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What would happen if a child didn't want to do their work?

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Classof2032 · 29/04/2016 18:16

Basically that. My 5 year old was kept in at playtime and lost all of her Golden Time today. I feel it was extremely harsh and has the obvious side effect of her deciding that she doesn't like her teacher any more.

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mrz · 02/05/2016 18:32

As far as I know there was an incident in November when the OPs child hit another child and the refusal to do what the teacher asked in April ? Are you aware of more incidents?
This doesn't seem to be the profile of a struggling child

mrz · 02/05/2016 18:34

I would expect a child who is struggling to have multiple incidents every day not two in six months.

LagerthaSilverHair · 02/05/2016 18:39

No, she does not, necessarily, have to seek alternative schooling, sally.

If the sanctions delivered to the OP's daughter are inappropriate, ineffective or detrimental, due to this child's educational needs, then the school will have to modify their approach, in order to meet those educational needs. All children have a right to an appropriate education and the school has to make reasonable adjustments and be actively seen to make adjusted provision, where appropriate, to cater for additional educational needs and disabilities, by law.

LagerthaSilverHair · 02/05/2016 18:43

mrz we do not know how many incidents there have been.The OP might have been scared away from posting, after some of the more agressively critical posts aimed at her in November.

mrz · 02/05/2016 19:00

No we don't know do we so perhaps we should reply based on known facts which are that on two occasions the OPs child has missed Goldentime as a consequence of their behaviour and the OP isn't happy with this.

Verbena37 · 02/05/2016 19:04

Each child should in theory have differentiated work and if she is refusing to write or whatever, the task should be made more simple so that she is joining in but with a lot less pressure.

As a parent of a reception or yr 1 child, I'd be very worried if the teacher was punishing with whole playtime missed and all of golden time.......our primary would never do that. Bizarre!

LagerthaSilverHair · 02/05/2016 19:10

mrz if it is genuinely believed to be only two occasions, her child has missed Golden Time, why are more posters not posting in order to reassure the OP that most children test boundaries occasionally at school and her daughter's upset will be short lived? Instead of criticising the OP's parenting and giving woeful predictions of her daughter's future?

melonribena · 02/05/2016 19:18

Verbena, but we don't know that the child refused as she found the work challenging? Children in my class ask for help rather than refuse to do work that proves a challenge.

CodyKing · 02/05/2016 19:30

Op types I will not tell my child that she needs to do everything an adult tells her.

That is very telling about the parents approach to school.

CodyKing · 02/05/2016 19:31

but I genuinely don't see why an adult should force a child to do something they don't want to

LagerthaSilverHair · 02/05/2016 19:32

Cody no it is not. It could simply mean the OP is careful regarding what she tells her, so as not to leave her daughter open to abuse.

CodyKing · 02/05/2016 19:35

Because teachers asking children to complete their work is abuse?

LagerthaSilverHair · 02/05/2016 19:36

Cody in what way are teachers allowed to actually "force a child to do something they don't want to", barring an emergency situation which endangers a child's own or other's safety?

LagerthaSilverHair · 02/05/2016 19:39

Cody no of course asking a child to their complete work is not abuse. No where have I said this. Forcing, in some way, is another matter, since the child might have a genuine difficulty in completing the work.

mrz · 02/05/2016 19:44

Lager from what I've read on this thread many posters seem to be more familiar with the poster than you or I.

CodyKing · 02/05/2016 19:46

They don't have to force children - particularly the precious children who don't want to.

They could walk away and say "Dont bother"

They could chivvy, help, explain etc and if met with continual resistance - request the child makes up the time - and we don't know if the child did finish - maybe she did

But - I do know that teachers work hard - they have targets to meet and for children to feel confident and happy in school they need parental help - support - backing

For parents to believe they are doing their best by each child in their class - yes they do get it wrong - sometimes - same as parents get it wrong sometimes - we are all human.

It is not unheard of for children to miss breaks

My DD has extra support for literacy - which due to cut backs the teacher supports at lunch time - there's a few of them - she doesn't have to go - the teacher doesn't have to give up her time - but she does -

If my DD misses golden time - she misses it - it happens when the assessments need to be finished and marked - it's not a big deal -

DD doesn't have additional needs - she needs a boost -

melonribena · 02/05/2016 19:49

My 3 year old doesn't want to clean his teeth. I make him for his own sake. I'm the adult and I know best.

5 year olds cannot make decisions about doing and not doing work. They do as they are told as a teacher had their best interests at heart.

clam · 02/05/2016 19:51

Or, of course, it could just be that the child is very used to getting her own way at home, with a parent who concedes and pacifies, and is therefore trying her luck at school. No additional needs, just strong will.

CodyKing · 02/05/2016 19:51

My 3 year old doesn't want to clean his teeth. I make him for his own sake. I'm the adult and I know best.

Does he have addition needs?

melonribena · 02/05/2016 19:52

No, why?

CodyKing · 02/05/2016 19:54

No, why?

Just asking before Lager does Grin

LagerthaSilverHair · 02/05/2016 19:55

So you think they are correct to criticise the OP's parenting or give woeful predictions of her daughter's future, based on 2 known missed Golden Time sessions, mrz? Well that and OP saying she does not teach her daughter to do everything adults tell her, which could, rightly, be to prevent her daughter being open to abuse and not seeing why adults should be forcing children to do something they don't want to, when teachers are not allowed to use force anyway apart from when a child is seriously endangering themeselves or others...Not statements that are particularly controversial IMO.

melonribena · 02/05/2016 19:56

Oh right!! Smile

CodyKing · 02/05/2016 19:56

Anybody else think Lager is the OP?

CodyKing · 02/05/2016 19:57

when teachers are not allowed to use force anyway

Only OP said there was force - probably wasn't

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