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Prepping for a pandemic....8

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wheresmymojo · 28/02/2020 21:54

8th thread on prepping for a pandemic and following the risk of a COVID pandemic.

Anxiety

As Preppers we tend to look at a reasonable worst case scenario to plan for. Everyone is welcome on the thread but if you find it makes you anxious be kind to yourself and think about sticking to once daily updates from the BBC or similar Thanks

General COVID Info

The estimated replication rate is R= 2 to 4 based on latest expert estimates. This means each infected person spreads the virus to between 2 and 4 people. Experts estimate that, unchecked, it could infect 60% of the population.

Around 15-20% of cases are thought to be severe - that is resulting in the need for hospitalisation. Around 3-5% requiring ventilation.

The estimated mortality rate is around 1-2% at the moment (compared to 0.01-0.1% for flu). This may change as it is very difficult to estimate mortality.

Children tend to have milder symptoms. Those over 60 with underlying health issues and a history of smoking are more likely to be severe (although not exclusively this type of person).

Spread of COVID

It is estimated that the average incubation period is 3-5 days but can be as long as 24 days.

It can be spread with no symptoms.

It can be spread via droplet (cough/sneeze), aerosol (breathing same air in very close quarters), bodily fluids, fecal/oral route and formites (via surfaces, up to 28 days in the right circumstances but up to 3-5 days in more typical circumstances).

Updates

As this is a novel virus and knowledge is constantly being updated - I will post updates as they become available with links to source.

I am not a medical expert so any opinions or conjecture of my own should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Prepping Scenarios

Most of us are prepping for the following situations:

  • Wanting to stay indoors for 2-4 weeks + in case of a local outbreak / schools being closed
  • Potentially being ill with a flu type illness lasting 2-3 weeks with one or more of the household having the illness
  • Having to take a family member to hospital for COVID or any other reason during an outbreak

Prepping Items

Threads 1&2 have lists of things to think about to prep for the first scenario as do the Brexit prepping threads.

Main differences/additions to something like the Brexit list are:

  • Face masks if you can get them for any trips you have to make in public during an outbreak. These don't offer full protection and cannot be 100% relied upon but are probably better than nothing if you make sure you wear them correctly and dispose of them correctly. N95 masks are best but expensive and harder to wear, surgical face masks are second best. Dust masks are not going to help.
  • Hand sanitiser needs to be 60% or more alcohol content
  • Dettol / bleach / Miltons to disinfect. Not all disinfectants work but these three do
  • Plenty of at home/over counter treatments for flu type symptoms should you need to treat at home
  • Tissues (lots of) should you catch the virus
  • Think about meals that are easy to cook and eat should you be ill or both parents be ill at the same time (soup for example)
  • For a potential hospital trip you may want to prep a 'go bag' should you need to take someone to hospital with the virus (or anything else) during an outbreak. See Thread 1&2 for examples of what people are packing
  • Frequent and thorough hand washing, not touching your face and social distancing (no handshakes, hugs, etc) are some of the most effective ways to stay virus free

Other Thoughts

India have announced that they are stopping exports of some antibiotics, hormone treatments and vitamin supplements as they rely on China for raw materials.

Many factories that supplied fibre for use in sanitary towels and tampons are being diverted to manufacture face masks. Consider stocking up or changing to sustainable items (cloth STs, mooncup, period pants)

If you bulk buy hand gel with a high alcohol content make sure it is stored somewhere safe other than the one you’re using. It is flammable!

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MasterOfCaffeine · 28/02/2020 23:21

I've sat down this evening and wrote out a proper meal plan to make sure I have enough to make whole meals. Once the shopping arrives tomorrow then we'll have enough regular meals for the next week, plus about a month of meals between the freezer and storecupboard.

I've been wondering about fresh fruit and veg, I haven't stocked up as I'm afraid it will just go off and be wasted. But if I removed the plastic packaging, put it into a fabric produce bag and stored it in the cold dark shed, how long can it be expected to last?

wheresmymojo · 28/02/2020 23:21

I think a few in mainland China outside of Hubei or that have family on lockdown in China and maybe one in Italy

The rest were people chipping in who aren't on lockdown which was a bit pointless!

Yeah - I'm surprised no-one said alcohol but nah e they had plenty of that in Grin

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ofwarren · 28/02/2020 23:22

Monaco reports first case of coronavirus t.co/eUoE2b20hL

wheresmymojo · 28/02/2020 23:25

Italy now have 64 people in severe or critical condition Sad

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AvocadoOwl · 28/02/2020 23:28

I wonder what tomorrow will bring.

Catmaiden · 28/02/2020 23:29

I'm here, as prepped as I think I can be, planning on staying at home now for the next couple of weeks, bar emergency. But not saying anything further about my preps as I don't want to be in the DM (again) !

middleager · 28/02/2020 23:30

Stocked on few more bits today

  • latex gloves
  • hand sanitiser and soap
  • cold remedies
  • plasters
  • sanpro
  • Dettol disinfectant
  • Dettol fabric anti bac spray (somebody on another thread mentioned she keeps some by the door to spray her bag)
  • pet food and fat balls for birds

A friend had her Asda delivery cancelled yesterday and a £10 voucher as a 'sorry'.

