ronan, Niamh Cusack, Liam Neeson...

Most of the Irish people I know have 'mousy' (or blonde) hair.

George will probably take the recording to the bizzies and will frame himself in the process.

Amber may have feared it was Brad? Continuing Fallon’s theme of people covering for the wrong people.

Ruarhi’s guilt is the sort of secret that could be buried for years and years and only come out further down the line. That would be very satisfying as a slow-burn SL.

Ha! Nope. I certainly don’t have low expectations of all the men in my family - I do have low expectations of Ambridge scriptwriters, so I’m pretty amazed that Paul is even allowed to exist.

He certainly looks a far better prospect as a partner than Ruairi.

He exists because as a gay black character he ticks the 'diversity' checkboxes.

I am ok with gay and ethnic minority characters but not when I feel that it is to tick 'diversity' checkboxes.

As for achievements for black men, we have black male professors, newsreaders and athletes etc. We have had a black Chancellor of the Exchequer, Foreign Secretary, Secretary of State for Education, Home Secretary, Deputy Prime Minister etc.
Being a vet nurse in the same practice as his mother isn't quite in the same league.

i am absolutely ROFL at the idea that these, or any subsequent SW are going to run with that. 20 years ago? yep. now? hahahahahaha

Jolene has to be brassy blond. Fallon has brown hat though (like Jolene but without the dye😄)

Siobhan always had long red/auburn hair.