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pumpkinpureeandghostlypearls · 16/10/2009 09:39

I am suffering SPD (for the second time) and just need to vent without driving everyone else on my pregnancy thread mental. Not that they aren't supportive but I still have 20 weeks to go and I don't want to ruin their pregnancies by talking about mine!

Please come and join me so I don't feel so alone, and feel free to share tips if you have any....

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xMrsSx · 01/06/2010 20:47

Hoorah MrsM!!! I'm glad for you that things are more sorted now. I was saying that it'll just be you and me left on here with all these lucky ladies having their babies!! But think a postnatal SPD thread might be a good idea - though I am guessing I won't have quite so much time to spend titting about on the tinternet then! What's your due date?

LooL00 · 02/06/2010 08:55

morning everyone! i actually slept well on our new mattress and feel a bit more human. Also whatever the doc gave me for heartburn really workes and I regret sticking with the Gav for so long. I had some Gaviscon as well of course, just not half a bottle!
So we've got some real distance walkers amongst us, there's whimsi who can do 150m to the shop AND back, that makes almost 1/3 km and mrs'marathon'M who can do 1/3 mile. Glad you've sorted things out mrsM .
I'm getting really stressed out bcause I can't find the moses basket blankets and I can't get into the loft and the high cupboards to root around. Poor DH is having to bring the bags down one at a time so I can look in them (he wouldn't recognise them if he found them) then he has to take them back up again.Is this nesting?How else do you nest if you can't do ANYTHING?

MrsMiamla · 02/06/2010 09:01

morning ladies!

you're right MrsS! but yes, a postnatal sofa's a great idea, would be a shame for us all to lose touch. I'm due 29/8
We had a very frivolous 3D scan yesterday and it was amazing! The sonographer getting me to 'bounce my bum on the bed to move baby round' was less amazing but hey,needs must and all that!
If you end up bf your DC, you'll be surprised at how much time you get on MN still!

ktwiltshire · 02/06/2010 10:31

hey girls!! im finally home, so a lot more sober, havent had morphine (well oramorph) since yesterday morning.

DD is doing fantastically, sleeping for 4/5hrs at a time sometimes, shes just choosing to have her waking hours at 3am. but DH took the night shift last night, and i slept from 11ish to 3.30 when i woke up with very full boobs, gave her a feed, and went back to bed at 4.30, and didnt wake again till 7.30. AND...i walked to nursery and back this morning (round the corner) completely unaided!!!! im dancing in my head right now!!

im staying on the sofa for a while, waiting for my follow up physio appointment within 2 weeks with the local physio, my mum is trying to get me to book an appt with the pilates instructor she uses (who is also a physio), but its not really something i can afford right now!!

LeoniPoni · 02/06/2010 11:08

Hey kt! Oooh you're like a wonderful success story! I'm pleased you're doing so much better and DD sounds like she's settling in with you all beautifully!

Hope you carry on improving, you'll be bouncing about in no time no doubt!

LooL00 Glad you got some much needed sleep! The wonders of a good mattress huh? Best of luck with your blankets! I've been nesting 'by proxy'. I tell my fiance what needs doing and he's really sweet and either helps me with what it is or does it while I supervise from the bed/sofa/rocking chair!

MrsM I'm quite jealous! I really wanted a 3D scan but the time slot for it came and went and I hadn't got my act together to organise one! Was it wonderful to see baby's face?

I got about 2 hours broken sleep last night. Got up at 4:30 and sat in the bath for an hour which helped while I was in but of course the searing pain returned with a vengence once I got out. Grrrr. Oh well 15 days 14 hours until due date! And there is no way I'm going over my due due date! I will stage a sit in at the hospital until they get the bubba out of me, so help me god!

MrsMiamla · 02/06/2010 11:18

oh kt, i'm so pleased everything's going so well! And I'm very impressed you remember to tick the box for '4/5 hrs sleep at a time' when you ordered DD We forgot with DS (and suspect the same will apply to DD!)

leoni you're so close to D day now! We only had the scan yesterday because DH organised it! We weren't going to have one this time but we couldn't think of what to say to DD when she asks (in a few years) why DS had a special scan and she didn't! But yes, it was lovely seeing her face although she was about as uncooperative as she could possibly be! We had lots of lovely views of her bum and back
And i'm impressed you not only managed to run a bath for yourself but you also managed to get in and out of it without having to shout to be rescued!

