Keep it to yourself. The Archers Spoilers Thread 4

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Spoiler thread for The Archers. Please keep all discussion in this thread and do not share spoilers on the main Archers Thread.

Previous thread.
Spoiling The Archers one week at a time. Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/2958254-spoiling-the-archers-one-week-at-a-time-thread-3

Look away if you want to avoid one, possibly two fairly clear spoilers.

25 Sep Lexi has a confession to make and there is light at the end of the tunnel for Will.
26 Sep Justin’s nose is pushed out of joint and Rex attempts to play Cupid.
27 Sep Jennifer fears the worst and Pip announces her latest idea.
29 Sep Ian begins to have doubts and Tracy makes herself at home
30 Sep The Grundys have a screw loose and Rex’s confidence takes a knock
1 Oct Brian makes a shocking suggestion and Hannah offers some advice
2 Oct Jennifer finds herself in trouble and there’s an emergency at Berrow
3 Oct Lilian fears the worst an Ed comes to a decision
6 Oct Ian’s concerns come to the forefront and Elizabeth has a brainwave.
7 Oct Emma is on a mission and Toby has a delicate question to ask
8 Oct Ed manages to strike a deal and there’s a final goodbye for Roy
9 Oct Kirsty finds herself out in the cold and Lilian is still suffering the consequences
10 Oct Eddie bids a sad farewell and Ruairi reveals his true feelings.
11 Oct The Grundys are united in grief, and Ambridge marks the passing of a legend.

Sad days ahead

Tying it together for next week:

One-line BBC spoilers
29 Sep Ian begins to have doubts and Tracy makes herself at home.
30 Sep The Grundys have a screw loose and Rex’s confidence takes a knock.
01 Oct Brian makes a shocking suggestion and Hannah offers some advice.
02 Oct Jennifer finds herself in trouble and there’s an emergency at Berrow.
03 Oct Lilian fears the worst and Ed comes to a decision.
04 Oct Lexi attempts to forgive and forget and David issues a stern warning.

Credits Sun 29/9/2019, Mon 30/9/2019, Tue 1/10/2019, Wed 2/10/2019, Thu 3/10/2019, Fri 4/10/2019
Writer: Liz John
Director: Gwenda Hughes
Editor: Jeremy Howe
Brian Aldridge: Charles Collingwood
Jennifer Aldridge: Angela Piper
David Archer: Timothy Bentinck
Helen Archer: Louiza Patikas
Pip Archer: Daisy Badger
Ruth Archer: Felicity Finch
Lilian Bellamy: Sunny Ormonde
Leonard Berry: Paul Copley
Neil Carter: Brian Hewlett
Vince Casey: Tony Turner
Ian Craig: Stephen Kennedy
Justin Elliot: Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother: Nick Barber
Ed Grundy: Barry Farrimond
Eddie Grundy: Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy: Heather Bell
Will Grundy: Philip Molloy
Tracy Horrobin: Susie Riddell
Russ Jones: Andonis James Anthony
Kirsty Miller: Annabelle Dowler
Freddie Pargetter: Toby Laurence
Hannah Riley: Helen Longworth
Lexi Viktorova: Ania Sowinski

Radio Times 28 Sept - 4 Oct 2019
Never let it be said that The Archers plays it safe. Where else on radio or TV would you get a storyline about a boar whose sexual appetite is on the wane? Rex is, of course, very worried about Basil's lack of mojo, especially when his latest initiative fails. The mind boggles...
Over at Berrow, Hannah & Neil's continued clashing leads to a shocking incident - and you can expect the blame game to follow as Justin goes on the warpath.
And Jennifer's fears about Lexi's relationship with her grandchild fester. Seeing how worried she is, Brian decides to do something about it. But his tactics cause hurt & outrage, with Jennifer left in the firing line thanks to her husband's misguided actions.

And this one puzzles me, because the date I have been given is wrong and I don't usually get given spoilers from the weekend Mail until Saturday, but the content seems to fit:

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Sep 22-27
A pig with a libido shortfall is just one of the problems besetting the farming folk. Ian is worrying about his place in the world (well, you would if you lived in Ambridge, wouldn’t you?), Jennifer is concerned about Lexi’s relationship with her grandchild, and all those bidding for the abattoir are feeling the strain as the moment when the winner is announced approaches.
And then, there’s the pressing matter of cider time at Grange Farm - surely, that’s not going to go without a hitch?
And, on the subject of accidents, will Hannah and Neil’s squabbles lead to something shocking? And who will end up getting the blame?

