💰 Archers thread #121: Brookfield digs for treasure, Alice & Philip try to bury the truth. Dish the dirt here if you dig The Archers. PS Send nudes.

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Thank you, @PseudoBadger, for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed. We don't all agree on all points and most of us are posting tongue in cheek a lot of the time, so don't worry about revealing that you long to hear Pip again, or other unusual views.

Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3853783--The-Archers-spoilers-thread-5-Cant-wait-for-7-02pm-Join-us-here, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

For newer listeners, lurkers or those who just have no idea what we're talking about, @DadDadDad has created this useful thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3557323-For-Archers-fans-a-guide-to-acronyms-on-the-long-running-discussion-threads-and-any-other-meta-thread-questions-you-may-have - BOOP point for him! (See thread for explanation.)

Thanks to @LillianGish and @PersephonePromotesEquanimity for the title suggestions.

Current events: as @Bailey0703 has astutely spotted, it's Anti-Slavery Day tomorrow - could this herald the beginning of the end of the horses storyline? I do hope so. Horrible stuff, but what a blow for Kirsty. They're laying on the dramatic irony with trowel at the moment.

What do we think will happen to Alice and Chris? I can't see this pregnancy going to term and ending well. I don't think the marriage will survive either, giving Brian a chance to revisit his classic line about having to treat this as Alice's starter marriage.

Will Elizabeth end up on a date with Vince Casey? That would put the cat among the pigeons at Lower Loxley.

Over to you ...

My friend from Donegal was quite certain about it, and I have a feeling the young actor's family had moved from Donegal to I-think-it-was Solihull. He was living local enough to the studios for it to be practical to employ him, anyway, not in Ireland.

AskingQuestions are you in fact the archivist?

@BeardieWeirdie

Incorrect names are intentionally used here, see also Meaned, JennyDarling, Chrisduffer, Frilly. The drawn out Ruuarrrrrrris are a piss take of Jenny characteristically trying so hard to appear cultured with her pronunciation of exotic spellings. I’m currently in possession of an eight-month-old and a five-year-old and may have had something in my eye listening to that.

I'm not talking about those instances @BeardieWeirdie & yes, thanks, I do already know this.

It's the many other posts just mangling the name, not due to any comic intentions, either totally misspelling it or using the Scottish pronunciation. It's meant to be Irish.

Just listened and sobbed. I have a memory at the time of Brian saying if he had to choose between JD and Rory that Rory would win which is why JD agreed to Rory coming to live with them.

I have long ago given up trying to get the correct spelling R's name into my head . All I can manage is to think of it as somewhat similar the English name Rory only with Irish spelling. I didn't know there was a difference between Irish and Scottish pronunciation until just now . It should be pronounced sort of Ru-ory, is that right?

And mis-spelling of R on this thread is often poking fun at ourselves for not being able to remember the spelling

LillianGish
AskingQuestions are you in fact the archivist?
Gawd no! Perish forfend.

There used to be a board on which Ruairi was known as The Unspellable One. Siobhán originally wanted it to be Ruairidh, but Brian simplified it at some point. My favourite variation (that I have seen, I mean) is Ruaidhrí, which I suspect of being the Old Irish original, but there was also somebody once spelling it Ruarghi in a despairing way...

It's the many other posts just mangling the name, not due to any comic intentions, either totally misspelling it or using the Scottish pronunciation

Does it really matter? It’s a difficult name to spell and this isn’t a class three spelling test. I am usually writing in haste and don’t always agonise over grammar and spelling as I might when writing in other correspondence. My first name is a bloody nightmare to spell and I don’t blame anyone for getting it wrong. My nana spelt it wrong for 30 years....

It does matter Roy. I often see Lynda written as Linda on here, and Lynda Snell just isn't a Linda. I sometimes see Jill written with a G, and she isn't a Gill. Similarly, I would not recognise Neale as Susan's DH or Leigh/Lea as Helen's fella.

AFAIK Ruairi is spelt like that. If you write Rory we know who you mean, but his name is Ruairi.

I think if it is your own name that gets misspelt often, it matters to you.

Its not surprising that the early German knowledge has been lost, without any kind of practice.

I admit I have been spelling Ruairi wrongly. It’s one of the names which plague me as an Engineering lecturer (ie lots of male students) in Scotland. There are at least three spellings of the Scottish version, with various combinations of silent letters. Also two pronunciations, some Scottish people use a “Roori” pronunciation. The Rory version is also common. Don’t get me started on all the variations of Alistair, at one point it seemed as though half the class was called a version of that. I had one female student with a very lovely Irish name who actually seemed uncertain about how it was pronounced, her family wasn’t Irish and the way they pronounced it wasn’t what Irish friends used.

Don't get me started on welsh names. Fortunately, the welsh ambridgians have names like Philip, Gavin, Pat and Natasha. There was Reece - ychafi! It's Rhys, and it's a lovely old name and not said as Reece or Rees in Welsh.

I'm still about the Tomtasha tattoo. I hate it when welsh words are misappropriated. You have your own words, use them.

Why is middle-aged Jazzer getting so excited about Ruairi's 18th? I get that life might be a bit more drab than usual, but still ...

don't tell me Jazzer's middle aged now?! He's maybe 29 in my head..... oh yes, thinking about it that's probably a decade too young!

He's about the same age as Ed, so about 36?

Oh just listened to the film, what a tearjerker!

Real boop to the TA & SWs. What other drama would have that kind of loop back to 14 years!

I thought Jazza's excitement was about selling his home brew.

You're probably right! I was wandering in and out ...

@Choccyp1g

I thought Jazza's excitement was about selling his home brew.

Yes, the dumped the booze in the appointed place and fled because someone was coming.

Taswama
Its not surprising that the early German knowledge has been lost, without any kind of practice.

What was surprising, however, was that he had lost it and gained the accent of a place he had never been to, all in a matter of some six weeks.

MUM, The barman was spelt Rhys by the BBC. There's a list of some of the common mis-spellings at
ambridgereporter.org.uk/Spellings_of_Proper_Names.html

Jazzer was in Ed's class at school so they are of an age.

I can still remember the spelling of Ruaridgh for the son of the woman I shared maternity ward with over 20 years ago.
The mother was struggling, but everyone else in the ward could remember so we'd all chant it when yet another midwife asked for confirmation of child's name.

Is it a name and does it sound like Rory?

I've heard of memory boxes with a special message to the child at birthdays etc.
This audio one for Ruairi came out the blue, but I imagine Jenny would have been less supportive now if she'd been party to listening to recorded messages over the years and Brian's response to hearing Siobhan's voice annually

MikeUniformMike
Is it a name and does it sound like Rory?

It's just another way of saying Rodrigo...