Old (Hall), New (build), Borrowed (money). Will Ambridge be feeling blue the morning after? Discuss The Archers wedding and the aftermath here.

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Roll up roll up for The Wedding special from Catheter Hall. Is the lark flying high? Will Krusty jam that ring on the porky finger?

Surely he is in the cast list for next week so still alive ...

I did hold my breath when Kirsty gave Helen a piece of her mind. Rob kept a low profile. He must have been left with Henry.

mimsy

my mum thinks my dp is far too good for me! she'd be forcing me up the aisle

Tony did go too far

& how delighted he was to have Peggy on his side. I wonder if that's the first time it ever happened & it went to his head

Ewie I,m surprised that Eddie hasn't thought of that yet - Ambridge's answer to The Priory.

The Grundys may yet make their fortune!

I thought the John remark was an unnecessary sledgehammer blow in an otherwise realistic rant.

Tom is in, but Kirsty is out for next week. Annabel also said she couldn't't practice her wail because she has 2 small children. Maybe she's a MNer. Any Kirsty related names seen lurking on this thread?

hope kirsty has gone on her honeymoon with her mum

But Tom still doesn't get it, does he? He was expecting a pat on the back for calling it off?!

I think that the Tony/Tom relationship is very interesting. Lots of people struggle with their feelings towards one of their children who they just don't understand, add to that the loss of another child and its going to make for a very difficult dynamic.

I think TOm started to get it during the course of that conversation

Please someone enlighten me as to who Patrick is? Is he the organ player and a silent character?

Yes, when Tom said 'but wasn't I a brave little soldier' or something like that - I nearly screamed at the radio. Well, I actually raised an eyebrow but you know what I mean.

Baby cobbler was yelling during some of it, most annoying! I also heard DH telling ds and dd that if they interrupted me during the Archers then my head would explode

My problem is that Tony and Pat haven't been constantly comparing him John. I don't think of John's memory as being held up as something no one could possibly live up to. His memory was resurrected for the son of John episodes and then there has been no mention til the last couple of weeks? I'm not surprised Roy had forgotten about the Fergie - my realisation came at exactly the same moment as his. I can accept that Tom FEELS he's lived in the shadow of John, but that is in his own mind and not as a result of Pat and Tony which is why I find Tony trotting it out now so unrealistic.

But Tom thinks he has done the 'right thing'. God, his timing is crap! DH just said he'd have gone through with it and would have hoped for the best. (Now a bit worried that may have been what he did!)
And the Peggy/Tony relationship is poison isn't it? Couldn't bear Tony's delight that his old mum put the boot in.

Hard to fill John's shoes....

Lillian - I agree. I just think Tom is using John as an excuse for his own poor behaviour.

I know Tom's behaved badly (bit of an understatement!), but not one iota of a caring attitude from his parents? Wouldn't Pat be worried he's depressed, for instance? And Tony was just horrible. Ugh.

I don't know, I think its ok as a parent to be really disappointed in your child's behaviour. I suspect if he'd seemed a bit more concerned about Kirsty to them rather than the wasn't I brave act - well they may have had a bit more compassion.

And also he must have realised that Peggy would have been cross he left it so very late.

But he did do the right thing. His timing stank!

In a few years Kirsty will look back and think 'thank god I wasn't legally tied to the idiot'. Wasting more years on a failing marriage would be worse.

I know people who have separated straight after the honeymoon or a little after and in most cases the person doing the calling off knew on the day but were too frightened to do it/felt like they were on a train they couldn't get off. The resulting drag of proceedings was not helpful to the injured party

I think there was a lot of truth in what Tony said - Tom wants to do what Tom wants to do, he always thinks he is right and Tom's thinking that offering to pay for everything would solve the problem was absolutely typical.

Yep, agree with Princess. I think Tom is depressed.

Why did he buy the pearls? Guilt? Told to? I think he cares for Kirsty but something inside him snapped about this wedding. I really felt sorry for him... Good acting.

Horrible to think of, whether it's before or after the big do.

Anyway, pleased to hear that the little Cobblers are being brought up properly. Can't you get the baby to fall silent automatically on hearing the signature tune?

Scuttlebug, Patrick is Kirsty's birdwatching pal. He also plays the organ at St Stephen's and the piano for the pantomimes. He may or may not be gay - this has never been discussed, as far as I can recall, but Kirsty did once say there was nothing romantic between them, I think. If he isn't gay, perhaps that may change now? I would like her to get some happiness.

i don't know, i like to think that after the disappointment was expressed (and minus invoking the disappointment of the deceased brother), i would say something like 'you have barely eaten, sit down and have something'

mimsy could you train that in a baby? like some sort of pavlov reaction? or a tot of whisky at 18.45?

(disclaimer: i don't have children)