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Surgical abortion

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blackkat97 · 15/01/2021 19:19

Hi I was wondering who has had a surgical termination?

How long was the recovery process?
How long after did you wait to have sex?
Have you had trouble conceiving since?
Did it have a bad effect on hr mental health?? Thank you

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Bumblebee1980a · 21/01/2021 16:33

[quote blackkat97]@Bumblebee1980a was you okay conceiving after x[/quote]
Yes x

ChickaboomZoom · 21/01/2021 17:06

@blackkat97
We tried again a few months later and I conceived first time. I guess I’m very fertile in general though...

Ponderousness · 21/01/2021 17:14

I had a surgical abortion many years ago, conceived again with no problems several times. It doesn’t affect fertility.

Sounds like you know this is the best thing for you. It’s a straight forward procedure but you’ll likely bleed after. I was upset afterwards wondering if I’d made the right choice, it definitely was and I don’t really think about it now.

Tell your family whatever you want too to get you through. Maybe mention you had some bleeding so went to hospital and they confirmed miscarriage. I wish you the best Flowers

blackkat97 · 21/01/2021 17:26

@Ponderousness
I'm really in too minds it's so hard 😭

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blackkat97 · 21/01/2021 17:27

I keep having dreams that I have given birth to him and I'm holding him.
I'm scared it will haunt me if I terminate

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seensome · 21/01/2021 18:30

Whatever you do don't do this for your ex that your hoping to be with, if he really loves you then he could possibly come round to the idea of you already having a child, if not then you will find another man eventually, thinking of you, I know this must be such a hard decision x

Chica1990 · 21/01/2021 19:25

Push it back @blackkat97! You need to be sure so you don’t torture yourself forever. Please speak to a professional therapist.

I think you would do amazing if you want to continue. Every single person on my Facebook who had a baby and broke up with their partner all found new partners. What if you meet someone later on who also has a kid? You might resent taking theirs on as you sacrificed your own for the sake of trying to find a future relationship.
It sounds like you have a lot of support and people have had kids with much less, don’t under estimate yourself!

blackkat97 · 21/01/2021 19:42

@seensome

Like I’m not doing it for my ex he said regardless he would be there but maybe not in a relationship but when I think of my future all I think about is being with him, having the family we always spoke about. I was so broken when we split

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ChickaboomZoom · 21/01/2021 20:42

@blackkat97

I hear what you’re saying but I’m wondering why he wouldn’t want to be with you if you kept the baby? Should he not love you regardless? Him saying that he might not want a relationship with you is still putting pressure on you somewhat. Would you continue the pregnancy if he was happy for you to keep the baby and you guys could move forward together?

blackkat97 · 21/01/2021 23:22

I think I'm going to go through with it tomorrow's

I just don't want a baby right now, even tho I have the support I want to be properly financially stable, have a bigger place not a 1 bedroom flat, in a proper relationship, a proper job etc

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blackkat97 · 21/01/2021 23:22

I want to do things, travel etc

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glassshoes · 21/01/2021 23:49

It sounds like you are changing your mind quite a bit still now. You speak about being haunted by your decision which nobody should ever feel. You need to feel certain you are making the right decision before going ahead. If you still feel conflicted, you could see how you feel in a week after counselling. The most important thing is you are sure you are making the right choice, however long that takes.

