Totally's GRADS...lets handhold thru this....

[boodleboot]

Ok girls....time to get started....

lee stressy amyboo totally

and of course any other ladies who have recently had a Big Scary Fat Positive and will now literally be counting the days to healthy babe in arms, welcome y'all

i have no idea how i am going to make it but i know that i will need handholding....and knowing lots of you already i know you will too ha ha

{Totally's conception thread got me thus far with lots of handholding and i love them for that....}

BRING ON THE BABIES.....

dont worry TFLS..all these ailments remind me that Im 31 weeks pregnant..I couldnt be happier!

found this place...early scan is £95
Baby Scan Studio

having a go at list .... amy and hoops i have put you guys as 36 weeks as am assuming you have slipped over to that now (last few lists you are at 35) everyone else just added 2 days from boos last list

i need to mae a mw booking in appointment at 10 weeks before scan which should comet hrough for around we

freezing haven't added you as don't have your details, I got early scan because of 2 previous mc's, this pregnancy directly following an mc with no normal cycle and GP who has had 7 mc's and is as a result very sympathetic to the anxiety it causes

emmielou welcome, fingers crossed for you, it is a worrying time, also haven't added you to the list in case you decide we are a bunch of nutters and you would rather hang out elsewhere

by the way ladies - I am no longer bottom of the grads list - get yee to the other thread and take a look...

Amy - BOY - 36 wks - due 02 April
Hoops - BOY - 36 wks - due 02 April
Jacanne - GIRL - 30+6 wks - due 29th April/6 May - mat leave starts 26th Feb
Memorylapse - GIRL 31+2 wks - due 4th May
Meita - baby#1 - ??? - 16+1 wks, due 17th August - MW 4th March, 2nd scan 1st April
Boodleboot - baby#3 - 1DD {10} 1DS {5} - 12+1- due 16th Sept 20wk scan - 4th May
TFLS - baby#1 - 10+2 wks, due 29 Sept
LeeWT - baby#2 (DD1 2yrs) 9+6 weeks, due 30th Sept - 12 wk scan 26th March
MrsRigby - baby#2 (DS 15 months), 9+3 weeks, EDD 7th October
SamanthaB123 baby#3(2x DD's 11 & 9 yrs) 7+1 wks EDD 20th October
Cheepz - baby#2 (DS1 2.8) 6+5 weeks, EDD 22nd Oct, mw booking appt ay 10wks

We share the pain and mourn the loss with:
Jollster - baby#2, MMC w9/@11, 26th Feb

The babies are arriving! Huge congratulations to:
Totally with daughter Faith Juliet, 9lb5oz born Tuesday 16th February 2010 V

Hello! (waves)

Don't have much time, have the house full of guests for the week... just wanted to say:

Congrats Boodle and Cheepz on the scans - you must be so relieved! So glad to hear it went well.

Welcome freezing and emmilou if you are of the slightly unhinged type, you've come to the right place !

Amyboo and Hoops, I hope your LOs stay or turn into the right position! Crazy how time seems to have flown by in hindsight, when it moves so, so, so slowly when going forward!

Jacanne how is maternity leave treating you?

Jollster still gutted for you. And think it's v. unreasonable to make you wait such a long time. It's crazy how differently the NHS treats you from place to place, and even from time to time in the same place. There seems to me no rule nor rhyme to it.

Memory ah, must feel good to have a travel system (i.e. one thing less to organise)! I feel quite overwhelmed by it all... there is so much to think about, and so little time!

TFLS It IS a bit of torture, isn't it! I think the time of your former MC(s) is particularly worrying. Thinking of you - and sending you an extra portion of sticky vibes.

As for myself, I'm sort of moving between panicking, due to a kind of 'feeling' that I'm not pregnant any more, and freaking out because my bump seems to be growing way too fast and although it's clearly what I want, I feel a bit uncomfortable in my body. Irrational? Me?

