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What the fuck are Theriens?

371 replies

Yappucino · 23/07/2024 21:56

My youngest DD (10) has taken a liking to jumping like an animal in the garden, drawing foxes, and wants me to buy her a mask and tail for her 11th birthday. She claims she's a "Therien" and feels like an animal. Apparently a few kids her age have gotten into it.

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marshmallowboy · 26/07/2024 04:58

Well OP @Yappucino At least your question has been answered. Crackers

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 05:06

@marshmallowboy

  1. I don't need to see a doctor
  2. Ok, Northern Rocky Mountain Wolves are one of the biggest subspecies of wolf at around 30ish inches tall
  3. Wolves can also sense storms like elephants and cats
  4. Well cats' whiskers can tell the temperature so it's not EXACTLY the same but I dunno
AccountCreateUsername · 26/07/2024 05:14

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 04:37

@AccountCreateUsername I don't think that's how it works...I don't believe in evolution anyway.

That’s interesting @Wysteria123

Do you believe that human beings are great apes or do you not believe you’re human? Do you believe in hereditary traits / diseases? Or do you not believe humans are apes?

Hope you don’t mind me asking, if you don’t believe in evolution, are there other scientific principles that you also disagree with? I’m curious to know what you think about how we animals have adapted to different habitats.

Thanks for answering btw, I’ve never come across anyone who doesn’t believe in evolution before.

WiddlinDiddlin · 26/07/2024 05:16

A Cross Fox... really, a man made fox subtype? A Scottish Fold, again, a man made selectively bred domestic cat. A locale or subtype of grey wolf... why that one in particular, how would you even know which subtype of wolf you are?

No ones ever anything a bit stinky, slimey or manky are they?

I can see myself as a slug, a sloth, a blobfish... mm. Whats not cool about being the animal you actually are... a human, member of the primate family.

By fuck, I can see the end of our evolutionary branch looming ever closer, and some of our species seem to want to set it on fire.

knitnerd90 · 26/07/2024 05:16

This can really go multiple ways. There's always been children who have played as being cats or elephants or what have you. I know a child who spent a week insisting they were a dog. They were 4 and didn't watch YouTube. Their mum humoured them and they got over it. (If they hadn't, then knowing the mum, she would have done something, but she decided to see if it passed first, and it did.) If they know it's pretend then it's really like any other fantasy play and harmless, just make sure she hasn't got any friends who have been watching dicey things on YouTube.

Furries, by the way (whatever other problematic aspects the culture has) know they're not really wolves or lions. I wouldn't want my younger child getting into it because of the kink aspect of furries, but they grasp the difference between fantasy and reality. (The stories that keep cropping up about litter boxes in schools always turn out to be false and I am convinced at this point that teens know about the stories, so they're wearing cat ears to school and meowing to wind up the teachers.)

Therians and otherkin are another story. This is about believing you essentially are another species. This is impossible. You cannot remember your past life as a dragon because there's no such thing as a dragon. (Also, when people remember their past lives, they were never a peasant who died of malnutrition at a young age.)

It's not like Native spiritual beliefs about animal totems (by the way, North American Indigenous people really hate white people talking about "spirit animals") because again, it's not that you are a wolf or a bear, it's that you have some spiritual connection to them. I am autistic and have 2 autistic children so am very familiar with autism & identity & sexuality issues but I do not think that this is psychologically healthy, and it seems to be one of those recent viral fads (I would not compare it to trans for multiple reasons).

Gettingbysomehow · 26/07/2024 05:23

Dressing up like animals is fine. Pagans have been doing it for centuries and we loved playing at being animals as kids but therians are stark raving bonkers adults. Their you tube videos are nuts and self absorbed rubbish. I would not encourage use of that word in play.

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 05:25

@AccountCreateUsername I believe I am human and I don't believe in evolution (but I'm fully respectful of your beliefs if you do).
@WiddlinDiddlin We figure out our thereotypes mainly through shifts and past memories, and remember we don't choose them, but foxes felines and wolves are the most common ones, though I have a friend whose thereotype is a golden dart frog and a fallow deer.
@knitnerd90 If it's so 'impossible' then how do over 40 million therians worldwide get shifts and past memories, hmm? (I'm also autistic btw 😁)

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · 26/07/2024 05:28

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 05:25

@AccountCreateUsername I believe I am human and I don't believe in evolution (but I'm fully respectful of your beliefs if you do).
@WiddlinDiddlin We figure out our thereotypes mainly through shifts and past memories, and remember we don't choose them, but foxes felines and wolves are the most common ones, though I have a friend whose thereotype is a golden dart frog and a fallow deer.
@knitnerd90 If it's so 'impossible' then how do over 40 million therians worldwide get shifts and past memories, hmm? (I'm also autistic btw 😁)

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Because they are all …….as a box of frogs?

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 05:30

Huh? A box of frogs? What does that mean

StealthSpinach · 26/07/2024 05:33

OP, I do believe Wysteria has graphically demonstrated the level of concern needed when a child identifies within this “concept”.

Wysteria - do you believe in gravity? Or is it just evolution you have decided to refute? What do you believe in as opposed to evolution?