I often take DS to p&t group on a wednesday morning. got there just now to find its not on because its half term. doh! cue a disappointed DS so we had a 'run' round the park instead! Apparently 'bootball' is our next activity for the day

hope you're all having lovely sunny days. ooh, forgot to say, i've actually got my first physio appt tomorrow!!

whimsicalname · 02/06/2010 12:05

looloo you should knit! I've done 3 shawls since i stopped work. my bin bag full of wool is nearly empty! It feels very productive, but necessarily means you have to sit down.

All the rest of you worried you'll be left on the sofa by yourselves, I'm sure I'll still be here! a third friend due in June has just had hers. If July people start beating me to it, I'll be extra cross!

Still, I'm at home today with a bored 5 year old so fingers crossed it's not imminent.

Twittle · 02/06/2010 12:36

Hello, I haven't read all the posts I am afraid I only got to page 2 (I'm at work so probably shouldn't be on here at all) !!

Anyway I have had pain in my pelvic/pubic area for the past two weeks but over the last couple of days it has got a lot worse. I am 32 weeks and have had a really active pregnancy up until now.. walking 4-5 miles five days a week and swimming a couple of times a week (breastroke it seemed to help the pain at the time although getting out of the pool last night was a different matter - nearly didn't manage it) however, the pain has now got a lot worse and I think it could be SPD. I couldn't turn over in bed last night and the pain was like a searing/burning one in my left pelvis/groin area. I have made an appointment to see my GP tonight and am really hoping she can help.... I just wanted some advice reassurance, is it is going to get much worse?? I am now worrying about everything having read some posts about SPD such as will I manage in labour and how will I manage for the next 8 weeks.... I had planned to have a nice break once I finished work and enjoy walking, gardening etc, looks like that's all out of the window, all I want to be able to do now is turn over in bed! Sorry for the long post, hope you don't mind me joining oh and is reflexology worth a bash??

LeoniPoni · 02/06/2010 12:54

Hi and welcome Twittle!

Sounds like SPD to me unfortunately! Don't feel too worried though! Even though its no picnic, you've done really well being so active up until now and its not long til your D Day!

It effects people differently and you might not suffer with more than the pain of a night and when moving strenuously.

The GP will prob refer you to Physio. Mine gave me a ton of advice and a big, bandage, band thing to go over my hips and my bump. Part of the advice for turnng over in bed was to get silky PJs that will glide easily over the sheets. Also try to wedge yourself into a position where you won't turn over in your sleep. If you find you struggle in the day try and avoid stairs and too much activity that would aggravate your pelvis.

And try not to worry about the labour. This is my first pregnancy and even though I'm struggling with the SPD I'm still hoping for as little medical intervention as possible. I've heard wonderful things about water births for SPD deliveries. I'm also holding onto the logic (?!) that if my pelvis is so loose to cause me this discomfort, the baby MUST be able to slide out with ease!

HTH!

Twittle · 02/06/2010 13:10

Hi LeoniP thank you that has really helped. This is my first pregnancy too which is probably increasing the worrying! Hadn't thought about your last point of making it easier for the baby to slide out - think I will just try and focus on that !! Looks like exercising is now off the agenda and I am hoping that I will get referred to a good physio too! Thanks again and good luck with the rest of your pregnancy!

LooL00 · 02/06/2010 14:18

Hi everyone. This is an "all I did" post. All I did was take the dc to a friends house to have their hair cut and a bit of a play. Of course I overdid it and walked about a bit too much and now I can hardly move and I've got a bored 5 year old and a grumpy 4 year old to get through a long hot afternoon.

glad you're home kt and sooooo pleased that you're walking. My physio recommended pilates as the best exercise for spd sufferers. I think it sounds really boring but this time I may try it.
Hope you get a nice physio mrsM .

I'm seeing my physio on Monday for the last time I think as she said she'd discuss birth with me. I'm still planning a homebirth and hope that it won't go on too long.There's a nice bit on the homebirth website about spd and short 2nd stages. By planning I mean I have 8 packets of sanitary pads in a box in the hallway and have checked there are some old towels in the cupboard. Next week I'm going to get the towels out of the cupboard and bung them in the box in the hallway.

Hi twittle you need to rest a lot and see if that improves things, it generally does for me but sometimes it's amazing how little sets it off again.let us know if you try the reflexology, the other thing people have mentioned in the media is acupuncture ( for the pain not as a cure).

Hope you get more sleep tonight leoni

35 weeks tomorrow 5 3 weeks and I'll be walking along the beach again corroding the pushchair with salt water.

whimsicalname · 02/06/2010 16:34

Hi twittle yup, that sounds like spd to me. I switched to swimming crawl in my last pregnancy, and carried on til 36 weeks this time round, but then got a rotten cold. I found it really helpful, and it's quite fun to haul up and down the pool doing crawl and feeling all athletic and then get out and be really fat! Well, I found it gratifying...