Tomorrow I'll look at coffee, longlife milk, chocolate and fruit juice. More bread mix too.

Like pp I'll catch up on housework/laundry and be as organised as I can be.

M0ckingb1rd · 28/02/2020 23:31

I've been watching this thread for a while and have very much appreciated the calm and collected tone and advice... so thank you everyone...

I haven't commented before but I've been gradually filling my larder for a while too. However, I still have a big-ish delivery booked for Sunday evening... which at the start of the week seemed like a good plan but with the way things have progressed today and this calm before the storm feeling we all seem to have I'm feeling a bit anxious about whether my order will end up having a lot of 'out of stock' items by the time they pick and pack it.... I haven't been to any supermarkets in the last few days, are the shelves still pretty well stocked? I'm worried everyone might start panic buying this weekend and I'm wondering if I should just go and get all my remaining items tomorrow and cancel my order...

Tinnednut · 28/02/2020 23:31

@Wetcappuccino I haven't used public transport since early February, sticking to our village during the week. This week we won't be eating out or going to places like softplay and swimming like we usual do. But will go out for walks in woods etc.

After Sunday DD and I will avoid all unnecessary contact with others, DH will go to his office because business phone line but will be fairy isolated too.
The hard thing will be not going to DD usual groups, classes and playdates.

Tinnednut · 28/02/2020 23:36

Oh I need lollipops for DD. We realised when DD had a bad cold this winter that sucking on lollies helped. With freezer space tight we cant fit loads of ice lollies.

flummoxedlummox · 28/02/2020 23:36

Not sure if it's been mentioned, the move to contactless payments rather than notes and coins might be beneficial and slow the spread versus what would have happened 10+ years ago?

I've unconsciously found myself exclusively using it for the last week.

tryingtoprep · 28/02/2020 23:39

Thank you @wheresmymojo for these threads. Thank you also to everyone who's contributed with advice and tips. I've found them so useful. Feeling as prepared as possible definitely helps the feelings of uncertainty and anxiety.

Licorice is worth buying. If you want to avoid sugar you can buy the roots and make tea. It helps with coughs but limit intake if you have high blood pressure.

wherearemychickens · 28/02/2020 23:40

I have bought some licorice root, but I have no idea what to do with it now. Do you smash it up a bit and just soak in water?

tryingtoprep · 28/02/2020 23:45

wherearemychickens I've no idea if it's the proper way but I used to just stick a root in my mug and add boiled water. I'm a bit strange though as I also love sucking on them!

Tinnednut · 28/02/2020 23:49

@MasterOfCaffeine Root veg and apples will store well ideally in sand or hay not touching each other. It works better with freshly picked but will extend the life of supermarket stuff too.

Potatoes do well in breathable sacks. Onions and garlic will keep well too.

Tesco sent me a leek the size of my arm a few weeks back it kept well in my kitchen cupboard for almost two weeks before I sliced it up for the fridge last week. I still have some in the fridge for this weekend it's still nice and healthy looking.

EliK · 28/02/2020 23:49

I saw something on reddit about copper tape, someone had it on door handles and light switches to prevent virus spread. I've got some in to put over my bathroom vent (flat with shared ventilation system). No idea if it will actually do anything.

ItsNotJustTheFuckingFlu · 28/02/2020 23:53

Thank you for the new thread.

Aufgehts · 29/02/2020 00:00

I don't know if this has been mentioned before but a lot of plant based alternatives to milk, cheese and butter keep for quite a long time.

Just thought I'd add this random thought in case anyone finds it helpful.

MoonlightMistletoe · 29/02/2020 00:09

Morgue in Hyde park? Is this fake news ?

twitter.com/telegraph/status/1233509903777570816?s=21

MotherOfDragonite · 29/02/2020 00:10

Checking in.

I've got a good supply of food in the house but I'm getting increasingly worried about the prospect of getting ill and becoming unable to care for my children temporarily, as I'm a single mother.

I am taking vitamins more regularly and trying to sleep. We can't really avoid public transport unfortunately but we are using hand sanitiser more regularly.

Humina · 29/02/2020 00:14

Morgue in Hyde Park is, I believe, party of the absolute worst case scenario planning.

Supermarkets have been fine by us @M0ckingb1rd (Nr Kent).

ofwarren · 29/02/2020 00:20

Morgue in Hyde park isn't fake news but it also isn't coronavirus news.
Those plans are in place for ANY event where they would need to move bodies en masse. So, war, nuclear event, pandemic etc.

pemberlyshades · 29/02/2020 00:25

@ofwarren so glad you said this! There are many many public health control measures that have been planned for years.

wheresmymojo · 29/02/2020 00:27

Agreed...and it's for the very worst case scenario.

They have to plan for a worst case as to not do so would be negligent...but we don't actually expect to end up in a worst case scenario.

They are just contingency plans to have in their back pocket should they ever need them, and hopefully they won't.

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