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Prepping For Pandemic ..... 10

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ItsNotJustTheFuckingFlu · 03/03/2020 19:33

Just quickly starting new thread as @wheresmymoji is busy. Special thanks to @ofwarren for the updates and special thanks from to everyone posting useful info and being supportive.

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Puppycorn · 04/03/2020 21:23

I couldn’t source any zinc lozenges and the ones that are available have just 2 mg.. is that fine?

SharpieInThe · 04/03/2020 21:25

It's in my village now.
Not county, not city, not town. Village.

Keeping children off nursery. I'd rather look a fool than risk my children. I'm the worrier. DH my wonderful counter-balance. He said why risk it, it's here and small kids don't do good hygiene and handwashing.

Fuck it. I'm out. It's too close and I'm scared.

itsnotjustflu · 04/03/2020 21:26

@JustMeAndMyTins I just don't get it either. I thought today would be a turning point for a lot of people....heck even the past 2-3 days but no. Most are still like but it's only flu. I think they just don't watch/read the news. Either that or they are in denial but it's very frustrating and all these people will be the panic buyers

@AlohaMolly A bloody big deal - but all the 'well it's only got a 1% death rate' people will have a smart comment for that I'm sure

@justmeandmytins what is the point of zinc? I need to google

ofwarren · 04/03/2020 21:30

#CANADA: All Nova Scotia schools cancel international trips over #coronavirus concerns.

Boreda · 04/03/2020 21:33

Looks like flybe has just collapsed Sad

JustMeAndMyTins · 04/03/2020 21:35

@ItsNotJustTheFuckingFlu it was a post upthread (maybe thread 9?) where some former(?) expert on coronaviruses wrote guidance for his family and friends. He referred to cold-eeze (American zinc lozenges) because apparently there’s some evidence that zinc can stop a virus replicating. Zincovit is a common one here in pharmacies but there are a few others online.

Can anyone help out here with the post I’m referring to?

FaisPasCiFaisPasCa · 04/03/2020 21:36

I've just been over on the 'Corona virus OTT hysteria thread.'

Heavy doses of sarcasm were delivered to no avail.

(((Bangs head on wall))

Nice to be back.Grin

itsnotjustflu · 04/03/2020 21:36

@SharpieInThe You're not a fool

MoonlightMistletoe · 04/03/2020 21:37

Il repost here for you;

Good morning all, I am sure everyone has been getting all kinds of forwards re the Coronavirus, however I received this one and personally think it makes more sense to me, that’s just my personal opinion so I am sharing

The author is James Robb, MD UC San Diego

Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic

Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.

Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

  1. NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.

  2. Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.

  3. Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.

  4. Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.

  5. Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.

  6. Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.

  7. If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

  1. Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.

    Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth. 
    
  2. Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

  3. Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

  4. Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.

I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us! Jim

James Robb, MD FCAP

itsnotjustflu · 04/03/2020 21:37

I've just bought some educational exercise book for DS from Amazon. I may have added 50 sachets of porridge to the order......

JustMeAndMyTins · 04/03/2020 21:38

Thanks @MoonlightMistletoe

itsnotjustflu · 04/03/2020 21:39

@MoonlightMistletoe thank you.... I have bought some at an already inflated price but couldn't remember why

AlohaMolly · 04/03/2020 21:40

Sharpie I think you make the right decision for you and your family and it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks.

NewYearNewTwatName · 04/03/2020 21:40

just caught up on the thread. Thanks lego and Yummy about the recipes. I think I missed a few pages when I tried to catch up at work. so sorry if i missed anyone else mention hand gel recipes.

I'm not impressed with the handling of updates and location. It's so frustrating the government think that keeping people in the dark is the best way forward. Angry

it was a top saying years ago in old job, that we described ourselves as Mushroom.

Kept in the dark and fed on shit

TheGirlFromStoryville · 04/03/2020 21:43

DM has a hosp appointment on Friday. She has haemachromatosis (?) and she has to attend the liver clinic every so often.
I've told her not to go - but she's still planning on going. So frustrating!

Readyme · 04/03/2020 21:44

@orthodontix we are in similar situation only with an only child. We do loads of groups usually and our fab H.E group is really large. I have been able to justify keeping DC at home so far due to avoiding bus however my mum has offered to come over Friday to drive us to cooking class.

@SharpieInThe oh no that is close. Sounds like keeping them at home is good idea, avoids spreading to the adults in the household.

Puppycorn · 04/03/2020 21:45

I am not sure if this has been discussed earlier but there is this product in Holland and Barrett which I have just seen called Hubner natural immunpro that’s effective against viruses it seems. Ordered one just in case. There goes my monthly food budget -it’s just day 5 of the month 😂

Readyme · 04/03/2020 21:48

@TheGirlFromStoryville my mum has same condition Is it just a check up or does she get regular blood cleansing? If she needs regular treatment probably best to get it done sooner rather than build up problems.

Plantherd · 04/03/2020 21:48

Does anyone know when the best time to go to the supermarket would be.. My local closes at midnight and reopens at 6am (thinking in terms of shelves being restocked plus it being quieter!)
Confused

ofwarren · 04/03/2020 21:49

UNESCO: More than 290 million students are out of school due to the #Coronavirus.

Makinganewthinghappen · 04/03/2020 21:53

does anyone have a cut off point of when they will stop going to things like after school clubs and things?

My children are home ed anyway but we do have things on - my oldest was at a gcse group today, tomorrow we have a minecraft etc. And another sports class in the evening

I’m starting to feel a little worried about it!
We are about 2 miles from a confirmed case - a school shut down- but I’m not sure if stopping things now is over reacting or not!

JustMeAndMyTins · 04/03/2020 21:55

@Puppycorn the spending is out of control isn’t it?! I’m buying a bloody bike to avoid the tube. I cannot get over the outlay (especially for something I’m currently frightened to ride on the road).

@SharpieInThe That’s rubbish but remember, family members haven’t always caught it from each other - and others caught it seemingly out of nowhere, from who knows who. Proximity in this respect does not necessarily change things.

Good grief, ladies, I am knackered with a capital ‘give-me-a-fucking-break’. And sleeping terribly. And work is very demanding right now. I sort of wish I was a blasé ‘fluist’ if I’m honest (albeit one with a stash Wink).

Good vibes and empathy to all who are really anxious. It’s tough.

peachgreen · 04/03/2020 21:59

@MoonlightMistletoe I found that really reassuring and useful, thank you so much for sharing.

itsnotjustflu · 04/03/2020 21:59

@Makinganewthinghappen agreed.... I'd worry about his place at swimming etc especially if no one else is taking this seriously. I'd feel less like I'm over reacting if there wasn't such a strong lean towards 'but it's only flu'
My DH said first 1,000 cases is our cut off now they're not announcing locations anymore but tbh I think it should also depend on fatalities. Of which, touch wood, we still have none in this country

peachgreen · 04/03/2020 22:03

Is anyone else starting to get more worried about the long term economic impact? Regardless of having a stockpile we can't afford a rise in prices and at this point they feel inevitable.