I had mild spd with my last (second) pregnancy, after cycling to work til 7 months, then walking - painfully. i had twinges for an afternoon, and then the boy fell out in 3 painful contractions. I didn't even push. I'm hoping this one will be as straightforward, but, as you might have gathered, I'm overdue and desparate to go!

looloo I hadn't realised you must be on half term too. What a bugger! we are now safely parked in front of the telly. I think I held out long enough. My 2 are nearly 6 and 4, so i guess pretty similar to yours. Have you tried sticker books? We get through so many! they seem more educational than telly, less destructive than just letting them run round, and far less hard work than actual craft. I've just got a good haul from asda living, which has the advantage of a car park. You're over half way through now! bring on monday.

LooL00 · 02/06/2010 17:22

Yes whimsi it's half term here too. Sticker books are great! Amazon has some cheap at the moment too.My two are pretty good at amusing themselves but they want to be outside at the moment and i want to lie down inside (having a bad afternoon can't even sit). we have the art easel outside in the summer house all the time and i turn a blind eye to any mess they make. We do ruin some clothes but it keeps them quiet. Only 2 more days.

Twittle · 03/06/2010 09:54

Whimsic that gives me hope if you were doing front crawl until 36 weeks! I am really missing the exercise although I am more concious of getting sorted out at the moment and not doing any more damage! GP was helpful(ish), she didn't exactly diagnose SPD just talked about ligaments stretching during pregnancy but I am being referred to a physio and I have left a message on a physio's phone who works in obstetrics (friend of a friend) in the hope that she might be able to see me sooner rather than later! I am also going to try and book up some reflexology so will post back with a report on whether it does any good ... (in my wildest dreams I am hoping it might also make the baby come a little early say perhaps at 38 weeks.... that would be lovely)!!

Thank you again for all the advice - hope that if possible some of you are able to enjoy some of today's sunshine - it's baking out there!!

LooL00 · 03/06/2010 10:26

Morning everyone!
Hope everyone had an ok night. Woken at 4 by the birds and then at 6 by dc1 wetting his bed. What is it with him, every half term or holiday he sleeps really heavily and we get wet beds again. Well DH had to deal with that one.

Twittle I'm hoping for 38w too, will be gutted when it doesn't happen though. Maybe not such a good idea as you can then (in your own view) go 4 weeks over. Keep on swimming if you can get in and out of the pool.

only 1.75 days left of half term.

whimsicalname · 03/06/2010 11:53

Ha ha you lot with your 38 weeks. I'm nearly 41. I've looked at some sunshine through the car window (children to play date) and hung up some washing to dry in it. Now I'm lying on the sofa wondering if i want cake enough to make one?

OhExpletive · 03/06/2010 13:25

Hello ladies, can I squeeze in?

I'm nearly 24 weeks with number 2 and it's starting again . I've been careful to keep my knees together etc and I've been using pillows for support since the very early stages but this morning when I rolled over I could hear the clicking start again and felt the pain twinging away and it's all coming flooding back to me

I was just wondering whether it's even worth seeing a physio again? Last time they told me there was nothing they could do, they just explained what I needed to not do. I also saw them about 3 months post partum because I'd overdone it with exercise and made it really bad again, and they said the same, rest etc. I don't want to go up there and have someone give me a load of leaflets again if there's nothing to be done, it's a waste of everyone's time.

Work can involve some quite heavy lifting and handling and I find it nearly impossible to ask for help, if I'm caught doing anything too much I get told off but I really hate having to pester people to assist me in doing what's very routine for me. I need to just buck up and do it though, I guess. I also stand up or drive almost all day which is rubbish!

Hope you are all having as comfortable a day as you can manage

LooL00 · 03/06/2010 13:38

Hi OhEx there's always room for one more on the sofa. You need to rest or you'll land up making things a whole lot worse!Why not tell your gp that you want to see a different physio and see if you get a more proactive one this time.Some of them are good and have a lot of experience in treating spd and some are more nervous and just bung you the crutches and tell you whay not to do. Post natally they can do loads more for you and to tell you to just rest is not helpful.

whimsi yes you do need cake.You can always leave the washing up til later.

The dc are off for a playdate 1/3 mile down the road, but I've got to drive them there. I'm worried they will lose the use of their legs. This time last year we went to Ambleside and they both climbed Loughrigg,dc2 was only just 3, now they're blobbing their way round to the neighbours by car. All my fault. I'm fed up with being boring sicky Mummy.

