Male or female, young or old - Bad Stuff can happen to you in The Archers. Discuss the perils of Ambridge life here.

[PseudoBadger]

Not exactly upbeat at the moment is it

I'm pretty sure I heard Kirsty call Tom 'Roy' at one point. I'm going to have to LA tomorrow just in case I was mistaken.

Very sad about Sara Coward. And awful to think we'll never hear Caroline's lovely voice again. Will really miss her.

Thank you for the new thread Pseudo.

Thanks for the new thread Psuedo

I wondered about Helen and Roy. That might work quite well.

Kirsty and Patrick? I have it at the back of my mind that Patrick might be gay, but have I imagined that? And has he ever spoken, or just been talked of?

I thought it was well done tonight.

I'd like Kirsty to be a character in her own right - not as a mrs archer or as a pseudo archer family member.

Really sad episode, strangely mixed up with Grange Farm shenanigans, FFS.

Lilly is in Doctors at the moment.

Vango I thought the same about Helen and Roy!

Thank you for the new thread Pseudo.

I'm very sorry to learn about Sara Coward's death, she had a lovely voice.

So sad for Kirsty, very well acted, made me cry. Thought Tom was good too.

Very unexpected episode ! Poor Kirsty !

I'd be delighted if Kirsty's next child is healthy and grows with an interest in birds and church music.

Oh that was heartbreaking . Kirsty seemed so numb, I hope she's going to be ok. It wasn't clear that she'd been to see the baby was it? She didn't want to to with Tom, which was understandable, but was that because it was with Tom or because she didn't want to see the baby?

The Grange Farm stuff was weird, a bit jarring.

The only (current) characters not connected to the Archers are Lynda and Robert. Without an Archers connection I can't see a role for Kirsty.

Lynda and Robert are Archer grandparents!

Of course they are! I'd forgotten about James 😁!

Roy?

Grundys?

Anisha?

Professional relationships don't count

I'd argue that professional relationships do count! Kirsty going it alone wouldn't even have that. And Roy's Tom's best friend and not-quite best man who married John's ex-girlfriend and had an affair with Elizabeth Archer.

...and is the father of Jenny Darling's granddaughter!

That too.

Which is why the programme is 'The Archers' and not 'Ambridge'.

If everyone is involved with an archer there always have to be newcomers

If Kirsty has a baby with Patrick then that child can potentially have a riotous teenager hood with Jack

The only small point I was trying to make is that characters generally don't have storylines that aren't connected in some way to the Archer family. Even Bert's loss of Freda was handled while he was living at Brookfield. His most recent appearance was giving advice to Adam. Alan is the Vicar, a defined role. Oliver is connected to Shula (his wife's best friend) via the hunt. What could Kirsty contribute without a connection to the Archers, however tenuous. She'd only go the way of Kathy eventually.

umbrellaonesie - you posted at a busy time, so it seems your intro got missed, but welcome to these threads! New comments and questions are treated kindly here.

pseudo's threads don't quite go back to the year dot, but I note that this is actually the SEVENTY-FIFTH thread in a chain that she has kept up unbroken for the past few years. So, thank you, pseudo.

And yours was the 75th post on the 75th thread DDD! Spooky.