We're having a quadri-lingual week... Friends are staying with their two kids. The mum is Swiss German and speaks Swiss German with the kids. Dad is Italian and speaks Italian with the kids. They live in the French speaking part of Switzerland and the kids speak French to each other. The dad does not speak nor understand Swiss German, so French and Italian are their "lingua franca". However my DP's French is quite poor, and I don't speak any Italian, so among us grown-ups we speak English for everybody to understand. So we seem to be constantly moving between languages and happily mixing up words and sentences The kids, already tri-lingual although they're just 3 and 5, seem to be picking up quite a lot of English too! Pretty amazing

Haven't got much time as trying to pack for visit to my sisters for a few day but here are my details for the next time someone does a list
baby #2 (DD 18 months) EDD 21st Oct so I suppose I'm 6wk + 4 based on cheepz dates!

Thanks for the information about the scans, I'll just have to wait until I get my appt though and take it from there if its not an early one.

Girls can i just check with you? hopefully panicking about nothing but last night to a certain extent and tonight for sure i am suffering period like cramps.. quite uncomfortable really.

do you think its something to worry about?

Lee..try not to panic..I used to frequently get period like cramps in the first 12 weeks..I sometimes get them now too..I think it might be the uterus growing and stretching

thanks memory i was sitting waiting for someone to write back.. i did read on some website that around 10 weeks theres a spurt of development and stretching so hopefully its that..

OMG !!!!!!!!!How busy!!

Hi to *EMMIELOU and FREEZING" Welcome aboard!!!

Yeh CHEEPZ Fabulous news

TFLS my private scan is £90 and they haven t asked for a gps letter they accept self referrals!!! Seems a bit odd to me they are wanting a gp letter if you re paying...Can t u "elaborate" a story to the EPU{think we might have had that discussion before!]

Good luck to AMY and HOOPS glad all is well, not long now!!!!

LEE i too have been having stretching pains find it reassuring as never had it before.

Well a busy day, saw ob consultant, who was lovely, shes recommended i start hormone injections [luteal support] 2x a week from now untill 14 weeks, scanned every 2 weeks and start "baby" aspirin and she will review me in 4 weeks. She was soo nice.Then had my regular accunpuncture session, my practitioner was soo happy for me and is soo sweet.So tomorrows an AL day but i m traipsing off to have my first injection.I m postponing my private scan at present [not cancelling as they ve taken a £30 deposit] for the time being if they are scanning me regularly.I m knackered its all go this pg lark i ve never been to as many hospital appointments as i have in the last 6 months!!!!!!

Hi to everyone else hope you re all well.X

cheepz great news about the scan....brilliant in fact.

lee i was convinced for ages that i was about to have a period at 9 1/2wks...that is why i went off to EPU to be scanned but she assured me it was just stretching and pulling on my scar tissue from EP...DON't WORRY.

i am off to work now and REALLY not in a happy mood about that but at least i have my piano lesson later on

Thanks boodle that's reassuring and we know boodlebean is thriving!

Lou that's great they are giving you so much help and assistance and how great that we have all these gorgous babbies with heartbeats

tfls hope you get your scan!

Wondering how apples is?

And yes there has been another significant bfp on the original thread!! Hopefully she will come over soon.. I honestly cannot try and keep up with the old thread!!

Have a nice day everyone xxx

Good news cheepz
My private early scan is on the 12th, self referred, costing £90, couldnt get one on the nhs where I am.
Saw the midwife yesterday, who still had my old details in her file, and assumed i'd had a scan in December, had to explain that that was when I had the mmc. Im booked in for my nhs scan on the 7th April, ages away, but I hope to god I get that far. According to the midwife im due on the 18th October.

who who who who??? i haven't even bookmarked the old thread so can't go check......

come on louise spill the beans!!

