Question for teachers. If a child has a statement, would you ignore it if you belived it wasn't justified?

[2boysnamedR]

That, in nutshell.

Son has a statement via winning a appeal. Head of village school said I won it as parents have money and the LA doesn't ( not true or fair I feel. In my case I won with no solicitor against the la rep with law degree ( ex legal firm worker).

My sons in a different school so I doubt my head would say this to my face. But. I'm pretty sure they don't agree with the dessision. They do some things really well, other things not so good but overall I get the impression there's bad will that I didn't listen to the school and did this.

If a child had a statement for ASD would / do some teachers think "he's just naughty, he needs a firm hand"

I am not going to judge or bash any ideas. Surely some people must think like this? I don't want to keep banging my head against a brick wall.

Well, many of us seem to be living in Cloud Cuckoo land, you seem to be in LALA land

Charis1 Sun 06-Sep-15 08:30:29
"in cloud cuckoo land spanial eyes"

Finally Charis has told us where she works!

Spanieleyes, it looks to me as if you've summarised the situation 100% accurately.

But if Charis1 says that it does not accord with the reality she knows, perhaps she could tell us where that is. After all, every parent with a child with SEN needs to know so that they can avoid the local authorities in question.

Actually if they genuinely aren't following legal procedure, I agree Charis needs to whistleblow.

A swift call to ofsted would be a good start....

It's the acceptance of bad practice I have the problem with. Realistically bad practice dies exist but unless we challenge it we are part of the problem

Not recognisin bad practice, not promoting good practice and working within the industry. That is utterly baffling.

Agree with lougle.

I have lived in 3 different counties (chasing decent provision for my dd) and in each of them a statement is the entry point for SS. (In one, dd1 could not even go on the waiting list as her statement hadn't been finalised, despite her having severe ASD, and having been issued a statement which we were appealing - no finalised statement, no consideration).

Annual reviews are as previously described (except by Charis!). We get a huge bundle, including reports from her class teacher, an updated IEP, reports from SALT and OT, as well as a general school reports, and progress charts of her achievements in P scales/NC levels. We also now get progress on working towards ASDANs, since she is in secondary. Along with this is a form for us to fill in as parents, giving our views.

Every single document is gone through at annual review. The LA is invited to attend (case officer, ed psych, LA SALT and OT if applicable).

And Charis is saying she goes through all that for children who don't even have a state,net? Bollocks. What LA is going to send representatives to a meeting they don't need to attend (given that they are generally so overstretched they can barely manage to attend the ones they are legally required to).

My ds2's school has the most inefficient SENCO I've ever come across (seriously, no one in the school actually knows what she does - I have yet to meet anyone who has been helped by her) Even she comes across as knowing more about the system than Charis.

I agree that a lot of what Charis has posted is ringing true.

That doesn't mean I think teachers do a poor job, rather that they are overwhelmed with the numbers of children coming into schools with SEN.

My son is autistic, he has additional diagnoses of ADHD, Dyspraxia, Dyslexia and Learning Difficulties.
I have just spent a year watching his academic achievements go backwards rather than forwards as they had been doing. This was because of a move up to Y7 and a huge environment.
Was I pushy as a result? Too damn right I was.

My son starts a specialist speech, language and communication school this coming week.

What I ponder on is the number of children in mainstream schools who are equally floundering and whose parents don't have the confidence or ability to take on the local authority and say "you are not meeting your legal obligations to provide my child with an appropriate education".

I suspect their children are left to flounder.

Alfieisnoisy of course parents have to shout loudly to get the best for their child ...is that pushy? No it's called being a parent! Do you need to be middle class to get the best for your child ? ... No you don't!
Charis is well known for hijacking posts and making ridiculous claims it's quite worrying when people take the posts seriously

Haven't read all of the posts Charis has made here and I have to say I usually disagree with her. It's just that with regard to LA attitudes a lot is ringing true due to underfunding.

We have always had an annual review though and I am not hearing from other parents that their experience is any different to mine.

You don't have to be middle class to get the best but it makes it much easier when you know the words to use.

Charis has stated that three London boroughs are breaking the law by failing to maintain statements and EHCPs ... It's total fantasy!

LEAs don't make it easy for parents but they don't universally flout the law

I have a child with a statement and his mum is unemployed and illiterate ... That's just one example I could give you many more.

I'm sure Charis is correct that some teachers & schools are utterly shite when it comes to special needs. However, she is clearly ignorant of the law & usual practice & therefore I strongly doubt that she is any sort of condultant with any SN experience. (If she is it's frightening)

And I'm currently in the process of applying for a statement for a child whose parents speak no English!
Of course there are crap LAs/schools/head teachers/class teachers/ SENCOs and things can and do go wrong. But Charis seems to be making things up as she goes along and her "experience" doesn't match that of anyone else here!

Charis was claiming to be a SENCO a short time ago ????

The other thing is that legally, a parent doesn't need to give permission for a statement to be made. The LA can make one even if a parent says no.

Is charis confusing a statement with a diagnosis
The idea of her being an SEN consultant would be funny if it wasn't for her posting her nonsense on education boards.

She's on another thread making ignorant statements about ASD and ADHD. I couldn't believe it when I opened this thread to see what she'd posted on here.

of course I'm not confusing statement with diagnosis.

Posts like this make no sense for me charis:

'If a child has a statement, and if the school has access to it...'

In what circumstances wouldn't a school have access to a statement?

There aren't any circumstances when a school wouldn't have access to the statement