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ds is not good at art - now becoming noticeable - help!!

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zebramummy · 27/11/2009 21:36

i need a strategy to improve ds' mark-making asap per his nursery report.

i never meant to compare him to his class mates at nursery but their pictures appear to resemble trees, people etc. ds is 4.4 but his art skills have actually gone backwards if anything. he only brought one picture home this term and nothing of his has ever been put up for display at nursery (yes, i do this at home before you ask)

i was apparently so good at his age that my nursery school teacher (a trained artist herself) predicted that i would also become an artist one day (i did not do this though remained quite good). i don't expect him to be that good; just able enough to colour the right bits of the picture in suitable colours and try to keep within outlines. his interest in writing has gone the same way too.

is there anything i can do to remedy the situation? so far, i have made available to him every medium under the sun to try out his 'ideas' - finger paints, glitter glue, crayons, chalks, all manner of paper and card.

he loves playdough though uses it more for imaginative play rather than for model-making. likes gloop, clay, helping with cooking but has had no cross-impact.

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eidsvold · 08/12/2009 09:14

if his nursery and what is happening is not the way you would 'educate' him as the primary educator of his life - why is he in nursery??

tbh - lots of tertiary qualifications does not make you a person with common sense nor likable just educated.

pagwatch · 08/12/2009 09:40

I wish this could go in Classics.

I will have to print it out when it dies.

All the years I fretted about whether I was a good enough parent and now, at last, proof there is something worse than worrying about not being good enough....

MollieO · 08/12/2009 10:20

To the OP - I do think you may be better off considering HE otherwise you are setting yourself up for continual disappointment. At least with HE you can control precisely what your ds learns and when. I sense that may make you happier and you will be able to develop fully all your ds's many talents.

As a WOHM I do take an interest in my ds's homework when I can be bothered and I know he appreciates our occasional contact. However my education and my bank balance both limit my ability to HE which, from what you say, yours clearly doesn't.

sb6699 · 08/12/2009 12:21

Okay, from her last post, I am now of the opinion that is a wind up - nice one ZM.

Georgimama · 08/12/2009 12:43

Honestly, she's not on a wind up, unless all her other threads are wind ups too.

OooohWhatAFuss · 08/12/2009 15:27

Oooooh, don't stop! Come back everyone, this is entertaining! Obviously I cannot comment on the OP as it is clearly bonkers but love hearing other more witty individuals battle it out, with or without degrees etc to support them . (I apparently fall into the catagory of pleb- how I have too missed that word- and wish to learn how to be a better parent)

HeiligFeierabend · 08/12/2009 19:28

'i can see why i would be seen as public enemy number one as soon as i related you to my fortunate circumstances'

ROFL

Anyone else thinking Oedipus by the way???

Goblinchild · 08/12/2009 19:38

"i am an oxbridge double first with several postgrad and prof 'letters' after my name"

So is my husband. He's crap with children though.
Now they're teens, they tolerate him very nicely though.

SofaQueen · 09/12/2009 06:15

Wow, this thread had certainly degenerated. I didn't read it earlier because I thought that it was a bit precious to worry about such a insignificant thing (at least in my personal experience), and just clicked on it because I was wondering why it would still be around.

It sound like zebramummy might need a thicker skin, something I'm surprised she hasn't acquired if she has been here for a ling time. Some of the earlier comments were uncalled for, and she reacted badly to them and things quickly avalanched from there.

I suppose I need to give my qualifications if I am to be taken seriously: Ivy League university, Ivy League medical school, SAHM, "gifted" artistically (I was in a university art program in high school), family background filled with artists/architects. OK - do I get a pass?

Art is obviously very important to me and the thing I was most excited about when DS1 was a toddler was doing art projects with him. I went to ELC and purchased almost everything they had in terms of art supplies when he was 20 months old. I put the smock on him, poured out the painted into their little pots and put a different paintbrush in each pot. I was so dismayed when ds came over took one brush, made one gigantic blob then placed this brush into the wrong pot and made another blob. At this point, the novelty wore off and he lost interest. I tried several other times, then gave up.

DS1 started afternoon nursery at 2 and a half. His artworks consistently were limited to 1 blob of 1-2 colours, unlike some of the more colourful, formed works of his peers. However, I didn't care. I simply accepted that are wasn't his thing, and it was more important to me to follow the interests of DS, and encourage him to develop HIS strengths, not mine.

His artwork continued in this level through the rest of nursery, and was about the same through most of Reception. However, something happened in Reception, and towards the end, he started to become very interested in drawing, adding detail and colour, and will on his own sit and created extremely detailed artworks. In fact, at our most recent teacher meeting, his teacher commented on how much DS enjoyed creating his drawings and how he gets so absorbed in them that he doesn't hear her!

What happened? Well, I let DS pursue his own interests, which led to Lego. He loved (not in the beginning - but after about 2 years of casually playing with them) creating his own models. As he got older, his models go increasingly complex, and his love of creating spread to paper.

Great art (as is greatness in all areas) is about seeing the world in a different manner - what is commonly called creativity. Creativity, rather than fine motor skills, is the most important thing to encourage at this age. Part of the reason why DS1 didn't show much interest earlier in creating works of art was that his fine motor skills just weren't there. You can't force creativity, and it is easily squashed.

In terms of appreciation of art history, well he will acquire this simply by being in an environment where it is important. You don't need to push this.

cory · 09/12/2009 08:08

This is a very good account of how things work when they are working well, SofaQueen. Good on you for having been able to encourage your ds in a non-pressurising way.

Sometimes I think you can end up waiting a long time before it becomes apparent that the early environment has had an impact. Two of my brothers showed very little interest in the world of literature and music provided by my parents- but now that they are adults it is clear that they took in a lot more than anyone realised at the time. So patience paid off.

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pagwatch · 09/12/2009 08:48

Riven
I did that with DS1 and washing.... he finally embraced the whole face cloth and deodorant thing when he got a girlfriend at 15

sarah293 · 09/12/2009 08:50

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pagwatch · 09/12/2009 08:53
Grin
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alypaly · 09/12/2009 08:58

my sons pictures were dreadful at four years old. When he drew me ,it was a circle with arms and legs sticking out like stick men,but my arme and legs came out of my head.

I wouldnt worry about it,hes not going to be van gogh at 4 and he needs chance to develop fine motor skills. Boys are more often slower than girls. But ,DS1 is very academic,does creative writing and is now dtudying pharmacy with a view to an extra diploma next year....dont put pressure on him otherwise it will make him worry that he is not living up to your expextations.

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