Firegirl35 · 21/01/2021 23:52

OP, if you don’t want a baby now then don’t have one now, you have the choice over that and it’s ok to do so. It doesn’t make you a bad person or less deserving of having a child in the future. You want to be able to offer your child a better start, to be more financially stable and hopefully in a committed relationship, and nothing is wrong with that. Equally, others in your position may elect to go ahead and again that is also a perfectly fine decision! What I’m getting at is that it’s YOUR call, you and only you really need to live with the decision and the impact it will make on your life. Your reasons are all valid as it is your decision so really as long as you are comfortable with it (as much as you can be because regardless of the outcome you want it’s not pleasant to go through. I don’t mean the procedure itself but more the whole experience in general), and you are confident then try to look forward to create the future you want to create and turn it into a positive experience for the better.
I had a surgical termination when I was 24, I was renting a flat in Manchester with a girlfriend, was barely keeping down my job due to being signed off repeatedly due to depression and bulimia, and fell pregnant after 3 months of being with my partner. He lived 200 miles away. I naively didn’t know how difficult parenthood is at the time and wanted to keep it despite the fact I was not ready emotionally at all. I felt pressured into an abortion by my family, and resented and hated my mum for years afterwards. It messed me up because I didn’t address my feelings, and because I didn’t take ownership of what I wanted and stick to a decision that I made. You will cope better afterwards if you know that this is what you want, not what you think you should do or what others want of you. And talking about it afterwards will likely help a lot. It’s okay to know you want to go through with a termination if that is what you want, you don’t need to feel guilty for that. But if you are slightly unsure and want to talk more I urge you to do so. An abortion is irreversible and if you aren’t sure will be much harder to cope with. I grieved for years afterwards and it affected me in certain ways, but with hindsight now I would say that it was the right decision. I wouldn’t have been able to have the life that I had if I had of had the baby. I’m not saying it would have been any worse or better, but it would have been different and it just comes down to what you want to do and what you value. You can still do things with a baby/child, you can still travel etc. It just would be a slightly different experience of travel than as a single woman. You can also better yourself and your career, jobs will always be out there and you can study, retrain etc. Maybe use your support network to help you dedicate the time to this. There are ways around everything, and the things that you think are problems now really don’t need to be as there are solutions. But if, after thinking through all the ways you could have the baby and still achieve your goals something is still not sitting right with you, then it may mean that deep down you don’t want this baby right now and have to let the opportunity go. I decided not to go to my recent surgical termination and when I woke up instead of feeling happy and relieved I felt panic. I didn’t feel as I should. And even after going through everything meticulously with a fine toothed comb, for me the circumstances were not what I wanted (ex wanted no involvement, single, parents the other end of the country, new to the area). I want a family unit and don’t think I could cope emotionally or financially on my own. People said I would cope, because you have to cope, you just do. But I didn’t want to simply “cope”. I wanted me and my child to THRIVE. I didn’t feel confident enough that I could make that happen, and wasn’t courageous enough to take the risk. It is something I will have to live with and the “what ifs” as I’m also getting older at 35. But you are still young and it wouldn’t be your last chance. I don’t want to sway you either way as it’s your decision and only you know what’s right for you. I hope you give yourself more time if you need to, and think everything through carefully, keep posting and asking questions etc. It doesn’t matter if your family/friends want you to keep the baby, everyone loves babies. YOU are the one who would be raising it single handedly (although with support). Ultimately you are the one responsible for another persons life and development, not them. This is something you will either relish and take delight in, or fear. It’s okay either way. You are stronger than you think and you will cope if you keep the baby, and you will get through the dark days if you don’t. Your path is yours to walk down. Whichever one you chose, don’t torture yourself by looking back. Good luck xxxx

blackkat97 · 22/01/2021 00:00

@Firegirl35
Thank you so much!

Did you never conceive again after your terminations

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Firegirl35 · 22/01/2021 00:11

Yes I did conceive, many women here also did. The chances of it affecting fertility is very very rare, they will tell you of the statistics because they are legally bound to but try not to let a fear of that unduly cloud your decision because if you are going to a reputable clinic with an experienced surgeon this will not happen. You will be given a weeks course of antibiotics to take to prevent any infections (which again are rare, and you will be reducing the risk of them by doing things like avoiding baths initially and not using tampons). Just follow their guidance and trust you will be fine, if you do do tomorrow explain how you feel and they should be sympathetic to you. The first nurse I saw was cold and impatient when I got upset and had a panic attack, she asked me to leave the clinic to go speak to my mum in the car, I did and just sobbed. When I returned I sat back in the waiting room and thought, you know what I’m not having this! I spoke to the receptionist and asked her if I could have another nurse. She gave me a knowing look and nodded. A different lady came in shortly after and swooped me up leading the way to a different part of the building and she couldn’t have been nicer. Bedside manner matters so much! If you are at all uncomfortable with the first nurse you see at the consultation, if you don’t feel like you can get your questions properly addressed and you aren’t being reassured, don’t stay. Ask for someone else or leave. Otherwise it will make the whole thing traumatic than it needs to be. I think I was just very unlucky with the first woman as saw, as absolutely everyone else was a diamond including the anaesthetic and surgeon. I just wanted to give you a heads up incase that did happen, you are well within your rights to ask to see someone else. I’m sure you will be fine though. Where are you booked into?

blackkat97 · 22/01/2021 00:32

@Firegirl35
Thank you for sharing your experience!
I think for certain it's what I want and what is best for me right now. I just think I'll struggle with it being lockdown and not being able to keep busy! Like I think I will struggle at night when I'm alone especially.

