SATS

[Munchathon]

Hi all, other than trying to cobble together a list of the spelling list by asking our children and other parents, does anyone know when the spelling test will be released?

Thanks

With regard to progress 8 I don't see how SATs can help in terms of kids already have places at senior school.Also whilst I agree it's good for kids to get used to testing any teacher worth their salt knows the ability of the child and often it's that rather than a SATs score that informs the secondary school.

It also feels like there’s this new attitude that we shouldn’t be discussing/celebrating academic achievements nowadays. While I completely agree that academics and exam results aren’t the be all and end all, they are still important 🤷🏻‍♀️.
Academics are my daughter’s ‘thing’. She works really bloody hard, harder than any other child I know. She’s constantly curious, questioning things, reading, reasoning, learning. If she can’t do something, she’ll keep trying until she can. So yes, exams are important to her, and therefore to us. We don’t put any pressure on her but we absolutely support her with developing her learning.

Agreed. It won’t be for everyone but I don’t see any harm in encouraging extra work so they feel prepared and confident going into any test. If anything, this should help take some anxiety away.

My son was absolutely buzzing that one of the words came up in the reading paper that we went through the day before. He then declared he’s really pleased he spent some time doing some revision and that he feels like his work has paid off. His teachers had expressly said at parents evening that they wanted to see more effort from him as he is more capable than he was showing in his work.

If you child goes into secondary school at GD, the secondary school will need to maintain that trajectory or it would negatively effect their progress 8 score. So in a big state school where an average child might get lost in the system, if they have gone into secondary school at GD, the secondary school might need to pay more attention to that child to make sure they can plug the gaps or offer some additional support. I may be completely wrong but that’s how I understood it. Equally, if someone goes in at expected but it capable of getting a lot higher, they are more likely to push that child to get them a higher grade so their progress 8 score will be higher.

@Munchathon that’s great he felt like his revision paid off. Bless him. Let’s all keep fingers crossed for them coming out of the maths today feeling good!

Agreed. There is almost outrage at the idea of some kids doing a bit of extra work and parents helping/encouraging. I want him to foster a growth mindset.

At least with maths they know what they are getting. I just hope no child accidentally misses questions because the pages are stuck together. My friend's daughter was distraught a few years ago when the kids were discussing questions after and she had no idea what they were talking about. So I made sure to remind my son of that - he said that happened to him with his spag. He only realised as he had time to go back and check his answers.

This week feels like it has been dragging on.

They are not ‘young’ kids they are 10/11 some of them with quite the know it all attitude as well
our kids do tests every year at some point
( PIRA & PUMA )
Although the practice for sats has been a bit ott this year

How did everyone’s kids find the maths today?

Not sure they do extra after school in preparation for tomorrow so yet to pick son up.

Just picked up DD & friends who have found the whole thing super easy compared to the 11+ exams they sat before Christmas, and are reporting that the papers have been easier than the mocks so far. They seems to be having a really fun week!?

DS said they were fine.

Mine said she thinks she got 100% on arithmetic and maybe dropped one mark on reasoning. She’s also said she thinks they’ve been far easier than mocks so far.

i guess the concern if everyone thinks it was easy is that they make the GD boundary harder, so for those making silly mistakes there might not be much wriggle room.

Sats is a walk in the park compared to 11+. My eldest said Sats week was one of his best weeks of primary school. He loves a test and said the rest of the days were fun.

Which mocks is she comparing them to?

I assume all the past papers she’s done at school. They had official ‘mocks’ before Easter but I don’t know what papers they used. She thinks last years.

Lol my reply same as yours .There be high scores this time . Surprised they haven't made them moderately hard at least .

My child thought Monday and Tuesday were ok.
Today's was hard

It's just all relative isn't it

Also mine said one of the reasoning tried to catch him out but he went back and did it ok at the end .

I believe last year there were complaints over tricks in the maths papers. So maybe they made it a bit easier this year. Or maybe tomorrows will be harder.

Any child doing the 11+ is likely to be 'more able', so it surely isn't surprising they are finding SATs (which are aimed at the whole cohort not just the top 25% or less) relatively easy.

You can see why MN tends to not get many parents of lower achievers on these kind of threads (and it continues up to the GCSE threads too) when there are comments about the tests not being 'moderately hard at least'.

Point taken didn't mean any offence by it .

Thanks @Darren2134 .

I think it is easy for parents of more able children to not realise the impact they have on parents of lower achievers. And it does continue on to the GCSE threads where parents will insist on writing what their DC are predicted (and somehow it is always grades 7-9) when it isn't really relevant etc. It is off-putting to parents of average achievers (eg those expecting 100-105 in SATs) and to those whose DC struggle even more.

Sorry, don't mean to kill the thread. Feel free to continue saying how your DC found it and the week. Mine is doing GCSE maths (again) tomorrow, so I'm a bit sensitive.