Elves have needs too - will there be a pheasants' revolt? Discuss The Archers here

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I've just browsed Lowfield for the first time - they really don't like Pat do they!

Brilliant! And so glad H has already registered the birth while Rob was sitting around complacently thinking she couldn't.

didn't Peggy have an abusive husband in the past? maybe bells will ring

Interesting lilian views Rob as someone not to cross

Well done Helen! Not as useless as we thought.

Peggy: Boo hoo, it was nasty for me when Rob was nasty.
Lilian: Oh don't worry ... also I am mourning a friend.
Peggy: Boo hoo, it was nasty for me
Lilian: Let's go and have lunch.

FFS.

Looking forward to listening in catch up...is Knob starting to unravel himself?

I am hoping that Peggy at the grand old age of 90whatever is beginning to realise that the image people project is not necessarily who they are.

Lordy, how many more months of this?

Well it was masterful of whoever thought up that absurd name for Rob to call his child - who could possibly have any empathy with a choice of name called after George Osborne!

Don't like 'she will have to be persuaded'. Hope that doesn't involve Henry.

What's so annoying is that she is worrying about 'making the situation worse', rather than realising that what she has seen actually offers quite a lot of enlightenment on the situation!

Thyme he's going to send Urserler (as Peggy pronounces it) I reckon, to demand access with menaces.

You would also hope that Peggy begins to think - I wonder if Rob was like that with her, what was he like with her grand-daughter which led to her stabbing him?

I do find it interesting that no-one seems to be having that conversation in Ambridge?

Oh you can be sure it will Thymeout

Why does Peggy automatically assume that Ursula must be innocent of whatever caused Helen to attack Knob? After all, she's been directly unpleasant about the whole Henry business.

And the big question is: Why FFS have the SWs remembered the unlamented demise of Paul whilst ignoring much more recent and relevant events?

We've got loads more MrsCB . I reckon were stuck with it and the aftermath until at least Xmas ...then we'll segue neatly into Lynda's best ever, much better than Fallon's jumble trail, village production. Oh joy!

Is Henry really on a playdate? Or at home with Grandpa Bruce and strange Uncle Miles?

I assume Ursula can't speak to Helen either, as she's a prosecution witness. It's going to be incredibly frustrating to Rob that he can't work directly on her to try to persuade her to do what he wants. But I fear that blackmail involving Henry is all too likely a possibility.

I wonder if he'll try sending Bruce? That wouldn't go well.

Oh could Ursula go and say that she ought to be very careful about withholding one child since they've got Henry and are responsible for his - ahem - morals, values, and perception of truth 24/6? Or something along those lines?

At least Lynda's Christmas production won't be SOC influenced. Unless he's proposing to leave her putting on Gaslight as his proud legacy?

Why doesn't Granny Arsela want Knob to see the baby? That was odd. I thought she'd be all for it.

I glazed over during most of Lillian's affair with Paul but didn't he become a manipulative git towards the end? Or would Lil not see any parallels?

Peggy still hasn't seen any malevolence in Ursula. Pity.

Surely he can't send anyone because Helen still has to agree to any visitors and she's unlikely to agree to any of the Titcheners. It'd be interesting to see how Henry-blackmailly he can get when his two main avenues of communication are 1. getting Helen's family to pass on a message, and 2. through a solicitor.

Seisigfach - I noticed that, too. She seemed surprised that he would want custody. I think she's planning to be at BHC till Rob gets better and may be getting a bit fed up with being nurse to Rob and nanny to Henry.

When H was with Anna at the unit, she was looking out of the window at a toddler with its mother - a little girl. That seems to suggest the baby would be allowed to stay with Helen for some time, whatever the father wanted.

She can have Jack with her for up to 18mths and I find it hard to imagine that a court would agree to her being separated from him before that , esp. as she is in the best place for them both at the moment. Knob can rant all he likes about residence but he might have to wait his turn.

I suppose Knob could write to Helen, or get his solicitors to do so?