Good morning

Lee try not to worry. (I know it's hard!) I got a NCT newsletter yesterday as have been inquiring about their antenatal courses, and it says under "symptoms to watch out for..."
"Abdominal pain...
Abdominal pain can be caused by trapped wind, indigestion, heartburn or ligament strain. Call your midwife if there is also:

• bleeding, with or without tight abdomen

-> Risk of miscarriage or haemorrhage

• severe pain in upper right abdomen, especially if you also have a headache or swelling

-> Risk of pre-eclampsia"

Not sure if that applies to you 100%, but I'm going with the rule of thumb: Cramps/pains alone are ok, a slight bleed is frightening and needs checking but is probably ok, start worrying if you get both at once.

Can I have some hand-holding please?
Saw a midwife today. Just wrote a huge rant about it - I can't believe how much you can do wrong in a five minutes appointment... But anyway, decided I'd leave it at saying they managed, over all, to make me feel as if they'd prefer me having an MC because that would mean less work for them. Maybe I'm being oversensitive. But it has left me in tears...
The disappointment at the end when they refused to listen for the heartbeat was really the most minor issue. I felt pressured into signing stuff and denied access to important information. Oh well. They probably had a bad day. I know of a midwife who has to go back to work after experiencing an MC, they're just human too, I'm sure it's not always easy to be empathic, especially when you're under time pressure.

I think what's troubling me so much right now is that right now it feels like I cannot rely on the medical establishment to see me through this pregnancy, but I cannot do it myself either. (In the sense of, I cannot learn all I'd need to know to be able to make the judgement calls that you'd normally rely on the midwives to make).

Oh drat, I'd better stop now, it's turning into another huge rant.

I hope everyone is fine!

Arh....MEITA i know how you feel my whole experience of midwifes has been crap,crap,crap.Anything i want to know i contact EPU or my colleagues...

Can t possibly say HOOPS !!!!!!!! he he!!

Itotally agree LEE lets hope we all have the babies we deserve...

Been to EPU for my hormone injection , absolutely fine.The staff are lovely injection took all of 5 mins....They ve put my scan back to next Thurs, that keeps it in line every 2 weeks.So traipse off again on monday...

I ve postponed my private scan for now....they said i could ring at any time soo i ll keep it on hold for now. They ve kept my deposit soo no probs with that.Right , off to start my AL day

i found the thread and am soooo pleased by that news....hope she hops over soon.

Memory - thanks for that link, really appreciated. I rang re my NHS scan this morning (took 25 minutes of the engaged tone to get through) and after much begging they have moved it forward to Monday 22 March. Not their fault that they are so full. At least it's not on my mum's birthday - we are all meeting up for a family celebration and I was worrying about how I'd get through that if the scan was bad news (definitely got my glass half empty head on at the moment!). Still debating getting an earlier scan privately - half desperate to know and half scared of what I might find out. Will put my head back under the sand for now!

The advice re 10 weeks pains was also really useful. I got period like cramps last night Lee - but keep telling myself that I'm bound to get more twinges if things are going well as space will be needed!

Sorry we're all teasing you Hoops!

Apples - yes, if you're lurking let us know how you are.

Meita - rant away (and have a very un-mumsnet like hug!). It's so disappointing when someone in a position of care like that lacks the necessary skills. This is a massive, life-changing event for us. My midwife is a really cold fish. I was actually shocked when I got a smile out of her at the last booking appointment. She even gets you to fill in all the forms and paperwork in advance of the booking in appointment to save her time despite the paperwork not being designed for that. I found myself ticking the box - no I don't need a referral to social services thank you. And she whisked through everything in the fashion you described. So sorry you ended up feeling so bad - you are far from oversensitive so she must have been pretty poor to upset you so much. When are you due to see her next? I was told I would alternate appointments between the midwife and doctor so hopefully your next appointment will be better. Is there anything in particular where you don't feel you were probably briefed as I'm sure the more experienced ladies on here would be happy to help. To be honest, I've learned so much off this site (not the most scientific approach I know but bags of common sense always thrown in!). Maybe sleep on it and think about contacting her or the surgergy with some feedback tomorrow?
Anyway, sorry for the long ramble. Just hope you're feeling a bit better now - it's horrible when someone gets under your skin like that.

