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rainbowdays · 13/10/2009 16:33

Sorry I could not think of an original title

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greedygreedyguzzler · 14/02/2010 18:24

big snogs to everyone on valentines day!!

Ready · 14/02/2010 19:48

mwaaaaaaah

Fettle · 15/02/2010 18:02

HElloooooooooooooooo. Anyone here? Or are you all off on fun family half-term holidays?

I'm so missing DH at the moment - not in a depressed sad way, but a "I can't be bothered to do anything, I want my husband home to do things with me" type of way! Only 7 weeks to go - hopefully. Seems so short, but each day seems to take an age at the moment. These last few weeks are always the worst though!

Had a bit of a panic last week - had to call for an ambulance for Toby as he had a croup attack and wasn't breathing properly. Absolutely terrifying and I hope it never happens again. He was fine after some oxygen and a trip in the ambulance to the hospital for some steroids. Cost me a fortune in a taxi to get home again afterwards though, with Toby loose on my lap and a crazy taxi driver. Thankfully my Mum was here, so I didnt' have to worry about DD while Toby and I went to hospital.

Anyway, bathtime calls, so best get on....

Hope you all happy, healthy etc etc.

xxx

greedygreedyguzzler · 16/02/2010 08:31

must have been really scary fettle. croup is horrible. ellis had it once and really freaked me and himself out when he couldn't breathe properly, and the barking is just wierd. that is the time when it must be really really hard not having dh around, but i bet he feels terrible not being there with you too.

oh well, it is my dh's birthday today so we are off out for the day.............not sure where yet.....see ya!

Ready · 16/02/2010 14:24

Happy birthday Greedy's hubbie. have a great day

not good about the croup Fettle, hope all is well now.

Things are good here - we are officially down to 2 naps a day. woo. H is a little poppet, I just LOVE spending my days with her. Not that I didn't before, but I used to worry about every little aspect, and now it seems so much more relaxed ... got her on video absolutely cracking up laughing, and I must have watched it back about 20 times - it is the best thing. I tried to replicate the laughter with the same crazy blanket trick, but it just isn't funny anymore. Boooo.

Hope everyone is just dandy. What are you having on your pancakes tonight? My batter is in the fridge 'resting' for tea time, and H is going to have her first ever pancakes - sans sugar and goo, but some mushed up banana instead .

xx

iamamummy · 16/02/2010 15:50

hey ladies!!!

oh fettle poor toby and poor you!! that must have been so scary, hope the little mite is ok now.

greedy - enjoy your day out!

ready - aw i did that when oscat first said dada it was sooo cute and everytime i watched it i used to well up...still do now actually! i hope hannah enjoys her pancakes tonight, oscar is having some too for the first time..not quite sure why he didnt have them last year.

lottie - how are the girls doing? do you find you are settling more into a routine now?

those of you that are selling things/clearing out have you tried other internet sites like pre-loved and netmums? i offload loads of my bits there and there is no fees to pay at the end!

all is going well here, we are yet again suffering with a cold, the boys are really chesty too so just seems to be one thing after another at the moment.

honeyapple · 16/02/2010 20:26

hi all

fettle- how horrible . Hope Toby doesnt make a habit of getting croup- a friend's daughter gets it quite frequently. (dont mean to panic you!) I know after Dex had bronchiolitis they said he was quite likely to get it again (although touch wood he hasn't and that was ages ago).

ready- enjoyed your pancakes? We had a pancake session for lunch (I had to look away when DC were pouring on the sugar and syrup). Glad to hear you are feeling more relaxed with H- so much so that you are giving her pancakes to eat! (Isnt there some egg thing?)

x

Fettle · 16/02/2010 21:13

Thanks girls!

I think if he does get it again - at least I won't panic and I've been given some tricks to try and stop the attack (such as taking him outside for a blast of cold air!). TBH they said it would last about a week and would peak after 3 days, but we've had nothing since and only a little cough during the days, with some snot, but it's nowhere near as bad a cold as he's had at other times - all a very weird, but scary episode!

Still shatteroonied at the moment thought, despite a couple of daytime naps/lie-ins courtesey of my mother - thin kthe last few months are catching up on me!

Feels pretty close now though, now that Lent starts tomorrow and he should be home before Easter (Everything crossed!).

Ready · 17/02/2010 14:32

Eggs. Well, I looked into eggs as I had read that it was a potential allergen, and my BLW book says that eggs are fine after 6 months. To be cautionary if there are allergies in the family... which there are none.

honeyapple · 17/02/2010 15:00

ready- ah jolly good! I seem to remember being told not to give eggs till 1yr- or more specifically egg whites... heh ho! Honey is another weird one...

Fettle · 17/02/2010 16:35

Hello

eggs are ok after 6 months if no family allergies. Honey is to do with possible bacteria in the honey that's why you shouldn't give before a year. Seems a bit overly cautious to me but probably along the line of blue cheese and risk of listeria in pregnancy. The actual risk is v small but if you do get it it can be very serious so not worth risk?

