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Prepping for a pandemic....8

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wheresmymojo · 28/02/2020 21:54

8th thread on prepping for a pandemic and following the risk of a COVID pandemic.

Anxiety

As Preppers we tend to look at a reasonable worst case scenario to plan for. Everyone is welcome on the thread but if you find it makes you anxious be kind to yourself and think about sticking to once daily updates from the BBC or similar Thanks

General COVID Info

The estimated replication rate is R= 2 to 4 based on latest expert estimates. This means each infected person spreads the virus to between 2 and 4 people. Experts estimate that, unchecked, it could infect 60% of the population.

Around 15-20% of cases are thought to be severe - that is resulting in the need for hospitalisation. Around 3-5% requiring ventilation.

The estimated mortality rate is around 1-2% at the moment (compared to 0.01-0.1% for flu). This may change as it is very difficult to estimate mortality.

Children tend to have milder symptoms. Those over 60 with underlying health issues and a history of smoking are more likely to be severe (although not exclusively this type of person).

Spread of COVID

It is estimated that the average incubation period is 3-5 days but can be as long as 24 days.

It can be spread with no symptoms.

It can be spread via droplet (cough/sneeze), aerosol (breathing same air in very close quarters), bodily fluids, fecal/oral route and formites (via surfaces, up to 28 days in the right circumstances but up to 3-5 days in more typical circumstances).

Updates

As this is a novel virus and knowledge is constantly being updated - I will post updates as they become available with links to source.

I am not a medical expert so any opinions or conjecture of my own should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Prepping Scenarios

Most of us are prepping for the following situations:

  • Wanting to stay indoors for 2-4 weeks + in case of a local outbreak / schools being closed
  • Potentially being ill with a flu type illness lasting 2-3 weeks with one or more of the household having the illness
  • Having to take a family member to hospital for COVID or any other reason during an outbreak

Prepping Items

Threads 1&2 have lists of things to think about to prep for the first scenario as do the Brexit prepping threads.

Main differences/additions to something like the Brexit list are:

  • Face masks if you can get them for any trips you have to make in public during an outbreak. These don't offer full protection and cannot be 100% relied upon but are probably better than nothing if you make sure you wear them correctly and dispose of them correctly. N95 masks are best but expensive and harder to wear, surgical face masks are second best. Dust masks are not going to help.
  • Hand sanitiser needs to be 60% or more alcohol content
  • Dettol / bleach / Miltons to disinfect. Not all disinfectants work but these three do
  • Plenty of at home/over counter treatments for flu type symptoms should you need to treat at home
  • Tissues (lots of) should you catch the virus
  • Think about meals that are easy to cook and eat should you be ill or both parents be ill at the same time (soup for example)
  • For a potential hospital trip you may want to prep a 'go bag' should you need to take someone to hospital with the virus (or anything else) during an outbreak. See Thread 1&2 for examples of what people are packing
  • Frequent and thorough hand washing, not touching your face and social distancing (no handshakes, hugs, etc) are some of the most effective ways to stay virus free

Other Thoughts

India have announced that they are stopping exports of some antibiotics, hormone treatments and vitamin supplements as they rely on China for raw materials.

Many factories that supplied fibre for use in sanitary towels and tampons are being diverted to manufacture face masks. Consider stocking up or changing to sustainable items (cloth STs, mooncup, period pants)

If you bulk buy hand gel with a high alcohol content make sure it is stored somewhere safe other than the one you’re using. It is flammable!

OP posts:
Sunshinesky1981 · 01/03/2020 14:17

That jump was higher than expected. Am so thankful to this forum as it has meant I was proactive and have already stocked up on essentials. Have a feeling in the next few days the 'it's only flu' group will be starting to worry and supply stock in supermarkets are going to decline as people start to panic.
Before this I was in that group but have come round to the thinking that prepare for the worst and hope for the best was the best way for me. I've only stocked up on things that we would eat and use anyway so if nothing happens we will use it and shopping bills will be lower over the next few weeks, but if the worst happens we have a plan in place , so for me it's a win/win

MargotB7 · 01/03/2020 14:17

On a positive 8 have recovered according to Worldometer so that means 27 have got it.

