Movin' on up (Ed and Emmur), Movin' on out (Brian and Jenny), Time to break free (Lily from Russ, we hope), Nothing can stop *The Archers* in 2019 - Thread 97 (Joe Grundy’s age!)

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Many thanks to @LilianGish for the title and to @NotdeadyetBOING for being the last threadstarter. Further thanks due to @PseudoBadger for kicking of this long, long series of Archers threads and to @DadDadDad for being our resident statistician and keeping the ball rolling when Pseudo stepped back a bit.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed.

Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3439443-keep-it-to-yourself-the-archers-spoilers-thread-4, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

I wonder where Brian and Jennifer will end up. I was very taken with the idea on the last thread that the mysterious Gills won't last very long and the house will be sold back to the Aldridges at a knockdown price.

How much did Kenton borrow off David please? I'm guessing it was for refurbishing The Bull?

I'm keen for an answer to this too. I have a vague notion that Kenton "invested" in Scruff Gin didn't he? That was the last time I remember David behind angry at him for not paying him back instead.

Speaking of Scruff gin, does Toby still owe Pip £5k?

Oops - may have just muttered "oh do fuck off Brian" at the radio in my children's hearing... I think I got away with it.

How much did Kenton borrow off David please?
Dunno. When they can get away with it, the SW are usually very vague about money.

What happened to Ruth's inheritance from Heatherpet? it must have been a significant amount. I vaguely remember David gloating about the cash injection, has it all been spent?

I hate the way Kenton behaves in relation to money.

Kirsty is so grumpy these days.

I think Jenny's done so well, she is versatile Lillian G. She made the decision to sell up after all. I think there's so much more to her than we see.

I dislike Brian but wow, I dislike Kirsty more. The neighbours have 1 birthday party and the way she groans because it's so loud she feels she can't hear herself dining out appalling advice and whinging about her dead end job. If she doesn't like it, the customers or the business (and this is not the first time this has come up) why doesn't she do something worthy?

I'm fascinated by everyone's spare kettles. When I was growing up we used a sauce pan to boil water in for tea. We had nice Liberty's frocks but definitely no kettle and also no phone.

I can't quite believe how rude Kirsty is being, she's really openly contemptuous.

Kenton's relationship with money is some sort of compulsive disorder, isn't it. Try to be sensible for a month or two... spend! spend! spend! What's he bought since he's owed money to David? A new car, a share in Scruff gin, some DJ decks (to make himself look embarrassingly old and scare away all young people).

If the Archers SW really DO read Mumsnet threads, they will make Kirsty draw a parking diagram for someone to explain the parking wars!!!

Why did Kirsty come back anyway?

Surplus tagines will be the least of Jenny’s problems if/when Kate rocks up - they can hardly store her in the barn

Kate will be furious. Who has a spare room?

Shame on you Kirsty. If my single best friend had had a secret snog with a fit karate teacher I'd be encouraging her to invite him over! I know Helen is vulnerable, but Kirsty could be more encouraging to Helen to find someone special.

Marguerita Kirsty came back to be the neighbour from hell for the Aldridges, especially envionmental despoiler Brian, of course.

I expect Kirsty will get out of the rut she's in and find something more satisfying to do. As to her grumpiness, it's mostly in relation to Brian, isn't it? - as someone who genuinly cares about the environment, he's hardly going to be her favourite person is he?

Oops - may have just muttered "oh do fuck off Brian" at the radio
While I cant help being fond of Brian when he does things like this cheerful surprise party for Jenny, if that comment was when he came out with the 'feminist eco warrior dig', then I'd agree... was Kirsty feministing too much by pointing out she has a job and daring to tell him off or what?

Kirsty, Alice and Brian. Top 3 on my "I hate you" list currently

Drunk Alice is very much like regular Kate. Indiscreet, indignant and so self-centered. Ian will go spare.

How long before Lily is back?

Going back a couple of days here but how does Lower Loxley suddenly have a shop? Is it a National Trust type gift shop or a good shop? I've been listening every day for a good ten years and have never heard of it before. And absolutely, Kirsty should have been encouraging Helen to go for it with Lee and have some fun. That was bizarre.

Argh, FOOD not 'good' shop.
Also, I live very near Capel Curig and Natasha is not from anywhere near here. Tom's tattoo is bordering on offensive - in what way can he lay claim to a deep, indescribable yearning for the land and spirit of Wales? The little prick.

I am a bit behind, but commend Lily actress for expressing the unsaid. Longing to stay and almost pleading for an excuse not to go to Manchester, I wonder what life is really like for her up there.

Kirsty came back to be the neighbour from hell for the Aldridges, especially envionmental despoiler Brian, of course.

Possibly ... But yesterday's moaning from her rather suggested that she's a victim of too many editors - left over from someone else's plan and now about to be moved on. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever for her to be in TA. Her return after the non-wedding was the most incomprehensible thing in the whole history of the world - and now she's a pointless lodger with an unlikely job that she hates, an apparently lukewarm relationship, watching the man who jilted her thrive in a new relationship. It's a complete mess of a story.

Absolutely spot on re Kirsty Quater.

If the Archers SW really DO read Mumsnet threads, they will make Kirsty draw a parking diagram for someone to explain the parking wars!!!

Actually LOLed at this!

Like life Quater

Hating Pat (Tom's Mum) is Welsh.

I couldn't understand why Kirsty was banging on so much about noise from next door. It's highly unlikely that JD and Brine's music is louder than the previous tenants' TV, it can't have been that late when Helen was round there, and a sedate party given by a couple of 70 year olds is hardly going to involve ear-splitting noise. If she'd had Tom as a neighbour she's probably have to listen to him and Natasha having loud sex all over the house.