🧦 Archers thread #133: Woolley socks it to them! Discuss The Archers and its Woolley thinking and plotting here.

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Thank you, @PseudoBadger, for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed. We don't all agree on all points and most of us are posting tongue in cheek a lot of the time, so don't worry about revealing that you would love to take part in the Mysteries, or other unusual views.

Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/4197199--The-Archers-spoilers-thread-6-Cant-wait-for-7-02pm-Join-us-here, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

For newer listeners, lurkers or those who just have no idea what we're talking about, @DadDadDad has created this useful thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3557323-For-Archers-fans-a-guide-to-acronyms-on-the-long-running-discussion-threads-and-any-other-meta-thread-questions-you-may-have - BOOP point for him! (See thread for explanation.)

Thanks to @ButtonSister and @BorsetshireBanality for title suggestions. I went with their idea in the interests of keeping the title fairly short.

@LillianGish and @FoxgloveSummers made cracking but longer suggestions, which (mashed up) will do a great job of kicking off our new thread.

Evictions (Tom and Tash), depictions (Bridge Farm Christmas card), conniptions (entire cast and crew of the Mysteries), convictions (Philip) and addictions (Alice) - what are our predictions for 2022 in Ambridge? All sure to make this the Best Ambridge Christmas Evah!

This thread should take us through to early January unless something very exciting happens (ha ha, fat chance). My predictions: this is a bit left field, but I wonder if Peggy will offer to buy the shop and flat so Tom and Gnasher (great coinage, whose was it?) can stay put. I don't believe Hazel is sincere about wanting to live in/regularly visit Ambridge. She's always been utterly two-faced and rotten to the core, why would she change now?

The Mysteries will, of course be a triumph and briefly borrowing the🔮 (sorry, Bore!) I expect we are going to hear them at some point over the New Year period.

Over to you!

Here Jangly
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0012rj0

I don't think it's quite right though. The 1st shepherd was definitely Leonard actor, not Jazzer as it states.
(you might have to google some of the actors' names to find out who they are in TA)

This might help: (Photos!)

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0bcmydw/p0bcn4bm

In addition to the actor cast list in the Sounds schedule.

Not loving Lilian’s silly accent …

Tim Bentinck was a terrific Herod.
Coventry Carol was lovely [sniffle]

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0012rj0

1st Angel …. Sunny Ormonde = Lilian
2nd Angel …. Katie Redford = Lily
God …. Carole Boyd = Lynda
Isaiah …. Timothy Bentinck = David
Mary …. Molly Pipe = Mia
Joseph …. Nick Barber = Rex
Herod …. Timothy Bentinck = David
Messenger …. Sunny Ormonde = Lilian
1st Shepherd …. Ryan Kelly = Jazzer
2nd Shepherd …. Trevor Harrison = Eddie
3rd Shepherd …. Katie Redford = Lily
1st King … Charlotte Martin = Susan
2nd King …. Ryan Kelly = Jazzer
3rd King …. Katie Redford = Lily
1st Soldier …. Charlotte Martin = Susan
2nd Soldier …. Trevor Harrison = Eddie
Simeon …. Carole Boyd = Lynda

Yes, but 1st shepherd wasn't Jazzer. I'm sure it was Leonard (Paul Copley?)

I am not listening/haven't listened, so all I can do is provide what the BBC has claimed, plus the characters in TA for each.

(I hadn't seen your post; I was answering the last post on the previous page.)

Thank you!
Soosan and Eddie were fab at slaughtering innocents! And yes Tim bentink, I thought they'd sneaked in Brian Blessed as a surprise guest for a few minutes!

I hadn't realise it was such a limited cast in the end, that was what was mainly confusing me.

Oh and I heard Lily as Usha, IYSWIM

I’m not going to listen to the Mysteries on the grounds that it’s just encouraging them to do something next year and make December’s episodes torture.

Who mentioned llamas?

Why are we getting so much Usha? I think she's worse than Pip.

Nobody could be worse than Pip, @KimikosNightmare

@KimikosNightmare

Who mentioned llamas?

Why are we getting so much Usha? I think she's worse than Pip.

Well, either Salieri is an unhappy llama now, or Mia weighs 50lb or less. He wasn't bred to be a pack-llama and his back wouldn't at all like him being ridden.

I think I’ll save the mysteries for a long, boring train journey.

Just listening to the Mysteries now. Far better than I expected. Clearly seen where all the energies of Editor, scriptwriters, actors etc have gone in the last few months. Explains a lot about the lacklustre regular episodes.

Well, three of them.

Adapted by Nick Warburton
Director …. Kim Greengrass
Executive Editor …. Jeremy Howe

According to my extensive research a llama can carry a human of up to about 5 st 10 lb.
Mere is a mere slip of a girl so it possible

i'm imagining her as about 4 ft 10 and very slight

@WhoppingBigBackside

According to my extensive research a llama can carry a human of up to about 5 st 10 lb. Mere is a mere slip of a girl so it possible

I am fairly sure that would apply to a llama bred for and then trained to the saddle. I would bet that Salieri is neither of those things.

Maybe my research wasn't quite that extensive Asking

What happens to the wool these days?

I'd like a pet llama. I wanted a family of camels but I didn't have the space

@JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon

Anyone else think Usha has had a personality transplant? She sounded uncharacteristically nasty in the leaving scene and a bit when she came back and was gloating about the pies and keeping her return a secret.

Utterly sick of the mystery plays. Why everyone hasn't told Lynda to do one is the biggest mystery of all, bit I had wondered who was going to be around to watch given how many are involved.

I don’t understand why she insisted on Alan keeping her return a secret just so she could enjoy a quiet Christmas. Who did she think was going to beat a path to her door once they heard she was back? She seems to be an irrelevance really and no-one ever mentions her now unless it’s in passing reference to a legal matter.

Ruth is the only person who might have visited but she’s found a new best friend in Stella..

She's the village legal bod, so she may get asked a lot of things by different people

Personality transplants are quite common in Ambridge

What is her area of specialism? I thought it was something to do with property law but in recent years recall she had a (non speaking) role as Freddie’s legal representative when he was in court for dealing drugs, advised Will when he faced a battle with Nic’s mum over Poppy…the list goes on.

Are we supposed to believe she knows something about all aspects of the law?

I thought it was Annabelle Schrivener who was the property law expert?