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 14:17

They still have to report at 100 cases, they just don't chase up contacts

MargotB7 · 01/03/2020 14:18

I do keep buying extra tins when I'm shopping.

Skyejuly · 01/03/2020 14:19

Ugh.

Skyejuly · 01/03/2020 14:20

I agree sunshine. Least we wont have to stress about it as we already have stuff in.

bobbbbby · 01/03/2020 14:20

The Gloucestershire one from yesterday has been confirmed as Tetbury Primary School, (just 10 miles from me) sincerely all the kids are ok

bobbbbby · 01/03/2020 14:20

*hope

WorriedMam2020 · 01/03/2020 14:21

Fuck a duck! Wasn’t expecting 12! I guess it’s like that maths equation where you start with 1p on day 1 and double it and by day 31 you’re a millionaire :(

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 14:22

Juventus in lockdown as THREE players test positive for coronavirus

#COVID19 #Coronavirus #Juve t.co/Sci5sSmZyW

Skyejuly · 01/03/2020 14:22

Yep I was expecting 6 not 12.

Do we know exact towns yet? Where in essex.

DigitalGhost · 01/03/2020 14:25

Hate when they give a vague idea. West Yorkshire is massive

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 14:25

3 new cases of #Coronavirus in #Lebanon

GorkyMcPorky · 01/03/2020 14:26

They still have to report at 100 cases, they just don't chase up contacts

Thanks for clarifying @ofwarren

FelicityFebruary · 01/03/2020 14:27

Yes my dp is a glass half full person and keeps saying we have hardly any cases.

He is at least on board with full cupboards and hand washing as the potential effects of this have been noted as a very big deal by his company for the last week. Without that no doubt we would have fallen out.

JustMeAndMyTins · 01/03/2020 14:30

I’m interested about the way the symptoms are described - is it routine to go to hospital with these symptoms in other parts of the world, or are people going to hospital because of the fear it is Covid 19, or are the symptoms so severe that the person feels they need to be in hospital?

@mybrainhurtsalot I’ve been wondering this too!

WorryAboutCovid · 01/03/2020 14:31

Have nc, obviously. But a regular poster on this thread.

Son is due to go to an area of Germany to do tourist things and France to do tourist things as well. Next week.

The school has sent an email regarding an immunocompromised child at the school.

50 students due to travel.

We are already in an area named with a case. Yesterday and again today. Many schools went to Italy for ski trips - apparently to uninfected areas.

What do you think the chances are of either

  1. the trip being canceled
  2. the trip going ahead, but because of the immunocompromised child, being told to stay home for 14 days
  3. getting stuck in lockdown while over there?

Thanks.

WorryAboutCovid · 01/03/2020 14:32

And how would you raise it with the school? The wording would be appreciated!

Banana770 · 01/03/2020 14:32

Same @DigitalGhost I’m in West Yorkshire and would like to know where abouts!

AvocadoOwl · 01/03/2020 14:36

@WorryAboutCovid I think you'll have a better idea after the COBRA meeting tomorrow.

I'd be surprised if a school trip like that went ahead personally. If nothing else it's an enormous amount of responsibility for the teachers if they find themselves in a sudden hotspot or impacted by quickly implemented travel restrictions etc.

ShanghaiDiva · 01/03/2020 14:37

@JustMeAndMyTins
I answered this upthread. Current rules in China, you must go to the hospital if you have symptoms or fever.
Also a lot of people go to hospital for routine treatment, very different system from UK.

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 14:37

I can't find anything on which area in West Yorkshire. I really want to know too because my son's hospital is there.

ShanghaiDiva · 01/03/2020 14:40

@WorryAboutCovid
I would imagine the school should be contacting parents about the trip as numbers are increasing all over Europe.
If you hear nothing I would ask what contingency plans they have should cases appear in the location they are visiting, if there is a lockdown in the area etc.

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 14:43

Rhode Island reports first presumptive case of coronavirus; patient recently returned from Italy t.co/eUoE2b20hL

WorryAboutCovid · 01/03/2020 14:44

There are already cases in the place they are going in Germany.

They mentioned they are taking advice from the head teacher (?!) , tour operator (who won't want to lose the money), local authority (MP is useless) and Central government (who have baby on the brain)

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