What would happen if a child didn't want to do their work?

[Classof2032]

Basically that. My 5 year old was kept in at playtime and lost all of her Golden Time today. I feel it was extremely harsh and has the obvious side effect of her deciding that she doesn't like her teacher any more.

Therefore, she would get a more receptive response if she had come on to ask if anyone could suggest a way forward in helping her child to conform, rather than complaining that the teacher handled it wrongly by not letting her sit with a book rather than do what she'd been asked to do.

No, there have been other posts about the problems the OP is experiencing-such as the teacher not conducting an immediate search for a missing cardi!

"DD had no Golden Time at all today. She had to sit in the classroom with her head on the desk while all of the other children played...
She did hit a little boy but only because he was distracting her from her work. I have asked for her to work in the corridor because she finds the classroom environment stressful, but they said no."

Also said by the OP on the Nov thread.

Anyway, I can't help thinking that if the OP had real concerns that her dd might possibly have some additional needs, she might have come back to this thread, where a couple of people have had some insights to offer on that. I wonder if she's lurking.

clam as I said earlier it can be extremely stressful being forced to consider that your child might have additional needs. Lots of parents describe feelings akin to those in the grief process. Compassion is what is required here. People undergoing stressful and difficult circumstances do not always calmly ask for help, especially if they are been criticised in such an aggressive manner, as the OP has been on this and the Nov thread.

No Lager the post wasn't to you ...wrong place to totally!

OP's child learned a valuable life lesson- actions have consequences.
The teacher doesn't have time to pander to your little darling. She has, probably, 29 other little darlings to consider.
OP you are setting yourself up for heartbreak in the future if you bring your dc up as a 'little emperor'.
Both your heartbreak and the child's.
Who'd want one of those spoilt children visiting.
We can't always do what we want to do in life.
Life is a series of compromises.

They were all 6 months ago, lager. Child may have settled down since then, The chat threads were over 6 months as well.

But this thread is current, bruffin and the problems that are manifesting sound remarkably similar, with the same course of action being taken, unsuccessfully, by the teacher (going from what the OP has said here and before).

OP's child learned a valuable life lesson- actions have consequences

This child does not seem to have learnt, yet holly and as this has been going on from, at least Nov, the teacher's methods of sanctions do not seem to be effective in teaching her. Sadly continual punishments and withdrawal of privileges are the only 'support' given to help children who physiologically struggle to concentrate, control their impulses and fully appreciate 'consequences'. Is it any wonder so many of them end up failing in their education?

Op hasnt said that this is repeatedly happening since last post. The dd described above could just be an only child that is not used to being with other children and having to compete for attention and in the last 7 months will have matured and got used to the situation. We dont know

^that should be 'Sadly, all too often,'. Typo.

I just hope OP has proper meeting with school/teacher and sort out any problems her dd is having, if any, rather than just complain about lost golden time.

bruffin I know where I'd put my money, going from some of the aggressive, outraged responses and berating of the OP from some of the teachers on here.

With attitudes like this being representative of a sector of the teaching profession, it does not suprise me that additional needs get missed and are not catered for at all. If there were a whole host of calm, professional sounding posts which did not automatically berate the OP, but genuinely showed concern for her daughter's problems, I might have felt differently.

Someone has to offer an alternative perspective.

I think the problem is you havent read previous posts and are also projecting too much.
As op has never clearly actually talked abiut her dds problems, just come on here to complain about school, and /or teacher, nobody can help her or her dd.

Can I ask about your expertise in additional needs Lager?

What grounds, has anybody got for berating the OP? Might those posters doing this also be 'projecting'?

All I am advocating is showing some compassion (and some calm professionalism from those in the teaching profession) because it does not take much a stretch of the imagination to think the OP is very worried concerning her daughter's experiences of school, which will be incredibly stressful.

mrz my experiences are irrelevant to this thread. Agree with my points, or not. They stand alone.

They are very relevant to the assertions you are making.

I have made no particular 'assertions', mrz.

What is it about my posts that make you appear to want to seek ways of invalidating them?

Is it so that if I've personal experience, you can say I'm 'projecting', professional, you can claim 'professional bias' or demand to know when and where I've trained or argue over pedagogical perspectives?

You have decided that the OPs child has additional needs (which may or may not be the case - I've only red thiis and the November thread and wouldn't make that assumption on information available) so am I to assume you have expertise in this area?

You have decided that anyone who doesn't see additional needs as a valid excuse for following the rules lacks compassion.
You have decided that a child who, based on lack of complaints from the OP, has managed to control their behaviour for over six months has learnt nothing about consequences of their actions from the sanctions imposed in November.

1- child refuses to do work
2- rest of class observe
3 rest of class see child get away with it and sit having fun while they work
4- next lesson 29 other children refuse to do their work

The op should be supporting the teacher in encouraging her child to work but sanctions must be given or what does that say to the other children?

For refusing to follow rules

mrz no I have not decided the OP's child has additional needs, but have not ruled this out, either.

The lack of compassion is evident due to the aggressively critical posts aimed at the OP, whose child is certainly having some problems conforming to behavioural expectations, concentrating in class and finishing her class work.

A lack of (retrievable) posts from the OP, regarding her daughter's problems at school, does not conclusively indicate her daughter has significantly progressed in her concentration, being able to conform to behavioural expectations or finishing her class work since Nov. Added to this the type of problems posted about appear remarkably similar to those the OP posted about in Nov.

OR

She was tired
Or
Hungry
Or
Possibly I'll
Or - she just didn't want to!

Maybe - just Maybe the teacher followed the school rules - which will be agreed by the head teacher - in that she have consequences.

This is not a new situation - nor does it only apply to this DD - The school has rules - if the OP does not want her DD to follow those rules - she needs to seek alternative schooling -