SOC reveals he's a quitter whilst Keri sews up plot holes on Twitter about the wicked wife-sitter! Discuss the Archers here.

[PseudoBadger]

Not long until our thread's 3 year birthday!

Since we're all comparing notes, I had an emergency CS when my daughter was born (nearly 24 years ago, so ancient history now) because when I went into labour it was discovered that she was (a) breech and in a particularly difficult presentation and (b) very big (9lbs 2ozs).

My son was a vb 19 months later. He was induced (yes! read some of the posts above with my heart in my mouth) because I had oligohydramnios (look it up) and there was concern that the placenta might be about to fail.

All in hospital. I know lots of people who had home births and thought they were great and others who had wanted a home birth and were disappointed not to get one. I, however, am the most risk averse person on the planet and would have worried about being so far from the operating theatre, should one be needed. I also agreed with a woman I knew when my children were little who said to me once 'Who would want to do THAT in their home?'

I had two vbacs - and both arrived the day before I was due to discuss "what we do now the baby is so overdue" with the consultant.
One was very very nearly a home birth, by accident.

Oh my god - it's Tony!

PLEASE start joining the dots you two

Blaming Helen now for upsetting Henwee. Not good.

I think Knob sounds tired (well, the actor).

Is he angling to get Henry exiled to BF?

an exiled Henry would be a good informant

Exiled to boarding school...

Come on Pat. Tell Helen that it's not her memory.

yes!
no she didn't bloody tell you!

Isn't he 5 Wips?

you want xyz DON'T YOU

Please don't let Knob be the one to raise a toast to John.

I hate Rob. That is all.

ah, well done Johnny

Ok. Do I want to know what happened?

Nothing & everything BYOS. A few more pieces of the jigsaw puzzle are starting to come together and Tom's dislike of Knob is becoming more apparent.

Oh well that's promising

The way Helen spoke there when she was telling Pat that she really did want a home birth - absolutely chilling. Rob saying to Pat 'this is what Helen thinks' - Helen repeating it like a child trying not to get into trouble for forgetting her lesson.

And as for the assertion that Ursula is an expert on childbirth! Laughable, surely? This must be the straw that breaks open the Patbot casing, allowing the real Pat to step out and start the fight back. Please.

Crucially, Tom made Rob stay behind while he went to look after Helen. Go Tom!

Patbot still can't see the wood for the trees and thinks that Helen is being flaky by not returning Kirsty's calls and getting upset with Henry. Rob is implying that Helen's mood swings are making him wet the bed.

Meanwhile Tom is squaring up for Scotch Egg wars. I wonder if the black pudding ones or Clarrie's will give the hardest thump if he has to resort to using them as ammunition.

Come on Pat and Tom, time to get talking properly to Kirsty

Loved the toast to John. I've written before about my great uncle John dying in the same way , leaving a tribe of kids and making my grandad the head of the family when he was born to the angsty middle child like Helen.

Obviously that's Henry wetting the bed, not Rob, as that would imply weakness.

finestgrundy how for you, really.

What's odd about the concept of full term is that is varies from country to country. My Hungarian friend said over there it is 37 weeks, yet in France I believe it is 41 weeks.