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Private school refusing to authorise leave

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Springhare76 · 15/09/2025 14:47

DS2 is 15 and just started year 11 at a private school. He has just been offered an 8 week trial at a premier league football academy which would involve him missing 2 mornings of school a week. I have emailed the school for approval. Not heard back yet but I think they are going to decline it which means that he will miss out on a massive opportunity. He lives and breathes football so this is huge for him. What are my options if they do refuse leave?

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XelaM · 18/09/2025 20:26

Springhare76 · 18/09/2025 16:40

So, the club came back with a revised schedule so the trial is 2.5 weeks (started today) and would require him to miss approx 1.5 days of school each week. The head is refusing to authorise any leave at all. We are arranging a meeting which will hopefully be tomorrow latest as DS has to be at training at 1pm on Monday. So we are left with the option of either DS missing the trial or changing school. I am speaking to an education lawyer later to see if there is anything we can do from a legal perspective.

I'm really shocked by the school's response and that would mean a complete breakdown in relationship with the school for me I'm afraid. I have never heard of a school refusing leave for something like this, especially one you are paying for! Once your son is out of that school I would leave them a very honest review and name and shame the school to warn other parents because I don't know of any parents who would be happy with this.

Fruitlips · 18/09/2025 20:58

It looks to me like the head knows that you won’t give up this opp, and so he is basically getting your son out of his school the easy way.

Fruitlips · 18/09/2025 21:01

The revised schedule is actually more than it was before

before it was 2 mornings, so one day in total
now it’s 1.5 days.

all very last minute and what the explanation of the club for at the very last minute increasing the schedule

Allthefruit · 18/09/2025 21:22

Finallybreathingout · 18/09/2025 19:59

Perhaps if you read the entire thread rather than posting off the cuff snippiness you’d know the answer to that?

I've read the thread.
Others have alluded to other threads where op children have behaviour/attendance issues. And that makes total sense of the schools stance.
If this was a child who was working hard behaving well and on track for stellar grades school would be bending over backwards to keep them

XelaM · 18/09/2025 21:25

Allthefruit · 18/09/2025 21:22

I've read the thread.
Others have alluded to other threads where op children have behaviour/attendance issues. And that makes total sense of the schools stance.
If this was a child who was working hard behaving well and on track for stellar grades school would be bending over backwards to keep them

You clearly have NOT read the OP's posts where she explained that this boy is a good student and has no attendance issues.

Allthefruit · 18/09/2025 21:29

XelaM · 18/09/2025 21:25

You clearly have NOT read the OP's posts where she explained that this boy is a good student and has no attendance issues.

Oh I have, but I am just looking at the whole picture

Springhare76 · 18/09/2025 21:34

Allthefruit · 18/09/2025 21:22

I've read the thread.
Others have alluded to other threads where op children have behaviour/attendance issues. And that makes total sense of the schools stance.
If this was a child who was working hard behaving well and on track for stellar grades school would be bending over backwards to keep them

"Others" were so stupid they couldn't read properly.

He doesn't have any attendance issues. Maybe 2 sick days in the last year. Not that that has anything to do with it. Better not to comment than to make moronic comments.

If anyone is every considering sending their kids to private school then don't bother! This situation is a perfect example of how you get screwed over. 10k a term from the salary that has been taxed at 45% to have a headteacher kill off a massive opportunity for my son, against the parents wishing. Fuming. I actually don't think I can let him continue at this school after this.

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cauliflowerry · 18/09/2025 21:38

OP it’s absolutely rubbish for your son ! Would the school feel differently if it was Rugby , Cricket and opportunity to be in a West End Show? Is snobbery involved because it’s football? That is what I would be asking!

tripleginandtonic · 18/09/2025 21:39

Springhare76 · 18/09/2025 21:34

"Others" were so stupid they couldn't read properly.

He doesn't have any attendance issues. Maybe 2 sick days in the last year. Not that that has anything to do with it. Better not to comment than to make moronic comments.

If anyone is every considering sending their kids to private school then don't bother! This situation is a perfect example of how you get screwed over. 10k a term from the salary that has been taxed at 45% to have a headteacher kill off a massive opportunity for my son, against the parents wishing. Fuming. I actually don't think I can let him continue at this school after this.

Of course you can get him continue OP, getting his gcses is the most important thing. Honestly, if he's talented enough to get offered the trial he'll get offered other opportunities.

Finallybreathingout · 18/09/2025 21:42

Allthefruit · 18/09/2025 21:29

Oh I have, but I am just looking at the whole picture

Are you? Are you an expert?

I have one child who can’t set foot in a school and has to be educated online, and one who loves school and can’t wait to be there every day. What’s my ‘whole picture’?

Tiswa · 18/09/2025 21:59

How does he feel though @Springhare76 is this truly worth going nuclear over and potentially disrupting his future with his friends and when he takes his GCSEs

because I went to DD year 12 information evening and was told that gcse grades are more and more being looked at now for apprenticeship and university applications as the are getting more competitive

I know we have clashed on this but I do agree the headteacher is wrong to block and where it not for the fact that the school have to sign off on it my recommendation would just be to have unauthorised absence and accept any fine etc that came with that

But it does come down to what your son wants and for his future and what is worth sacrificing

Plus given that most expect a terms notice and you potentially owe fees for next term.

so talk to your son with a honest assessment of what the risks and consequences are. My advice see it through the GCSEs and look at options beyond that there are sixth form programmes out there Fulham/Man City/Sunderland in a quick search all offer something I am sure you could narrow it down geographically and see what is there

Spideralert · 18/09/2025 22:08

Springhare76 · 18/09/2025 21:34

"Others" were so stupid they couldn't read properly.

