SOC has soaked Ambridge to the core across a never ending weekend. Discuss The Archers post-watershed here.

[PseudoBadger]

Deluged damp squid or not? And has Peggy been assisted off the mortal coil by Rob yet?
And when will JD and Brian remember Debbie?

Dunno, I think they were floundering a bit with the pasta.

Just marking my plaice

I expect the vicar will turn up at any moment on his motorpike and sidecarp.

I feel bad now at carping about the angle they took with the meeting of the old trout and the witch.

(a witch is a right-eye flounder. Not a lot of people know that, I suspect)

I thought the meeting was a load of codswallop.

If only Rob had a secret brother called John Dory who he could tell to halibut out of his business then we could probably fit every flat fish into this thread. It's our sole opportunity.

I wonder of his brother would be as slippery an eel as Knob?

Ha ha! Rob had better get his skates on if he wants to get the paternity issue sorted before Helen finds out.

I hope the Grundys don't run up a massive barbel (bar bill ) with the money that Kirsty's left for them at the Bull!

Oh and errol does that mean those flatfish with their faces kind of twisted round a weird way? Are some of their faces a different way to others? How interesting! or have I totally misunderstood what a right eye flounder is

Oh dear. You lot. Any opportunity or should that be Oper tuna ty.

To be fair R4 Hazel has always been a pantomime villain of the plaice

To my knowledge,that's the first time I have heard Hazel on the Archers, yet she sounded familiar. Is the actress routinely in something else or is it just that kind of a voice?

Kirk1 do you watch Doctor Who? Hazel (Annette Badland) has also been a Slitheen!

I always remember Annette Badland in an episode of Poirot where she got pegged out on a washing line after being murdered . Four and Twenty Blackbirds I believe it was called.

According to IMDB she has been in approx one million TV shows. She mainly used to be in Bergerac though as his secretary... and is in the brilliant Man Down with Greg Davies.

Anyway back to TA - we haven't heard much from Lizbuth recently, the shameless huss-y [geddit? geddit?]

I think that I must have missed Hazel previously; did she appear when I was mid-flounce?
Piggy and Rob might be nasty pieces of work but they are believable. Hazel is not. Neither the script nor the acting.

Bowing to Jessie and Chopper's superior memory skills re Rob and his pink fish ishoos - thanks .

Hazel has been a character in TA all her life (she's 60 next year) but only when the SWs feel like it intermittently. Google tells me that she was the daughter of Jack Woolley's first wife, Valerie Trentham, by her first husband Reggie. We all complain about sensationalism now. However, apparently when Valerie first appeared in Ambridge in 1953 she was unmasked as a spy, assisting thriller writer Mike Daly who was living at Blossom Hill Cottage and was also a spy. She then seems to have thrown up her intelligence career to marry Reggie, who owned Grey Gables. Reggie outlived his usefulness died. Valerie sent Hazel to boarding school and eventually married Jack Woolley, who had bought Grey Gables.

Valerie was also written out The marriage didn't work out and Valerie left Ambridge. Bizarrely, she also left Hazel behind. Jack adopted her. He had never had any biological children of his own and in spite of Hazel's vileness and neglect of him he was always very fond of her. He left her a huge chunk of his estate.

Annette Badland has only played Hazel for ten years or so. Can't remember the previous actor.

I can remember some very sad scenes when Hazel would visit Jack (generally because she wanted something) - he would be pathetically glad to see her & sweet to her, & she would be brisk & offhand & downright rude, really.

trevor I notice that that particular Agatha Christie story is often repeated on the telly, there was a Hercule Poirot version of the whodunnit only last night .

My fave version is the one with Geraldine McEwan.

Annette Badland is IMO a fairly crap actor.

Anyone else think Knob's fish preferences might be setting us up for a gaslighting (gaswhiting?) SL?

Hellin: Here's a lovely salmon thingy I've been slaving over all day, darling!
Knob: But I've TOLD you I can't stand salmon
H: Oh, I thought it was tuna you didn't like, darling?
K: No, tuna is fine. I like tuna. Can't stand salmon. I've told you and told you this. Darling
H:

What with Rob twirling his pantomime-villain moustache ('You dirty slut!') and Hazel flouncing around the village like a good'un, it's going to be over-acting central for the next few eps.

Hazel (Annette Badland) occasionally appears in the Queen Vic in Eastenders as Aunt Babe alongside old Kate.

Rob's fish preferences may of course be a red herring (sorry, someone had to).

His performance at the meeting, in common with the sab incident show him to be a red(faced) snapper.

It's a damp squid
Rob believes real men only eat red meat.

that was my understanding too enochroot. like his tantrum when she was going to do a stirfry for Adam and ian and he wanted STEAK FOR REAL MEN (homophobe). plus he knows food is a sensitive area for helen