Thanks, both.

Curtains for Joe at last, then.

Looks like Brian is about to have a visit from the personality transplant fairy too. Are they really going to make him tell Lexi to sling her hook and stop bothering Adam and Ian? I hope not.

I do hope Neil is going to come out on top in any dispute with Hannah, I'm tired of her trying to push him out.

Oh, me too Tonnerre, she's a hateful person.

Poor Joe. I wondered where he'd got to.

Suspect Brine is going to try to pay Lexi off in some way.

Hope he doesn’t do anything that jeopardises the slow moving legal administrative process ...

Now I am confused. I've been given

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Sep 29 - Oct 04
Brian sets out to allay Jennifer’s fears about her grandchild, but his suggested solution just ends up making matters much, much worse. And he’s not the only one stirring up trouble (this is Ambridge after all …) - Justin’s plan to get Lilian to invest backfires rather badly,
Neil and Hannah’s clashes at Berrow lead to an accident, and an attempt to give Basil the boar his mojo back turns out to be a damp squib.
At least, things are calming down at Brookfield as a truce is called. Will it last?

and it's not the same as the one I was given half-way through the week, but it does seem to apply to next week just as that one did.

My brain hurts...

Asking I suppose it means that the intern emailed out the synopsis for the 'old' storyline before it had to be written without Joe in it?

I think I read somewhere that they are recorded in blocks about 6 months in advance over 4 days, so the timing would probably be about right?

I only have the information Vanessa Whitburn put at the front of the annual printed Who's Who, but who knows what may have changed since she left.

What she said there was
"The detailed planning is done at monthly script meetings about two months ahead of transmission. Each writer produces a week's worth of scripts in a remarkable 13 days."

"Actors receive their scripts a few days before recording, which takes place every four weeks in [the Mailbox]. Twenty-four episodes are recorded ... in six days, two hours of studio time per episode."

(That's partly précis because we don't need the stuff about where the Mailbox is or how long an episode lasts.)

Thursday, innit.

One-line BBC spoilers
06 Oct Ian’s concerns come to the forefront and Elizabeth has a brainwave.
07 Oct Emma is on a mission and Toby has a delicate question to ask.
08 Oct Ed manages to strike a deal and there’s a final goodbye for Roy.
09 Oct Kirsty finds herself out in the cold and Lilian is still suffering the consequences.
10 Oct Eddie bids a sad farewell and Ruairi reveals his true feelings.
11 Oct The Grundys are united in grief, and Ambridge marks the passing of a legend.

Credits
Sun 6/10/2019, Mon 7/10/2019, Tue 8/10/2019, Wed 9/10/2019, Thu 10/10/2019, Fri 11/10/2019
Writer: Adrian Flynn
Director: Gwenda Hughes
Editor: Jeremy Howe
Jolene Archer: Buffy Davis
Lilian Bellamy: Sunny Ormonde
Ian Craig: Stephen Kennedy
Ruairi Donovan: Arthur Hughes
Justin Elliot: Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother: Nick Barber
Toby Fairbrother: Rhys Bevan
Clarrie Grundy: Heather Bell
Ed Grundy: Barry Farrimond
Eddie Grundy: Trevor Harrison
Emma Grundy: Emerald O’Hanrahan
Will Grundy: Philip Molloy
Joy Horville: Jackie Lye
Adam Macy: Andrew Wincott
Kate Madikane: Perdita Avery
Kirsty Miller: Annabelle Dowler
Philip Moss: Andy Hockley
Elizabeth Pargetter: Alison Dowling
Lynda Snell: Carole Boyd
Oliver Sterling: Michael Cochrane
Roy Tucker: Ian Pepperell
Lexi Viktorova: Ania Sowinski

Radio Times Ambridge Diary Oct 6-11
We’ve known it would be coming, but this week we bid farewell to Joe Grundy following actor Ted Kelsey’s death in April. The goodbye comes following fraught efforts to produce the Grundys’ famous cider, which are initially thrown into jeopardy thanks to a broken piece of equipment. Prepare for poignant scenes as the family unites after a difficult few months.
Over at Lower Loxley, meanwhile, Elizabeth approaches Lynda with a suggestion for an alternative Christmas show, but is left stunned by the response.
Lilian faces the consequences of Justin’s actions over the abattoir.
And Ian becomes overprotective of Xander when Kate offers to babysit for the afternoon - but is he right to be concerned?

