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cax · 27/06/2024 20:19

So my daughter is due to start reception in September, she is currently at private nursery. I have just found out that the school have arranged for someone from the school to visit my child at her nursery, i have not had the school she will be attending call or email me to ask if this is ok and the nursery have not contacted me to ask if this would be ok there end etc…. i’m feeling a little irritated that i have not been informed or asked if this was ok, of course it would have been if i had been asked as i understand why they do this, but to not even be in the loop of what is happening with my child has left me a little upset and i want to make a complaint but first want to make sure i’m not overreacting to the situation, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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crumblingschools · 28/06/2024 18:28

@Janiie how do you it didn’t happen? But why do you need notifying, what do you do with that information?

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 18:29

@Janiie Ofsted also visit private nurseries - sometimes without advance warning so they can't tell parents in advance.
Sometimes they might - shock horror 😱 - talk to your child 🤣

WiseBiscuit · 28/06/2024 18:29

Janiie · 28/06/2024 18:27

Any official person visiting my kids in a separate facility in an official capacity I'd want notifying.

This didn't happen when ours were little, I'd have caused a stink if it had. You can't say oh we can't put suncream on without a parents consent! on one hand then go visiting pre schoolers in a private setting without telling parents on another .

It will be in the admissions policy. The onus is on parents to actually read it.

crumblingschools · 28/06/2024 18:31

@Janiie some nurseries/schools will have external agencies come in to check their processes, other than OFSTED eg NSPCC., H&S. They too may speak to your child, without you being notified

cax · 28/06/2024 18:32

Procrastinates · 27/06/2024 21:12

Agreed. I suspect another parent mentioned it would be happening soon as she's had a child already start at the school so done it before. Although she probably mentioned it as casual conversation and wouldn't have bothered if she'd known the OP would be so weird about it.

No you are both wrong my child did mention it she’s autistic and has Aspergers and is highly aware the teacher from school came over to talk to her and said i am your new teacher.

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crumblingschools · 28/06/2024 18:32

Or from other schools/nurseries to peer review their processes/curriculum.

lemming40 · 28/06/2024 18:33

This is common practice. You're being way OTT.

crumblingschools · 28/06/2024 18:34

@cax is that all she said? Is that a problem?

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 18:37

@cax I still don't see the problem.
I also find it strange you use the term "Aspergers" for a 4 year old because no one in a medical or education setting uses that phrase anymore.
I'm now wondering if your are just stirring 🤔

C152 · 28/06/2024 18:38

I think it's weird (although acknowledge others comments that this is normal in England) and I think it's yet another example of the generally poor communication from schools. It's not difficult to put 2 sentences in the newsletter/online platform stating, 'to make the transition from nursery to primary school easier, the reception teacher from x primary school will be visiting class x for an hour on x date.'

Procrastinates · 28/06/2024 18:39

cax · 28/06/2024 18:32

No you are both wrong my child did mention it she’s autistic and has Aspergers and is highly aware the teacher from school came over to talk to her and said i am your new teacher.

She's autistic? Surely you'd be even more bloody delighted that they were really concentrating on getting her transition right and making the whole process much smoother? Honestly some people are never bloody satisfied.

EarthlyNightshade · 28/06/2024 18:44

Janiie · 28/06/2024 18:11

Oh stop being so dramatic. I'm not criticising teachers in schools just pointing out that if they do official visits of kids in private settings they should notify parents.

They spend half their working lives sending out emails and info of inconsequential stuff so something like this you'd think would be worthy of a memo.

I'd be prepared to bet that they did send an email or at least direct OP (and all new parents) to relevant part of website containing the transition information. Just because OP says they didn't, doesn't mean they didn't.

cax · 28/06/2024 18:56

EarthlyNightshade · 28/06/2024 18:44

I'd be prepared to bet that they did send an email or at least direct OP (and all new parents) to relevant part of website containing the transition information. Just because OP says they didn't, doesn't mean they didn't.

i will take that bet as i have been through emails junk folder and any paper work, and it definitely does not state any visit.

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Procrastinates · 28/06/2024 18:59

cax · 28/06/2024 18:56

i will take that bet as i have been through emails junk folder and any paper work, and it definitely does not state any visit.

Why would you search through all the emails. You say the visits happened and your child was fine with it. What's the point in proving you didn't get an email. Its just as likely that they told you when she visited the school or it was in some of the new starter info or maybe you're right and they didn't tell you at all but seriously why does it matter?

Janiie · 28/06/2024 19:00

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 18:29

@Janiie Ofsted also visit private nurseries - sometimes without advance warning so they can't tell parents in advance.
Sometimes they might - shock horror 😱 - talk to your child 🤣

Ofsted are supposed to visit all child care settings it is their job. If school think it's beneficial for them to nose into nurseries then fine, but again they should inform parents.

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 19:02

@Janiie it's also part of a teachers job to meet children before they start school 🙄
Seriously....this is normal !
Perhaps you need to remove your child from state education and home educate if you don't like how these perfectly normal things work.

EarthlyNightshade · 28/06/2024 19:06

cax · 28/06/2024 18:56

i will take that bet as i have been through emails junk folder and any paper work, and it definitely does not state any visit.

OK, fair enough, that's quite unusual then and I would raise it with the school.
My DC were both visited in nursery but we were aware it was happening because it said that in the transition information we were given.
It might be an oversight on the part of the school.
It wouldn't bother me in the slightest but it clearly bothers you so maybe best if they spell it out more clearly for future reception children.
Were the nursery surprised they came in without your consent?

cax · 28/06/2024 19:14

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 18:37

@cax I still don't see the problem.
I also find it strange you use the term "Aspergers" for a 4 year old because no one in a medical or education setting uses that phrase anymore.
I'm now wondering if your are just stirring 🤔

no i’m quoting what was on her medical record from the peadiatritions, i know cahms are different now.

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MadMadaMim · 28/06/2024 19:16

YABVVU

You want to complain because the school your child is going to is taking an interest and doing whatever they can to be prepared for the new cohort joining them in a few months

People really do complain about anything and everything!

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 19:17

@cax that actually shocks me if your doctor used that term.
Very outdated term - especially for a child who could only been diagnosed in the last year or two.
(It's not relevant to this thread really - but that I find more shocking than your child's future teacher popping in for a handover session)

Janiie · 28/06/2024 19:19

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 19:02

@Janiie it's also part of a teachers job to meet children before they start school 🙄
Seriously....this is normal !
Perhaps you need to remove your child from state education and home educate if you don't like how these perfectly normal things work.

Yes meet before they start school but tell the parents! It is courtesy and should be obvious you don't go into privately paid childcare settings without seeking parental permission.

Ours were in preschool nursery joined reception so this wasn't required thank God. I'd have soon chased them if it was. Transition is a big enough palaver as it is.

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 19:19

@cax the term was officially "retired" from official use in 2013. Your child was born (i assume) in 2019.
I am really surprised if that's on her medical records.

crumblingschools · 28/06/2024 19:20

@Janiie they are doing it to help children’s transition. You would be one strange parent to not want that for your child

Needmorelego · 28/06/2024 19:20

@Janiie ok that's your opinion.
It's rather over the top and dramatic though - in my humble opinion 🤣

Janiie · 28/06/2024 19:20

crumblingschools · 28/06/2024 19:20

@Janiie they are doing it to help children’s transition. You would be one strange parent to not want that for your child

They should tell parents. What is so hard to understand about this?