AccountCreateUsername · 26/07/2024 05:34

Thanks @knitnerd90 - interestingly, following on from what you said about Native Americans disliking the appropriation of their culture, I found this old and not very scientific Reddit thread bemoaning the lack of ‘representation’ within the community

https://www.reddit.com/r/Therian/comments/1boj0px/the_representation_issue/

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 05:37

@StealthSpinach Nope, I fully believe in gravity, just not evolution as it hasn't been fully scientifically proven yet and I just don't believe humans evolved from monkeys/apes. After all, then there wouldn't be any of them left because they all evolved into humans. I don't know what alternative could have happened, but then again nobody does. We don't fully know how humanity was created, though there are many theories like God made humans or evolution or even with the Ancient Mayans humans being madeout of maize paste.

PinkyPonkyLittleDonkey · 26/07/2024 05:38

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 05:25

@AccountCreateUsername I believe I am human and I don't believe in evolution (but I'm fully respectful of your beliefs if you do).
@WiddlinDiddlin We figure out our thereotypes mainly through shifts and past memories, and remember we don't choose them, but foxes felines and wolves are the most common ones, though I have a friend whose thereotype is a golden dart frog and a fallow deer.
@knitnerd90 If it's so 'impossible' then how do over 40 million therians worldwide get shifts and past memories, hmm? (I'm also autistic btw 😁)

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Humans are part of the primate family. You do know this right???

Mymanyellow · 26/07/2024 05:38

@Wysteria123 you’re off your fucking head love, go and see someone.

CreamCool · 26/07/2024 05:41

So from that “statement”, we can take it, that it can lead to or manifest itself in mental instability

grinandslothit · 26/07/2024 05:45

Because the exposure to online things and communities that include many groomers and weirdos I would keep an eye on it

About that age, I decided that I wanted to be a horse and pretended I was a horse for maybe a year

I'm an old lady with grandkids now so it did wear off... snorts whinny

serialcatbuyer · 26/07/2024 05:49

WiddlinDiddlin · 26/07/2024 05:16

A Cross Fox... really, a man made fox subtype? A Scottish Fold, again, a man made selectively bred domestic cat. A locale or subtype of grey wolf... why that one in particular, how would you even know which subtype of wolf you are?

No ones ever anything a bit stinky, slimey or manky are they?

I can see myself as a slug, a sloth, a blobfish... mm. Whats not cool about being the animal you actually are... a human, member of the primate family.

By fuck, I can see the end of our evolutionary branch looming ever closer, and some of our species seem to want to set it on fire.

I think only higher animals can be born human in their next life. I've come to that conclusion from my cat acting like a human

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 05:49

@PinkyPonkyLittleDonkey Yep, but that doesn't necessarily mean we evolved from them
@Mymanyellow I'm not 'off my head' as you say, I'm fully aware that people consider therians 'abnormal' but I choose to be myself. Why shouldn't I? You could say life's too short, be yourself. You could also say life's too long, enjoy it as yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4Dpt3dGlTuU

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4Dpt3dGlTuU

SupportRobin · 26/07/2024 05:55

@Wysteria123 I just don't believe humans evolved from monkeys/apes. After all, then there wouldn't be any of them left because they all evolved into humans

We didn't evolve from any of the current families of monkeys or apes, we just had a common ancestor. And the formation of a new species doesn't require that all the old species get replaced by the new one, just that two separate populations of one species evolve to be suited to two different environments, to the point that one group is no longer recognisable as members of the original group, and is counted as a new species. The problem is that this happens over such a long period of the time for most species that we can't observe it happening.

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 06:00

@SupportRobin Thanks for the correction, but it doesn't change my mind about evolution
Or therianthropy for that matter

YellowAsteroid · 26/07/2024 06:05

with mine being Northern Rocky Mountain Wolf, Scottish Fold, Cross Fox and Dragon.

I’m always interested in the way that no one who thinks they’re an animal, or has an animal spirit, or past lives or whatever the latest crazy is - that they’re never a Woodhouse, or channeling the spirit of a slug.

Why is that, I wonder?

YellowAsteroid · 26/07/2024 06:08

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 05:37

@StealthSpinach Nope, I fully believe in gravity, just not evolution as it hasn't been fully scientifically proven yet and I just don't believe humans evolved from monkeys/apes. After all, then there wouldn't be any of them left because they all evolved into humans. I don't know what alternative could have happened, but then again nobody does. We don't fully know how humanity was created, though there are many theories like God made humans or evolution or even with the Ancient Mayans humans being madeout of maize paste.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !

Someone put her fingers in her ears in every science lesson at school!

Grandmasswagbag · 26/07/2024 06:09

I think the fact that teens and older are wanting to play as animals is a devastating symptom of the fact that there are whole generations of people growing up who haven't played as children. A normal childhood involves pretending you are all manners of magical, mythical creatures and animals over many years and just playing, exploring, role play. Most people have outgrown it by the time they're about 12 ! It suggests to me ita a much needed stage that people are missing out on.

Wysteria123 · 26/07/2024 06:10

@YellowAsteroid One of my friends is a golden dart frog and deer therian, another I know is a fly therian, the mammals are just more common ones.

YellowAsteroid · 26/07/2024 06:10

I’m interested - do “therians” hold down jobs or are my taxes paying for crazy?