Big Farma in Little Ambridge - come and talk The Archers talk

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New thread for the beginning of the pheasant season.

Said by Darrell in implausible Brummie accent:

Oh Shula, I know I used to naive and easily-led but now I'm homeless I've become positively moronic.

Hopeless storyline, requiring usual Archers personality change for anything to happen (eg Ruth's would-be fling, Shula's fling, Roy's acid attack on whatsername etc...).

aha DAMIAN
Have no idea why I got those confused.
BRill thanks

I rescind my previous post having listened to the episode again - Shula was actually quite sympathetic. I wasn't listening properly last night and my overriding impression was of the educational pamphlet side of their conversation

That's exactly it fluffi- it is more an exercise in sw personality change rather than insight into mental illness and homelessness.

He/this sl annoys me so much I Long even for a pat and cathy night out as a diversion!

London Mother It wasn't so much an olive branch as a cart-load of holly branches that did the trick.
But the sloe gin and the turkey order was what got the gleam back into Joe's eye, though they may have to invite the Grundy's round for Christmas dinner to help eat it.

choccy I love you!

I simply cannot wait for the Sterling / Grundy Christmas lunch!

No, Kirsty never went out with Patrick. They just went to look at birds together. The boyfriend was some random bloke who never spoke, I think.

I think the Darrell dialogue is very well done, actually.

And well done to Oliver for the genius of sloe gin. Worth much more to Joe than £1500 or however much it was.

I found it very odd that Jill was saying she was having a hard time accepting that she was getting old and bits of her were failing - this is a woman whose husband died of old age sitting by the fire! Surely that would have given her a fairly keen sense of her own mortality already...

Grendel I'm prepared to be persuaded. What's so good about the Darrell dialogue because it seems to me that he's gone from being an ex-con carpenter organising dogfights to a gibbering idiot practically overnight: frightening horses, ruining videos, and being a non-attentive pedestrian.

I'm inclined to disagree fluffi - what we're seeing of Darrell now is what he's really like - with added heartache and stress thrown in.

He's a really interesting (amateur) psychological case study. When Ilona used to roll her eyes while speaking of her husband I thought it was overacting; whereas in hindsight it seems she had been married, always, to a person who never developed into adulthood. I imagine she would have had to think and do everything for him outside his craft. He is constantly looking for someone bigger and stronger to defer to. Hence the pathetic attempts at stuff that turned out to be criminal....

It's dreadfully sad to hear him asking if he can take a drink up to his room, or if it's all right to have a bath. He very much wants a responsible adult to look after him at all times.

I thought that too really. It's one thing to be upset/ shocked/ scared about news but to be suddenly aware she is getting old !

fluffi - but he wasn't an 'ex-con organising dog fights' ... I don't think we know why he got banged up but probably by going along with what some real criminals wanted; same thing with the dog-fights, he got into that through weakness and wanting to placate Ilona with some money when things were tight. I don't think there's been a character change at all - he's someone who reacts (weakly) to events all through.

Oh no - the William and Edward dog thing was so obvious but so sad.poor big eddy and Clarrie.

Oh nooo....

But WTF was Ed thinking, whether it was Baz or not the dog wasn't worrying stock, which (correct me if I'm wrong) is the circumstance where farmers are justified in shooting a dog.

God, steal his wife, try to steal his son but shoot his dog! Enough Ed, enough.

What will George say? Will this be the start of him hating Ed?

Ed has become rather unhinged on the whole dog issue hasn't he?

It's dreadfully sad to hear him asking if he can take a drink up to his room, or if it's all right to have a bath. He very much wants a responsible adult to look after him at all times.

You do know he's not real don't you?

I don't know about dreadfully sad, the whole set-up seems highly implausible. A bit like Alistair's lightening gambling cure and Helen's rapid recovery from an eating disorder to become an artificially inseminated breeder and magnet to every unlikely male in Borsetshire.

What do you mean it's not real?!?!

Anyone mentioned Father Christmas to you BitOutofPractice?

Nno pleeease are you telling me that The Archers AND Father Christmas aren't REAL???? [grin

Well, if they ARE real, what do they listen to at 7pm?

what do they listen to at 7pm

the news headlines

Yes, it is a bit odd how so few people on the radio or TV never seem to listen/watch anything themselves.

Errol DD1 is a producer for an independent TV co. and she doesn't have time for doing ANYTHING they work so effing hard.

This could be one of the reasons why standards are slipping; they're too young to know what the viewers and listeners want (she worked in compliance for a while and said to me I should have her job because my moral compass is more old fashioned tuned to the audiences' ) which is why things like Ross and Brandgate happened.

I think Errol meant people in the programmes (the characters) not the people working ON the programmes !

Caught up with last night's events - how sad! As a dog owner I had a tear in my eye - "you killed him, how could you"