I am booked in with bpas x

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Firegirl35 · 22/01/2021 00:40

OP I’ve just read all your messages again. Yesterday you were in two minds and were all over the place, I’m not sure whether you really are ready to make this decision with confidence? I really hope that you wouldn’t be wanting to terminate knowing how hard you would find it, only to want to try to conceive immediately after with the man you say you see a future with? If your questions about whether people conceived again are because you are having thoughts of trying again very soon with someone else then I don’t know whether you would just be trying to replace the baby you would have lost? But if you are thinking more long term fertility that makes more sense since you can concentrate on your goals and life plans before having a family. Whatever you do, do Not have a termination for a man. This will only end badly. And when I was 24 I too thought I was with the love of my life, we were together for 8 years, bought a house, yet he never asked me to marry him. He wanted children and I wanted marriage before that, so it seemed we were at loggerheads. When I wanted to change my career he wouldn’t support me and we split up. If I had kept that pregnancy I had when I was 24 maybe I’d be a single mum now. I doubt I would have become a firefighter which is what I did. You just do not know what will happen. Less than two years after we split up I found out he had a new girlfriend living in the house we had bought, they got secretly married during the first lock down when his fiancé was pregnant but she unfortunately miscarried. There are no guarantees in life, things will change as they tend to do and either way your life might not be quite how you expect it to be, because that is often the way with life but we have to make the very best of it. As long as it is for you, and not because of the pressure of a man who you dream of a future with. Because just as you would likely regret making a decision you were pressured into by family/friends, you will equally regret making a decision because of a partner. Take everyone out of it, and think only of You. You are the one who has to live with it either way, every one else to one degree or another can walk away from it. You can’t. You live with the decision to terminate in your head if you go that path, and if you are sure of your decision then it is possible to cope and come out the other side stronger though I do believe you will have to go through a very normal period of grieving and loss as it is a loss whether you wanted it or not. You also live with the decision to keep the baby and be the primary carer of him. I just want you to make the decision for you that is my concern, as I’ve made it for other people before and it’s not the way to go!! Be honest with yourself and you will see your path more xxx I’m sorry that I think I may have confused things for you, it is a complicated matter it’s not usually an easy decision to make. It’s hard because you want to make the right choice for you. If you need more time, please take it!! Xx

Firegirl35 · 22/01/2021 00:52

Hi yes nights will be the worst. I was awake till 5am last night. Kept busy in the day then went for a walk and was confronted with it, no escape from my thoughts. But I know a bit more now from last time to face it and not bury head in sand too much.. I had an initial appointment with a counsellor I’d organised through work today and felt so much better after talking to her. She said it’s normal to go over things afterwards and it’s your brains way of processing what’s happened and helps with overcoming it. Same as talking, so urged me to do that and I have been doing to my mum and also have her booked in for next week. You say you have support around you for keeping the baby, but what about support around you for after a termination? I would argue that that’s just as, if not more important for you and you also mention previous mental health problems. You are going to need your family after this, it’s not to be taken lightly and if you don’t confide in st least one person you will be denying yourself the chance to properly heal and recover and risk the termination being in vain and jeopardising your chance to fulfil the life you want to. You do not deserve this, you deserve to be loved and supported, to be listened to and held, to have someone who will come in and just quietly lay by your side if you don’t want to talk, or bring you tea and toast because you can’t bear to leave your bed just yet. Please please confide in someone. Are you close to your mum? I’m sure your family would be devastated if they thought you had gone through something like that alone with no support. You also run the risk of if you have a termination without telling them before, then tell them afterwards they could say something or react in a way that makes it much harder for you to heal from the termination. I’m just wanting you to be as well as possible. Could you identify a confidant and cancel tomorrow, talk to them first and then if you do decide to rebook and go ahead with a termination you have your person who you know will have your back and look out for you? Just the practicalities for starters; how are you getting there? If you have general anaesthetic you won’t be able to drive home and need someone with you for at least 24 hours. Is the actual procedure booked for tomorrow?

blackkat97 · 22/01/2021 01:43

@Firegirl35
I was asking about the fertility for in the future I won't want a baby just yet as I do want to be with someone, be properly stable etc.