I want Louisesh's consultant!! Glad they are looking after you so well - you deserve it!

Very impressed by your piano lessons boodle. We have a piano (inherited) but no-one can play it!

meita I would insist on listening to the babys heartbeat at every appointment. With DS1 it was a standard check and for women post mc I think that reassurance is mentally one of the most important things, as well as it being wonderful. I had a fairly matter of fact business like mw last time and I had to be quite bullish about what I needed from her, I would not let her rush me and I insisted on what I needed to feel reassured. I think they sometimes forget how challenging it is for most women going through pregnancy especially the first time and in order to avoid dealing with what they deem to be overanxious first time mothers making a fuss they try and rail road you. Don't accept it. You are entitled to their time, information and any checks - its not like it takes very long to find the babys heartbeat and listed for a few seconds. I expect this time around I will be abit more laid back about the information because it is not so new .... but I will want to hear my babys heartbeat every time, if I get resistanc, I will either shout or cry - both seem to work reasonably effectively!

TFLS as for when I'm seeing them again (it's a "team" which basically simply means I see someone different every time. Hate it.), I suppose it's at about 28 weeks (scan at 20 weeks and supposed to see GP at 24 weeks IIRC). Thing is, she never even mentioned a next appointment. That's just one of the things, all quite minor in themselves, but they add up to create a feeling of being a burden to them.
I could just monitor my blood pressure myself and get some of those urine test strips... no need to bother them again until 36 weeks or so. Except I wouldn't get my health in pregnancy grant.
It all sounds as if I'm upset at nothing. Suppose I should just be glad that "all is fine". Why am I being so emotional right now? Compared to how I'm feeling right now, I was a picture of calmness in the last three months. Someone pour some cold water over my head please!

Louise I hope those injections will do the trick!

Effilump Must have been difficult explaining to the MW. That's it really... they only know what you tell them. Why then are they so uninterested in what you have to say? It seems they don't even care (enough to put it into the notes) if you have an MC.
(Sorry - probably that's just me projecting my experience onto everyone else). To us, these babies are so important - to them, they are just one in thousands, or worse, lots of work.

In order to do at least one useful thing today, here's the list :
Freezing, have added you on, but changed your weeks to one day ahead of cheepz rather than one day behind. Hope that's ok

Thursday
Amy - BOY - 36 wks - due 02 April
Hoops - BOY - 36 wks - due 02 April
Memorylapse - GIRL 31+3 wks - due 4th May
Jacanne - GIRL - 31 wks - due 29th April/6 May - mat leave starts 26th Feb
Meita - baby#1 - ??? - 16+2 wks, due 17th August - 2nd scan 1st April
Boodleboot - baby#3 - 1DD {10} 1DS {5} - 12+2- due 16th Sept 20wk scan - 4th May
TFLS - baby#1 - 10+3 wks, due 29 Sept
LeeWT - baby#2 (DD1 2yrs) 10 weeks, due 30th Sept - 12 wk scan 26th March
MrsRigby - baby#2 (DS 15 months), 9+4 weeks, EDD 7th October
SamanthaB123 baby#3(2x DD's 11 & 9 yrs) 7+2 wks EDD 20th October
Freezing - baby#2 (DD 18 months) 7w EDD 21st Oct
Cheepz - baby#2 (DS1 2.8) 6+6 weeks, EDD 22nd Oct, mw booking appt ay 10wks

We share the pain and mourn the loss with:
Jollster - one DC, two babies lost, recent MMC w9/@11, 26th Feb

The babies are arriving! Huge congratulations to:
Totally with daughter Faith Juliet, 9lb5oz born Tuesday 16th February 2010 V