LooL00 · 03/06/2010 13:40

Hi OhEx there's always room for one more on the sofa. You need to rest or you'll land up making things a whole lot worse!Why not tell your gp that you want to see a different physio and see if you get a more proactive one this time.Some of them are good and have a lot of experience in treating spd and some are more nervous and just bung you the crutches and tell you whay not to do. Post natally they can do loads more for you and to tell you to just rest is not helpful.

whimsi yes you do need cake.You can always leave the washing up til later.

The dc are off for a playdate 1/3 mile down the road, but I've got to drive them there. I'm worried they will lose the use of their legs. This time last year we went to Ambleside and they both climbed Loughrigg,dc2 was only just 3, now they're blobbing their way round to the neighbours by car. All my fault. I'm fed up with being boring sicky Mummy.

LooL00 · 03/06/2010 13:40

oops!

SummerDaisy · 03/06/2010 13:57

Hello all, I'm new and have been reading all the comments with interest - poor ladies!

I am 27 weeks, first child and have SPD - ouch, ouch and double ouch!
Am just back to work after being signed off for 2 weeks. Saw the physio last week, which helped a bit,got a pretty tubi-grip band for belly and a belt, which help but don't get rid of the pain Have been told to rest, but like others have said - pretty difficult with a full time job!! Luckily I don't have to contend with any other little ones at the moment -
I know this sounds bad, but having just returned to work, all I want to do is get signed off again! Still have a long way to go til the big day (13 weeks) and even though I am sitting down for most of the day, it is so painful. Am feeling really guilty for feeling this way, and also that I would be bored and frustrated sat at home. We really need the money, as I get no sick pay, but I am so worried that by carrying on I will make things worse and I have never been off work before for more than a week before.
It does all get on top of you a bit, doesn't it? I know there are people much worse off than me, and I hope it is a temporary thing, but god bless these forums where you can offload and get a bit of support from fellow sufferers

MrsMiamla · 03/06/2010 14:40

hi sumerdaisy, you must be due close to me. welcome and moan away! we all know what you're going through

and welcome to you too ohEx

well i had my appt with the physio this morning and she has confirmed spd so i'm officially allowed to sit on the sofa with you all now She was very sweet, seemed to know her stuff. What I was surprised about, but in hindsight it makes perfect sense, she said that resting wasn't what i should be doing because of my back. But my pelvis would benefit from resting so i need to alternate between the two! I'm currently in resting mode (well as much as one can with a toddler seeking entertainment!)

argh, talking of which..got to go!

MrsMiamla · 03/06/2010 14:53

forgot to say... ohEx you have to stop lifting things...NOW!
rewrite your job description, if only for you to read. If a collleague was going through what you're doing, you'd help her, right?

SummerDaisy · 03/06/2010 15:20

Thanks for the welcome!
I really do think that as women we are quite often martyrs, worrying about everyone else all the time (of course)and then we feel bad for worrying about ourselves, plus the guilt cos at the moment I just feel so helpless! I keep thinking 'just get on with it' and it seems others feel the same way too - but it's really sometimes not the right way to think!

I've read quite a few of these messages and we really need to listen to people that have gone through it as well and the 'experts'- DON'T do things to make it worse!!!! I am thinking that no job is worth making your health worse for! I never thought sitting at a desk could be so painful Roll on 5.30pm!

Oh and I totally agree with some of the comments about people make you feel bad as they think you are making a meal of it, or even faking it!! I've felt a bit like that. Have had comments like 'try going to a pilates class to sort your back out'and 'get back into work you'll be fine once you move around a bit??!! Thanks for that really helpful medical advice!! This is really unacceptable! guess I am a bit more touchy at the moment than usual...

LeoniPoni · 03/06/2010 15:44

Hi Summerdaisy and OhEx! More the merrier!

OhEx It's totally up to you if you want to go and see your physio again. Maybe you could call them and explain you've suffered with SPD before and you remember all the advice so is there anything else they can do, to make it worth you going?

Also, another soap box moment - Stop lifting lady!!

Summerdaisy Poor you It's hard enough being pregnant and in pain without loading guilt on to yourself. Take it easy on your body and yourself! I wasn't entitled to any sick pay either as I work through an agency and I was loath to take any time off as we couldn't really afford it. But health comes first and in the end I was signed off. Try not to put too many expectations on yourself. If you need time to rest, then thats what you need!

MrsM Yay glad you got a nice physio! Stay active for your back, take it easy for your SPD?? I don't envy you that juggling act!

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