I am close to my mum but she can't have children her self (I'm adopted) so I just feel I wouldn't be able to talk to her about termination if you get me?

Yes the actual procedure is booked for tomrrow, I would be getting a taxi there and my ex would. Be picking me up and staying with me for a couple days then I'll probably go to a friends and just tell her I've miscarriages.

How long did you bleed for after? Sorry if you've already said

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Firegirl35 · 22/01/2021 01:58

Ok it’s good that you aren’t thinking about rushing out to get pregnant again. Do you feel happy going back to your ex’s and know he will take good care of you? Can you trust him not to let the truth out if you definitely decide to have a termination and tell people it was a miscarriage? That’s your decision, I just know from experience I have needed support and although you will get support from people thinking you had a miscarriage, I do think you will need to talk to someone afterwards who you can be honest with as you can’t edit yourself or bottle these things up. Have you accessed their counselling before? As it can help you come to a decision or be more confident in it if you need that or have any doubt then ring them. I know it gets harder the longer it goes on for and I know you don’t want to drag it out, but equally you don’t want to regret a decision because you didn’t talk it through. If you’re confident you know your own mind though that’s that as not everyone will have counselling and sometimes if you have too many people giving their opinions it can only confuse matters more. That’s what happened to me, I spoke to 4 different counsellors and took three weeks to decide, so it was an awfully hard time.
How long you bleed and how much varies from person to person, but I don’t think it should be any longer than 2-3 weeks but by the end of that it will be very slight. Some people don’t bleed at all. That’s normal too. I hardly bleed. Lighter than a normal period and no pain. I keep imagining I’ve flooded my pad but when I check I haven’t, it’s barely anything. You will have tablets before the surgery that cause cramping, for me that was much worse than after the surgery now, but it only lasted half an hour and I asked for a heat pad. Taking paracetamol will help with any cramping after

Firegirl35 · 22/01/2021 02:03

I was 11 weeks I don’t know if it would be any greater for longer gestation, but in the surgery room they offered me a pain killer injection (I think they may inject it into the cervix but i wasn’t taking that in, I just asked would i be under general when they give that and agreed to it when they said yes. I’d recommend that and they will probably offer it, as when i came round in recovery room I couldn’t feel any pain at all. There were 4 girls who went in and came out before me, so I had to witness their recoveries, I don’t know how many weeks they were or whether they had conscious sedation or general, but all of them when asked by the nurse said they had either no pain or just a slight pain. Do not be scared of that part xx

blackkat97 · 22/01/2021 02:08

@Firegirl35 he will be coming back to mine, but yeah I trust he wouldn't say anything .

I am going to ask for counselling afterwards, I am under a mental health team anyway so I do have support there.

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Firegirl35 · 22/01/2021 02:09

Is there a reason why you haven’t asked for counselling before?

blackkat97 · 22/01/2021 02:12

@Firegirl35 I did and they said I'll be spoken to before the procedure

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Firegirl35 · 22/01/2021 02:21

That’s not good enough OP. I’m disgusted that they said that!! You will be spoken to yes, and if the nurse thinks that you aren’t sure or are being pressured to be there then they will ask you to think about it more and come back another day. But that isn’t counselling! You are entitled to however many counselling sessions you need! These will be over the phone, with a BACP trained professional and be impartial, and confidential! That isn’t acceptable and puts you under so much pressure to make the decision there and then or go ahead without being sure. Do not go through with it if you end up feeling like that. It’s fine to walk away. I went and left three times at two different clinics. They will have it happen all the time, so don’t feel you have to do anything on their terms. Mine was with Marie Stopes and I don’t know if the policies are different but I would really be challenging that, and I know other posters on here would absolutely be saying the same. If you don’t have a Marie Stopes near you there’s still nothing stopping you from ringing their helpline and talking to someone telling them of your situation. They are there to help. Even if you don’t use them. Their phone lines are open 24/7 (though not sure if they are manned by counsellors this entire time but it’s worth a try). I wasn’t sure of my decision for a long time and had “back up” terminations booked, and arranged counselling in between those or just gave myself more time and posted on here. There’s nothing stopping you from doing that tomorrow either. Whatever you decide, I’ll be thinking of you and wish you the best of luck. Know that it’s ok to walk away if you want to. Get some rest now xx