Did hannah enjoy pancakes?
Xxx

Ready · 17/02/2010 19:33

Honey has the botulism risk I think. It's such a shame cos I reckon she would love it. But I won't be giving that.
I read that about egg whites too, but apparently it is an old guideline from the WHO and now so long as cooked through, it is fine. H had the thinnest most well cooked pancake - and to be honest Fettle, she wasn't all that bothered, she was more interested in waving it about, and then pushing it to the side to get at the banana. Loves bananas.

xx

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honeyapple · 18/02/2010 15:30

oh lottie it is so difficult to say anything to help without being actually with you and seeing Eve. It must be so hard with 2 and I can totally understand how you want them to keep to a similar routine- but perhaps it is something that you are going to have to put to one side for a little while? As you say, it could be that Eve isn't hungry and she doesnt like being force fed! What happens when you stop offering her milk and sit her up? Is she still screaming? Can you settle her and then try to feed her 10mins later? Or is it the opposite and she is too hungry to latch on properly and is getting frustrated? Can you try offering her milk earlier than your normal feed time? I am sure you have tried all these things. You must try to keep as calm yourself as possible (difficult i know) as babies will pick up on your feelings. Sorry to hear DH is working so much . THINGS WILL GET BETTER! BIG HUGS!xx

greedygreedyguzzler · 18/02/2010 17:38

oh lottie lottie lottie. honey is right............things WILL get easier! just keep clinging onto that...............and what a superstar mum you are to those girls.

my poor little marcy isnt very well! typical! she woke up at 6am being sick and hasn't stopped since! actually, she has been sick 12 times so far, cos i am keeping count. i think 7 times in a day is the most we have ever managed before and that was ellis. poor ickle thing. just waiting for the other two to start now...........

Fettle · 18/02/2010 18:01

Oh Lottie - sorry to hear you are finding things hard - even if you know deep down that it will get better, that doesn't make it any easier now I would think! It does sound to me from your other thread, that perhaps reflux is an issue? DD used to scream pretty much constantly all day until bathtime - thankfully for me DH was in a job which meant on the whole he was home at 5.30pm every day (sometimes he had to go back to the office later, but he was always home for bath Anyway, I got side-tracked, basically she would stop crying when he took her - not sure why. But to cut a long story short, we were in and out of the GPs surgery with her and finally were sent up to the hospital for a check-up. And of course she was happy and smiley for the consultant! She suddenly stopped at about 16 weeks, but had started at around 6 weeks and it was awful!

When my HV here came after Toby was born I was discussing her symptoms with her and she diagnosed reflux almost instantly. It is certainly worth a go - Toby had it too, but we caught it early and a few weeks treatment with infant gaviscon, seemed to settle him and he was fine again.

Just hang onto the fact that you are doing fantastically! It is a real pain that your cleaning help is stopping - have you or DH made any contacts out there? Could you afford to find someone else to come and help out, even if it was only once/twice a week, so you didn't have to think about the state of the house? Can your mother come back for a while? So many questions! It is awful when DH's have to work, and it's not much concilation, but I'm sure he hates seeing you like this and would rather be home helping than out at work at all hours.

Sorry - have to go as bathtime!

xxx

Fettle · 18/02/2010 18:02

Also meant to say - poor Marcy - hope everyone else avoids it - sounds a nasty bug!

xxx

rainbowdays · 19/02/2010 12:16

Lottie - I will say like the others have that you are doing fantastically. The six-week mark is not an easy one. I am sorry that it just is a matter of coping and trying out various things to see what works for you. You have already been given excellent advice, and part of me wants to just say nothing but that you will get through this one way or another and it will all settle down again. However, I also will give so suggestions and you can take or leave as you feel is appropriate, as you are the best judge of what your little ladies need the best. - firstly have you tried gripe-water or gaviscon or any such thing to see if it helps in case it is reflux especially with eve? - secondly, if you can get any help do so, you need to get as much rest as you can. - thirdly, this is the hardest one as it is easier to say than do, if Eve is getting upset at the breast, it is important that you try to stay relaxed, if you are upset it will not help your flow of breastmilk, so if possible do anything to help yourself relax, music/tv, anything so that you are not focussing on feeding but focussing on relaxing while feeding. If Eve's fussing is too much then as Honey said, try settling her first, I understand you trying to feed the two girls at the same time, but it is possible that Eve is going through a growth-spurt before Juliet or vice-versa, and you might need to alter the feeding routine slightly for a little bit. Even with singletons this six week mark is tough, but you are strong and doing brilliantly, and you will get through this.

greedy - sorry to hear you have a sick-bug in the house, hope things improve quickly.

I am getting more nauseaous,,,,, yey!!!!!

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londonlottie · 19/02/2010 16:46

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honeyapple · 19/02/2010 18:01

lottie- please please please keep on with the BF- you have got this far and doing brilliantly- nearly at the easy stage . I know others have been happier with bottle feeding but it really breaks my heart to hear women stopping earlier than they would want. Bottle feeding will not miraculously cure your tiredness- but time will .

right- and now for my GRRRRR of the day. i have stayed in all day for a courier to collect buggy i sold on ebay- only for the basterd UPS man to stick a note through my door saying I was not in- WHEN I WAS BLOOMING IN- ALL DAY- AND MY CAR IS ON THE DRIVE!!!!! So cross I cannot even begin to explain. He can't have rung the door bell. I found the card with the time 2.20pm on it and checked my clock and it was 2.25pm WTF?
Fortunatley woman who bought buggy very understanding- but i mean, how rubbish it that? I have said to her I would rather drive 30mins to a UPS depot than wait another day for potential same to happen...

aaahahhhhahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Fettle · 19/02/2010 20:00

Hi all

Not got long - got myself addicted to Eastenders while DH is away and want to see the live episode!!