(Of course he is: this is Kate.)

Thanks Asking

Thanks, Asking!

Thanks Asking

And

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Oct 6-11
The Autumn leaves drift down, ripe apples fall and the Grundys prepare to make their famous cider. It’s usually a happy time for the troubled family, but a sad event means that there will some salt tears in this year’s batch.
As the Grundys bid a poignant goodbye, Emma proffers an olive branch when she pays her respects.
Ian and Adam have a very different dilemma when Kate offers to babysit. Best of luck with that one.
The Fairbrothers, who, as a family are no slouches when it comes to courting, find themselves out of their depth when they discover that Rex’s ageing boar can’t cut the mustard.
As the Fairbrother brothers seek a solution, Elizabeth puts forward a Christmas scheme to Lynda, and is stunned by La Snell’s response.

(It is not Rex's boar. It is Neil's boar. Rex is Neil's paid employee; he does not own the pigs.)

Asking Well Rex does look after the piggies, and being conscientious he would no doubt feel proprietorial about them.

I came on here to give the RT precis about Poor Joe who finally KTB this week, I see many got here before me. I don't really think it classifies as a spoiler when it's been printed in the RT but there you are

Thanks again, Asking. Ppeat, yes, spoilers are anything not yet broadcast. We've had people objecting to spoilers in the thread title when a new thread got started midweek and omnibus listeners found out about something from the thread title they hadn't heard yet. I think that was Nic's death. So always better to err on the side of caution!

OK thanks Gasp

I think on the main TA thread, 'spoilers' is just shorthand for storyline trailers being mentioned on the thread before the episode airs.

I'm fairly relaxed about spoilers - and you can't avoid them entirely given that the CA will sometimes make a comment at the end of an episode: "And tomorrow, there's a surprise visit from Jennifer..." - well, yes, it's going to be less of a surprise now you've told us in advance isn't it?

Oh that's interesting, so the RT is a SPOILER publication Ummmmm !!

To those who wish to keep themselves pure on the main thread, yes!

It's kind of perfect that they waited until cider-making time to shuffle Joe off isn't it?

Only they can't actually MAKE cider I took the piss, but it's quite clever really (i must admit I didn't think I would be calling the SWs clever!)

Next on:

11 Oct The Grundys are united in grief, and Ambridge marks the passing of a legend.
13 Oct Emotions run high at Grange Farm and Elizabeth offers a shoulder to cry on
14 Oct There’s an awkward encounter for Emma and a sensitive issue is raised for Brian
15 Oct Tension rises at Berrow and Ruairi opens up about his feelings
16 Oct The past returns to haunt Jennifer and Jim faces a dilemma
17 Oct Will takes the first steps to moving on and panic rises for Peggy
18 Oct There’s a surprise for the Grundys and it’s a big day for Elizabeth
19 Oct Tempers flare at Grange Farm and Jim is on a mission.
21 Oct The residents share memories of Joe, and Rex maintains his independence.
22 Oct Tony finds himself roped in to a scheme and Vince continues to make enemies.
23 Oct Elizabeth has concerns about the latest Ambridge rumour and Joy adopts an unorthodox method.
24 Oct There’s a shock for Oliver, and Kate’s latest drama causes debate.
25 Oct Eddie makes a surprising discovery and feelings are hurt at Grey Gables.

Cast for next week:

Writer, Adrian Flynn
Director, Julie Beckett
Editor, Jeremy Howe

David Archer ….. Timothy Bentinck
Tony Archer ….. David Troughton
Brian Aldridge ….. Charles Collingwood
Jennifer Aldridge ….. Angela Piper
Neil Carter ….. Brian Hewlett
Susan Carter ….. Charlotte Martin
Ruairi Donovan ….. Arthur Hughes
Eddie Grundy ….. Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy ….. Heather Bell
Will Grundy ….. Philip Molloy
Emma Grundy ….. Emerald O'Hanrahan
Ed Grundy ….. Barry Farrimond
Alistair Lloyd ….. Michael Lumsden
Jim Lloyd ….. John Rowe
Adam Macy ….. Andrew Wincott
Jazzer McCreary ….. Ryan Kelly
Elizabeth Pargetter ….. Alison Dowling
Hannah Riley ….. Helen Longworth
Peggy Woolley ….. June Spencer
Joy Horville ….. Jackie Lye
Jamila ….. Lorna Laidlaw

I wish the person writing the preview would realise that the plural of Grundy is Grundys, not Grundy's.