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❓ Archers thread #126: It’s a mystery why we’re all still listening.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/03/2021 19:59

Thank you, @PseudoBadger, for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads.

Archers All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed. We don't all agree on all points and most of us are posting tongue in cheek a lot of the time, so don't worry about revealing that you’d love to be on the Parish Council, or other unusual views. Grin

Archers Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/4197199--The-Archers-spoilers-thread-6-Cant-wait-for-7-02pm-Join-us-here, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

Archers For newer listeners, lurkers or those who just have no idea what we're talking about, @DadDadDad has created this useful thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3557323-For-Archers-fans-a-guide-to-acronyms-on-the-long-running-discussion-threads-and-any-other-meta-thread-questions-you-may-have - BOOP point for him! (See thread for explanation.)

Thanks to @LillianGish and @Taswama for thread title ideas, but I felt most in sympathy with @R4's suggestion. Is it me, or is the programme in the doldrums at the moment?

Haven't heard the 31/3 episode yet. Perhaps it's a gem. Hmm

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scrappydappydoo · 26/04/2021 21:29

Delurking...
Good for Ben but I’m really pissed off with David & Ruth’s reaction. They are such crap parents. Most parents would be delighted their child was finding focus and finding a worthwhile career. If I were them I would be questioning themselves about why Ben hadn’t discussed it with them before.
Hoping the time capsule story gets buried (sorry not sorry)
Feel like things are building up to a spectacular christening showdown

Nith · 26/04/2021 22:55

Mystic Nith! I said it on 16th March:

I wondered whether all the stuff about the wonderful nurse was going to lead Ben to decide to become one.

JanFebAnyMonth · 26/04/2021 23:03

Well done Nith!

echt · 27/04/2021 01:36

David and Ruth's reaction was so underwhelming. Cue later handwringing on their part about a son working off the farm/outside the business. And no, he won't be helping out while following a nursing course, he won't have the time.

Shouldn't have been left in the cereal cupboard for so long.

StillDumDeDumming · 27/04/2021 06:52

I haven't listened yet. My friend recently qualified as a midwife. It was very competitive to get on the course. She had a first class degree and a distinction at masters. She still had to get a level biology I think it was. And of course work experience to get in. She's a brilliant midwife though and doing all sorts of great work. I take it he's off to volunteer in a nursing setting?

BeardieWeirdie · 27/04/2021 07:04

Absolutely agree that the Dopeys were awful trying to put Ben off. Volunteering at The Laurels to clean up sick and wee at The Laurels, and getting a care job, would be best for his application.

CaptainMyCaptain · 27/04/2021 07:43

It doesn't really matter whether it's a big deal or a miniscule deal- Lillian should have dropped it and she had no right to give the photo away.

That's partly what I meant. Why is she making an issue of a photo of a child? In any case, having seen that it upsets him (why?) she should have let it drop. It makes no sense at all.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/04/2021 07:44

I don't know. They were very Dopeyish, especially David, but I think most parents would be taken by surprise by this sudden change in direction and would want to be sure their offspring had really thought it through.

I had a wobble during my first year at university and thought briefly about giving it up to train as a midwife. It would have been a big mistake for me, as I'm not the right sort of person for that work. If I'd got as far as talking to my parents about it, I think they'd have had conniptions, so David and Ruth come out well by comparison.

Once it became clear that Ben had indeed given it a good deal of thought, they softened up a lot, although I felt I could almost hear David willing himself not to say 'But you're a boy!'

Wouldn't Ben's extensive experience with livestock on the farm count as relevant, to some extent? He's assisted with beekeeping, lambing, vaccinating etc, where he's had to learn to look out for early signs of illness and reassure difficult patients; he's shown he can do a responsible job involving unsocial hours and hard physical work; he's trained a sheepdog, showing persistence.

I used to work in a university and once volunteered to help out on graduation day. The afternoon ceremony was all Nursing graduates from several different courses (the School of Nursing is enormous) - General Adult, Children, Mental Health, possibly some other specialisms I've forgotten. It was glorious. Every course except Mental Health had 90%+ female students. I would guess a lot of them were the first in their families to go to university. Huge percentage of BAME students too. The pride in the air was almost palpable.

PS - Justin and the time capsule was very odd. I wonder if the pen was actually an industrial espionage device which he'd used to record some clandestine meeting. I will go with this theory as the alternative is even more of a stretch.

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Madcats · 27/04/2021 08:59

Praises be; 26 April 2031 is a Saturday! That time capsule must have been vast with all that tat in it. Will the Friday and Sunday episodes be back by then, I wonder?