He doesn't have any attendance issues. Maybe 2 sick days in the last year. Not that that has anything to do with it. Better not to comment than to make moronic comments.

If anyone is every considering sending their kids to private school then don't bother! This situation is a perfect example of how you get screwed over. 10k a term from the salary that has been taxed at 45% to have a headteacher kill off a massive opportunity for my son, against the parents wishing. Fuming. I actually don't think I can let him continue at this school after this.

What does your son want to do?

I think it’s unfortunate there’s a head like this, but could have been state or private. Some people in the world are just like that.

XelaM · 18/09/2025 22:59

Spideralert · 18/09/2025 22:08

What does your son want to do?

I think it’s unfortunate there’s a head like this, but could have been state or private. Some people in the world are just like that.

But at a state school you're not paying for the privilege.

Spideralert · 18/09/2025 23:06

@XelaMtrue

Fruitlips · 19/09/2025 05:31

So within 24/48 hours of the training commencing, the club have increased the time from 2 mornings to 1 full day and a 1 morning? bit shitty of them.

OP, start looking for online schooling option. This head isn’t going to budge, and the club hasn’t exactly helped matters by increasing the training commitment at such short notice

Fruitlips · 19/09/2025 05:33

Springhare76 · 18/09/2025 21:34

"Others" were so stupid they couldn't read properly.

He doesn't have any attendance issues. Maybe 2 sick days in the last year. Not that that has anything to do with it. Better not to comment than to make moronic comments.

If anyone is every considering sending their kids to private school then don't bother! This situation is a perfect example of how you get screwed over. 10k a term from the salary that has been taxed at 45% to have a headteacher kill off a massive opportunity for my son, against the parents wishing. Fuming. I actually don't think I can let him continue at this school after this.

to be fair OP, as referred to upthread, you have posted in the past about concern about your son being allowed to return to the school this school year for year 11? So not totally unreasonable for posters to speculate that the head may be looking for a way out

Fruitlips · 19/09/2025 05:34

Springhare76 · 18/09/2025 21:34

"Others" were so stupid they couldn't read properly.

He doesn't have any attendance issues. Maybe 2 sick days in the last year. Not that that has anything to do with it. Better not to comment than to make moronic comments.

If anyone is every considering sending their kids to private school then don't bother! This situation is a perfect example of how you get screwed over. 10k a term from the salary that has been taxed at 45% to have a headteacher kill off a massive opportunity for my son, against the parents wishing. Fuming. I actually don't think I can let him continue at this school after this.

I have two at private
and I’d climb over broken glass to keep them there. Superb experience, education, facilities, pastoral care and…. Head.

Theroadt · 19/09/2025 06:27

Luxio · 15/09/2025 14:51

If he's just started year 11 shouldn't he be focusing on his GCSEs instead of football?

This. And what anout the work he will miss - are you expecting teachers to help him catch up? Why is he attending the school anyway if you want him to miss 25% of it?

Theroadt · 19/09/2025 06:28

Theroadt · 19/09/2025 06:27

This. And what anout the work he will miss - are you expecting teachers to help him catch up? Why is he attending the school anyway if you want him to miss 25% of it?

Sorry 20%

LlynTegid · 19/09/2025 07:41

Pure speculation I know, but I do wonder if the club concerned may be a factor in the head's decision. If he has a football club he follows, the club for your son is a rival or some existing hatred by their fans.

Unprofessional were that the case.

DublinLaLaLa · 19/09/2025 07:41

XelaM · 17/09/2025 23:33

I don't think this warrants a response 🙄

Messi/Ronaldo/Mbappe - maybe add Maradona and Pele to the list? 🤣

I speak from a place of some experience. I’m no expert but my brother was with a premiership club until he was 18 and made a career out of lower league football. I know he did not miss any school - and nor would my parents have let him.

Tiswa · 19/09/2025 08:12

Homeschool needs sign off from the LA and online school still will have attendance things - looked at it once it is as strict about attending as any other school and would still need to sign off if the club requires a signature
you (rightly) can’t just pull your child out of school in year 11 unnoticed

if the head doesn’t sign off then the opportunity has gone and any leaving is a knee jerk reaction - presumably the child has friends etc.

loads of clubs now do great 16-18 opportunities designed to see you into a career in football in some way (which I think the OP indicated was the realistix future plan) and get to see how it works in a premier league club plus get an education that is what they should be looking at now

Finallybreathingout · 19/09/2025 08:23

Tiswa · 19/09/2025 08:12

Homeschool needs sign off from the LA and online school still will have attendance things - looked at it once it is as strict about attending as any other school and would still need to sign off if the club requires a signature
you (rightly) can’t just pull your child out of school in year 11 unnoticed

if the head doesn’t sign off then the opportunity has gone and any leaving is a knee jerk reaction - presumably the child has friends etc.

loads of clubs now do great 16-18 opportunities designed to see you into a career in football in some way (which I think the OP indicated was the realistix future plan) and get to see how it works in a premier league club plus get an education that is what they should be looking at now

Online schools though are far far more flexible about how you learn - lessons can be recorded, timetables moved around. And they are set up to work around other things like this. So long as they know why you aren’t in a live lesson it’s fine.

Fruitlips · 19/09/2025 08:33

A sociable, sporty, popular 15 year old boy (I have one!) suddenly doing online home schooling…. Shit. Show. It would be AWFUL for my boy, me and the family

Finallybreathingout · 19/09/2025 08:40

Fruitlips · 19/09/2025 08:33

A sociable, sporty, popular 15 year old boy (I have one!) suddenly doing online home schooling…. Shit. Show. It would be AWFUL for my boy, me and the family

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Has anyone suggested he should?

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