Totally's GRADS...lets handhold thru this....

[boodleboot]

Ok girls....time to get started....

lee stressy amyboo totally

and of course any other ladies who have recently had a Big Scary Fat Positive and will now literally be counting the days to healthy babe in arms, welcome y'all

i have no idea how i am going to make it but i know that i will need handholding....and knowing lots of you already i know you will too ha ha

{Totally's conception thread got me thus far with lots of handholding and i love them for that....}

BRING ON THE BABIES.....

yikes meita your midewife experience sounds vile. i am off to my first antenatal appt now and not really looking forward to it...when do they start listening to heartbeat? after the twelve wk scan or later than that?

will post later in full as got two mins before gotta leave....

xx

Hi again ladies, thanks to all for the welcome!

Sorry I didn't get chance to reply after my 1st post the other day, had a full scale drama! So, started with really strong period type cramps and thought 'This is it....' and off to A+E we went.

Luckily, after a positive pregnancy test there, they took me straight over to the EPU where they measured my HCG which came back as quite high, and then went back yesterday morning for a scan which showed a gestational sac in the right place and a yolk sac so a very small positive step in the right direction at least! They have me at 5+3 today, and Im going back at 7+2 for a repeat scan, so hoping and praying that we'll have a heartbeat to see then

They tried to reassure me that no bleeding is a good sign, but as I told them, with 2 prior MMCs, I just don't bleed! Ah the worry.. Just trying to think positively now, and counting down the hours for the next 2 weeks lol

Hope you are all well, sorry for the epic rant there!

emmielou Poor you, good luck and here's wishing the next couple of weeks fly by and you get some good news.
meita I know what you mean about midwives being so dismissive, they seem so rushed, you end up feeling like you are bothering them and are just a nuisance. They dont bother listening to the babys heartbeat until after 24 weeks where I am, which I was so shocked about last time, I take it thats because its when the baby becomes viable, so before that is not worth the effort! Or thats the impression I get.
LeeWT if the scans here where that much I doubt we could justify it either.
And as for sex cheepz we're the same, nothing since we got the bfp, im just too scared to, even though we didnt last time either and we still lost the baby. Its daft, but I just cant until I know everythings ok. Thankfully my OH is very understanding.

Hi all,had the faintest trace of brown spotting this morning so have spent an awful day checking every 10 minutes. Yesterday I managed to have a decent sleep at about 1pm (day off) and had no sickness at all last night, which I thought was a result of sleeping, but then this morning terror set in and I was worried about loss of symptoms.

Back in bed now though, feeling very sick again.
cheepz no sex here either, maybe once since bfp but just too scared, especially now.
I'm 7 weeks tomorrow and trying to talk myself into the fact that my baby now probably has a heartbeat and so far so good...

Boodle - hope your appointment went well today.

Emmielou - what a horrible scare but hopefully it was just that. The trouble is when you've had a bad experience it's really hard not to read the worst into things. Excellent news that your HCG levels and scan were great.

Sarahlou - I had a tiny amount of brown spotting 2 weeks ago and immediately freaked out. My MS also disappeared for 24 hours. But thankfully the spotting went and the MS returned with a vengeance. Is it around when your period would normally be due as I was told that light spotting at that point was quiet common?

Effilump - DH and I were laughing at the lack of sex earlier (well I was laughing, he had a long lost forlorn look on his face!). My reckoning is that if you averaged out all the SWI period with the pregnancy no way jose period - we'd come out with an overall healthy sex life!

SEX? hang on aren't we all pregnant already?? job done i reckon.

appt was great - midwife was very nice but they won't see me again until i am 23wks unless i request it {?} i will be requesting it at 18wks to hear heartbeat make no mistake about that....

just been violently sick again and strained that damn muscle again....hurts to type so will retire for the night.

hope everyone is ok

x

Hi everyone - how are you all - fine I hope? I have just finished my first week of maternity leave and have done more than I do usually so am really tired - will take it easier next week I think. My bump keeps moving up and down, one day it looks high and the next low - not really sure what is going on but still lots of kicking etc. Saw my bump moving up and down very fast like breathing the other day and it wasn't me - very exciting

That other significant BFP you were talking about, was it barrenbrook? She miscarried again today.

I really feel for her, I don't how how she manages to keep going. I really hope she gets a sticky BFP soon.

Haven't been around much I know. Recovering still from pulmonary embolism. Saw the obstetrician and haematologist yesterday, they seem to think that it was the norovirus that caused me to have a blood clot. Monthly reviews, twice daily injections, hospital birth (yet again won't be having home birth) and no epidural.

And if that wasn't enough, I don't feel pregnant. No symptoms at all.

My dating scan is next Friday so I'm hoping that the baby is there and still alive.