Geography and Politics did seem a rather daft choice of degree (look how Phoebe made such good use of her PPE). It is good to see Ben embark on a career that will take him outside the village.

I suppose there is absolutely no chance of anyone other than Pip taking over Brookfield. How depressing.

StillDumDeDumming · 27/04/2021 09:10

Well that's interesting. It seems to get on a midwifery course you need a science a level (which sometimes includes a social science), but you don't need science for an adult nursing course. So this is because there's more demand for nurses maybe? Or more supervision?

Roysnewshirt · 27/04/2021 09:13

Why try and make Justin look like a fool digging in the wrong place for the time capsule? Why have him dig at all? I’m just not sure he would care enough about the photograph to do that.

SWs definitely running out of ideas for Lilian and Justin. In fact, neither actually need to be central to any SLs at the moment, they could just tick along drinking G+Ts in the background.

ILoveShula · 27/04/2021 15:18

The entry requirements are high for midwifery because a lot of people apply.

IMO David and Ruth would almost certainly have thought 'But you're a boy.'

nettie434 · 27/04/2021 18:52

Very impressive predicting Nith! The difference between entry requirements for nursing and midwifery are because there are two routes to becoming a midwife. You can become a registered nurse and then take another 18 months to qualify as a midwife or you can do a 3 year direct entry course for midwifery alone. Many of the direct entry applicants will have a degree already. There are fewer places on those courses so entry is competitive, as IloveShula said.

I am really pleased Ben wants to become a nurse. Realistically he would not get a look in at Brookfield with Pip around so he needs a career of his own.

I loved the way Ruari spoke to Justin. Everyone else is far too obsequious.

nettie434 · 27/04/2021 18:55

Bother. Posted before I checked StillDumDeDumming's name re comments on competitive entry for midwifery.

ILoveShula · 27/04/2021 19:25

I think at one time the entry requirements for a physiotherapy course were almost as high as those for medicine.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/04/2021 19:37

If Elizabeth wants to let some of the Estate land, she needs the consent of Freddie's trustees; and if the owner of the land is opposed, she ought not to get it from them.

theThreeofWeevils · 27/04/2021 20:15

Elizabeth really is awful, isn't she? Freddie not wanting pigs makes the idea suddenly not so unattractive to her; she doesn't like being at odds with her darling festering Lily; and she wants to come over as all nice and femimine and persuadeable to her squeeze (and have the moral high ground over her brother, to boot). Spewk.

But David has gone about things the wrong way: having Fairbrothers on your land is a worse infestation than lovely badgers. Break out the shotgun. Mind you, since he didn't when his precious Pipsqueak was up-duffed, I fear he no longer has one.

Roysnewshirt · 27/04/2021 20:57

We knew that comedy would be waiting in the wings after all the high drama with Alice! So what could be better than duping an unsuspecting Lee into a bit of nude modelling on a Bank Holiday Monday...Hmm

ILoveShula · 27/04/2021 21:15

Will the wasps return?

theThreeofWeevils · 27/04/2021 21:29

So what could be better than duping an unsuspecting Lee into a bit of nude modelling on a Bank Holiday Monday
Him javing his spawn with him for the weekend. It could all go a bit Leviticus (18:7).
I wish they wouldn't try and do funny: they are very bad at it. And, like Jolene leching at a naked Burns, it wouldn't strike them as amusing at all were the sexes reversed. I hope.

Roysnewshirt · 27/04/2021 21:37

Worth noting how disparaging Elizabeth was about CMR today. Good to see that tide turning.

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/04/2021 21:51

I wonder if the Ambridge Cricket Club will be able to play any fixtures this year. What else is on the horizon? They should be. Our local league has been playing matches for the last two weeks.

but I think most parents would be taken by surprise by this sudden change in direction and would want to be sure their offspring had really thought it through. How would David and Ruth be able to do that, when they weren't bothering to listen to what he said? I was nearly shouting at them.

ILoveShula · 27/04/2021 22:09

Why could it not have been Pip deciding to be a nurse? Or any other career that would take her away from Ambridge for ever.

JanFebAnyMonth · 27/04/2021 23:29

We did suggest there should be more key workers in Ambridge

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/04/2021 07:39

I'd like Pip to have a Damascene conversion and go off to do missionary work in some extremely remote part of the world with endemic malaria, which would carry her off in very short order. Rosie can stay with Toby. Huge plus point would be that David and Ruth would be so mired in grief they might never speak again.

Totally agree about the life modelling deception. Good grief. Also, if I were Lee, I'd be going back to Helen and suggesting a re-think about moving opposite Joy. A neighbour like that would drive me to distraction.

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