A-ha, have found out, she's one of the originals, tis fab news

oh cheepz I wish I could have insisted. She was just so "We don't do that anymore. We used to do it but policy has changed." It sounded as if resistance was futile, and it was at the end of a very disheartening appointment, I didn't have it in me to protest. I tried, I really did, to get my questions answered... but I had to fight even to ask them and when I didn't get answers... it was as if she'd said explicitly "I don't have time for this nonsense now, please stop bothering me" and that finished me off. It wasn't at all like "don't worry, everything seems to be ok and there is no reason to expect otherwise" but rather like "I don't care if you and your baby are going to be ok, please leave so I can see the next person."

Am now considering getting one of those doppler thingies for myself. Didn't want to as felt that once per month at the appointments would be enough.

Anyway, enough of that now, I need to stop thinking about it. Will sleep over it and decide on next steps tomorrow. Will probably involve making DP promise to be extra nice to me and treat me to something.

Sorry all, am clearly having an emotional, self-centred, self-pity day - trying to blame the hormones, but hey, you're all there with me, no pretending here!

Ooooh meita if you get one, can you tell me if its any good, I nearly bought one last time but then they were listening once a month so I didn't bother.

I think you are being very rational all things considered but as you say tis done now so chill and focus on enjoying the babe growing in your belly! If it happens again though I would say something about the mw to the practise as a whole, it is so unacceptable to just be treated like a nuisance - it is their job to make sure everything is ok and there is nothing that stops them from doing it nicely. I feel like being a ryal bitch at work sometimes, and with my job I could even get away with it as my job is to make sure people do the right thin and bollock them when they don't - but I still manage to bollock them nicely when I need to so they feel like they have had a mild scolding as oppose to having strips torn off! Couple of times last year when I was going through tough times I was not in the mood for dealing with peoples crap and petty noise and I would have loved to vent at them, but its not very professional!

Anyway as you say, get DP to give you a treat

btw DH and I have not had sex since conceived - I am abit scared of mc! Any offers of useful advice? He has not been bothering me for it, but I am having the odd horny evening but not chasing him down on account of concern it might cause bleeding - am I being a nutter?

meita hon as someone else said it really isnt like you to be oversensitve they are obviously a pile of wagons!

tfls thats good you got your scan brought forward.. i have been ringing about mine, you'd think i was asking for free money.. have my community midwife on the case and she's trying to find out for me tomorrow morning.. fingers crossed pleeeease..

cheepz well done for even wanting to.. honestly i think we've done the deed twice since my bfp and to be honest that was charitable on my behalf. dh is feeling most neglected but what can i say? i feel really FAT and SICK and UNATTRACTIVE and TIRED so it's just not happening. but if you want to, i'd go for it, as far as i know its perfectly safe unless youve been bleeding..

effilump i wish scans were that reasonable here. but at £250 a pop i cant justify it!

CHEEPZ us too, not had sex since mid Jan!!!! .....Am wanting to but we are both too scared .We both know theres no way it ll cause a MC but like you all know if you ve been there before you have these irrational thoughts.Think we ll resume "normal" service[ or servicing!!!!] after my 12 week scan then can be totally reassured. So n only ? 3 weeks to go OMG1!!!

Popping in briefly before bed - just wanted to say meita don't you dare beat yourself up about today. It sounds like she shouldn't be left in charge of battery hens (apologies to battery hens) let alone pregnant women! . Hate the thought of her upsetting you so much - you are our voice of calm and serenity!

Hopefully the one up side of their pot luck booking system might be you don't see her again.

Anyway, hope you get a good night's sleep tonight.

Lee - will have my fingers crossed for you.

And cheepz - can you please remind me what sex is? SWI is a very distant memory. Hard to feel amorous when you feel shattered and sick but I'm 100% certain that it won't cause a m/c. Might cause my DH to keel over in shock though at finally getting some action again