school overstepping ?

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So my daughter is due to start reception in September, she is currently at private nursery. I have just found out that the school have arranged for someone from the school to visit my child at her nursery, i have not had the school she will be attending call or email me to ask if this is ok and the nursery have not contacted me to ask if this would be ok there end etc…. i’m feeling a little irritated that i have not been informed or asked if this was ok, of course it would have been if i had been asked as i understand why they do this, but to not even be in the loop of what is happening with my child has left me a little upset and i want to make a complaint but first want to make sure i’m not overreacting to the situation, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

@Janiie if a childminder is OFSTED registered, known to the school and has a number of children going into that Reception year cohort then it is possible a teacher may visit them. But with the likely number of children involved due to ratios it probably would just be a potential home visit. But they should get records from the childminder

@Janiie if a child doesn't attend a nursery or any other daycare setting then yes they would be visited at home but the parent/carer would be contacted in advance to make sure they are at home.
But if a child is in a nursery or daycare setting then it's pretty much guaranteed they will be there between 9 and 3 so they don't need a arrange an "appointment" as such.
You actually sound a bit paranoid tbh.

I'm not remotely paranoid but if school are doing official visits to private childcare settings to assess/ review/whatever they are doing there then it should be with parental consent and awareness.

@Janiie when you agree to send your child to school you agree that any official previous educational setting will send records/discuss child to the next educational setting.

And school records are kept at latest establishment until child is 25

@Janiie maybe they don't think they need to inform parents in advance because it's just such a basic and normal part of the starting school routine.

This would aggravate me aswell op. Why on earth wouldn’t they mention it to you - the parent!? Seems rather stupid and I would want to be present so I’d be asking for details.

Well, surely it’s the nursery’s responsibility to inform you, if it’s anyone’s? As you say, your child isn’t in school yet so it would make more sense for the nursery to liaise with their parents. The school will have arranged this with nursery it’s not as if they sprung it on nursery unannounced.

anyway, I think it’s fine, it’s normal
practice, it’s not a formal assessment or anything really beyond seeing the environment the child has been in and meeting their key worker. Don’t forget, some of the useful info is background context as to - have they been in a small quiet nursery with only a few kids, were they in a large multi room place with lots of different staff. It helps receiving school understand your child better e.g if they are overwhelmed when they first start, reception teacher may put it in the context of their nursery experience etc etc.

so strange to kick off about professionals wanting to do a good job. (Said with the weary experience of being a professional trying to do a good job)

You'd want to be present??? I think you've missed the whole point of the visit.

Bit of a derail but why are schools visiting kids before they start at all? Surely there is some sort of induction day or settling in morning etc. What is the purpose of the visit?? I’m baffled by this. We live in France and I can deffo say this does not happen here and people would feel it’s an overstep and a waste of resources!

How did you find out? If the visit has not yet happened surely you can casually ask if one will? Seems very normal and beneficial.

I deffo can’t see the point of it?! Is it to see how confident the child is? So they wouldn’t want parents there??

If you can't see the point in it I would suggest reading the thread. The benefits have been explained in lots of detail by lots of knowledgeable posters already.

It is to observe and find out how a child copes within a group setting, without parent to lead them or speak for them.

@babyproblems the parents don't need to be present.
They already met the teacher with their child.
This will be more of a handover of information from the nursery to school but with a little bit of the new teacher seeing the child in their regular setting and maybe (but not always) having a chat or playing a game with the child.
It is no big deal. Seriously.

@babyproblems there will likely be a day this term when they can go in for a few hours (usually all pupils try out the class they are going into next year). Then in September they may have a a staggered start to break them in. Sometimes the teacher will visit child at home to see them in their comfort zone and do they can meet the teacher. Teacher may also visit childcare setting to speak to key workers and see the child in that environment

@babyproblems there can also be certain toys that a child is obsessed with and always wants to play with but they don't have those at home.
My daughter used to love play kitchens and a play office and would play with them over and over at nursery.
We didn't have those at home due to lack of space.
We also didn't have a climbing frame (that she couldn't climb because "I too little") and a water play trough and a wooden playhouse and a smart screen and the tandem trike that she got the boys to ride her around in like she was the queen.....
Nursery child can often be very different to home child and when with their parents will naturally be different (ie getting mum to speak for them at home).
It's a lovely way really to see a child in their daily environment before they enter school.

Anyone who doesn’t understand why there is a recruitment and retention crisis in teaching only needs to read this thread.

Schools do this all the time. Secondaries as well. Parents not informed - why should they be, it's about introducing the school to the pupils who will be going next term? Primaries may tell parents that secondary school teachers will be in - but I have never heard it to be so (and I have done the visits). Nurseries ditto. What is there to complain about? Several children from this nursery are presumably to attend the primary, not just your DD.

Oh stop being so dramatic. I'm not criticising teachers in schools just pointing out that if they do official visits of kids in private settings they should notify parents.

They spend half their working lives sending out emails and info of inconsequential stuff so something like this you'd think would be worthy of a memo.

My school always visits each child in their nursery setting, if at one, and speaks to their key workers.
They also do home visits for every child.

Parents aren't involved in the nursery visits.

We've done it for years.
My own daughter's school did nursery visits too, some 18 years ago.

I think you better try and relax before she starts school! You will need to get used to not being told every little thing that goes on.

Why would u want to be present? You gonna sit beside your child all the way through school?

@Janiie but if they don’t actually end up speaking to your child as spend time with the key worker why would they have to notify the parent?

Any official person visiting my kids in a separate facility in an official capacity I'd want notifying.

This didn't happen when ours were little, I'd have caused a stink if it had. You can't say oh we can't put suncream on without a parents consent! on one hand then go visiting pre schoolers in a private setting without telling parents on another .