Lottie - I agree with Honey, try to keep up the breast-feeding as long as you can - as it does get easier as they get older. However, I also strongly believe that Happy Mummy = Happy Baby.

Keep it up - you really are doing fantastically well!!!

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Fettle · 20/02/2010 07:41

Hi lottie

that is one of the ways it gets easier - they become much more efficient feeders and your boobs more efficient milk suppliers so feeds become quicker. Believe me they'll be getting enough in that short time! I'm amazed at your expressing abilities!!!
Also they'll start to almost latch themselves on so it becomes easier to handle them. Feed intervals will stretch out so you feed them less frequently as they start getting more at each feed and their tummies grow.
You also will become happier and more confident in all things motherhood and everything will seem easier!!!

Wel those are some of my thoughts but I'm being fussed by toby so have to go. I'm sure honey or rainbow will have more informed useful things to say!!!

rainbowdays · 20/02/2010 09:30

Lottie - wow you are doing great. I was taking into account the prem bit, although this becomes rapidly insignificant, they are in some ways at the 6 week mark. At the stage they are at now, they will be getting very efficient at feeding, and you will find that they can get a full feed in about 10 mins easily!!!! It is difficult to trust that they will take what they need. As Fettle said the feed intervals will start stretch out now. They are bigger now, and with their more efficient feeding, they will be able to go longer inbetween feeds and take less time to feed, it will be much easier for you very soon. With breastfeeding, I always found the first hurdle was 2 weeks, the next 6 weeks, and then suddenly by 12 weeks the breastfeeding was so easy (well with ds1 it took to about 16 weeks to be very easy, but it was ok by 12 weeks I just still had latching problems with him). So I would say that over the next 3 weeks if you start spacing out the feeds and just trusting that if they had a quick 10 min feed and then are not interested that you try to just believe that they have had enough. I found it easiest to think about feed times around my meal times. So I would give a breakfast, lunch dinner and supper feeds around the times when I would be eating, then I would give a night-time feed if needed. I found that mine dropped the night-time feeds quite quickly. They still woke up during the night, but did not need feeding every time. That was a tough one to trust that they did not need a feed just because they had woken up, but tiredness on my part made it important for me to get as much sleep as possible, and feeding when they were only snuggling instead of feeding became too much for me.

Lottie, bottle feeding is definitely not easier, so if you can manage to keep going for another 3 weeks or so, you will enter easy-street with breastfeeding if that is what you want. A quick pop onto the boob for 5 or 10 mins, compared to sterilizing, preparing and bottle feeding, is no comparison. No dragging bottles out with you everywhere you go, no messing about with have I got enough feeds with me, as I am not sure how long I will be out for.... It is just my experience, my ds1 was mixed fed bottle and breastfeeding, and I switched to total bottle at 7 months, whereas with ds2 I exclusive breastfed him and continued his breastfeeds til he was 14months. There is no doubt in my mind that breastfeeding is easier in the longer run. It is just very tiring in the first weeks. Remember you are doing fantastically.

Honey - grrrrr, delivery men are not nice. Glad your buyer was understanding.

Fettle - I don't watch Eastenders normally, but was facinated to see how a live recording would go, I was very impressed. However, at the end even though I have no idea of who was murdered or anything, I missed the line of who actually did it as my dh started making noise.... so can you put me out of my misery and tell me what was said - who did it???? Did she say "I did it" or someone else.

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honeyapple · 20/02/2010 09:47

hi all

lottie- great advice from fettle and rainbow . Just to reconfirm- babies do get really quick at feeding from the breast- you should be pleased that you can get them on and off in 10 mins- that is brilliant. Also some babies need to feed in the night, others don't. My DD slept from about midnight last feed to 6-7 in the morning from about 6wks old- and she was fine with it. My boobs weren't! I would wake up all wet- not nice- so ended up sleeping with a towel wrapped around me! But after a while my body got used to it and I began to produce milk according to when DD needed it. Now your babies are getting bigger you might want to let them lead the feeding schedule a bit more- and hopefully let you get some more sleep. Perhaps they would have slept on without needing that 4.45am top up? Anyway- yes you are doing a FAB job.

Talking about BF v. FF and going out- a friend of mine had a terrible experience when she got stuck in some horrendous traffic jam on the M25 with her 3wk old baby- and she had no FF- and she was stuck for hours and eventually had to ring the police to get her out . Baby was fine but she said it was so awful not being able to feed her. (Obviously this is a bit extreme example- but it just shows how brilliant BF is!)

Courier is coming on monday- and as an apology they have given me a 3hr time slot instead of all day- hoping i dont have to sit by the front door for 3hrs though!