Enough about me, how are you all?

sarahlou hows the spotting?
emmielou fingers crossed for a nice fat heartbeat next time you go.
jacanne lovely news about the bump...getting close to the time you are going to have to start thinking about how you gonna get it out eh....are you doing a birth plan?

i am off to help my parents sort out my nanna and poppas house today....nanna died 5yrs ago and the house has finally become to much for pops now at the grand old age of 95 and he is staying with my uncle...all nans stuff is as she left it so is going to be an emotional day i reckon....which is bad news for me as bradleys funeral on eastenders {i don't even watch it as a matter of course } had me howling in tears last night....my daughter found it hilarious...

fully into maternity trews now altho still looking mainly podgy rather than pregnant...my BMI was a revolting number yest as never normally above 26...i took the sting out of that litle piece of news with some mini creme eggs....they seemed to do the trick....

also the DCs have given me worms which i have been trying to shift with lots of washing and clean bedding etc for last week but to no avail. going to have to go to docs as starting to get very sore bellyache now...kids, yuk....i'm not having ANY when i grow up....

Boodle I'm okay I think today, no more spotting, and feeling very queasy again.
Just come home from town looking forward to a rest for a couple of hours to find someone on the doorstep asking to view our house (we are on the market).
AAAggggghhhhhh! Its really messy, I now feel really worked up, so much for a relaxing afternoon!
They liked it though...

Just to let you know, worms...I've had them too, caught from the toddlers at nursery where I work. They only have a 2 week lifespan so theoretically you can eradicate them in 2 weeks, but not sure if you can take the usual medication in pregnancy. I dread getting them again and I'm quite paranoid about it, especially when I know they are going around. They're like nits!!

tfls no period not due yet..just on 7 weeks. I started spotting with the last pg at 6 weeks, 7 & 9 so I told myself if I could get to week 7 with nothing then this baby is different and okay. Feeling all sorts of niggles today so all I can do is wait. We usually tell close family at 7 weeks, I don't feel able to do that yet.

emmielou - how are the cramps? are you ok now?

Morning everyone
Sounds like lots has happened while I've been away. Had a lovely time mostly because my sister took DD out to the petting farm one afternoon and I slept ALL afternoon - it was bliss!

thanks for adding me to the list meita, as I said I'm rubbish with dates so thanks for correcting it
Sorry to hear about your frustrating midwife appointment. I hope next time you get to see a more sympathetic person. I guess that's what so good about mumsnet, you can rant away and everyone actually listens and supports you.

sarahlou good luck with the house sale, life never seems to stop, especially when you need more rest than normal, and want everything to be calm and sorted (well that's how I feel anyway).

Mrs Rigby sorry to hear you're going through so much at the moment, thinking of you

Also, sorry not able to mention everyone - guess it will take a while to get to know you all.

Right off to do some gardening while the sun is shining and DD is sleeping....

Thanks Sarahlou, Boodleboot, Thefatladyscreams, Effilump and anyone else I may have missed!

No more cramps since the day I went in, which is good, just a bloody miserable waiting game now until my scan on the 18th lol really wish I could say Im getting some godawful symptoms, but unfortunately mine only tend to be mild anyway, so other than a roadmap of veins on my boobs and being a little bit tired I feel normal.

I just have to keep remembering that just because I haven't had many symptoms yet doesn't necessarily mean it's all gone horribly wrong again! DH is getting excited and trying to hide it from me bless him, Im just too scared to get my hopes up

Hope everyone has had a relatively peaceful weekend! Well, apart from those of you suffering with MS, and the normal, ridiculously horrible stress of it all... Still, every time I look at my DS and DD Im reminded all over again that it's worth every second of the heartache

Emmielou - good news that you've had no more cramps. I'd have thought if there was a problem, the cramps would have continued so hopefully no news is good news!

Freezingmyarseoff - glad you had a lovely time. Feeling very guilty that you were busy gardening yesterday (looks out of window at wilderness zone).

Sarahlou - I hate having your house on the market. We did a couple of years ago and it kept falling through (we seemed to have all the loons make offers!). Mind you, it has never been so clean since! We are talking about putting it back on the market again this year - just the thought turns my stomach at all the work needed

Boodle - sorry to hear about the worms (might help with the BMI - sorry! ). My BMI is also embarrassing at the moment - made worst by the midwife overcalculating it - yes, I'm still grumpy about that! Hope sorting out the house was OK.

MrsR - thanks for letting us know re barrenbrook. Very sad. Sorry you're having such a tough time of it at the moment - sound like you're really in the wars. Bet you'll be glad not to see a doctor or hospital for a while. Will have my fingers crossed for you for Friday.

Jacanne - here's to a lazy week for you to compensate for last one. Sounds like your little one is a real wriggler!

My news - I'm due to give birth three weeks today! I'm a little surprised as well! Due to get my bloods done and looked at the paperwork my midwife has filled in and she's put my EDD as 29 March on two of them instead of 29 September! Better warn DH!

Hi ladies,

I'll try to find a moment to read back, but for now just wanted to moan a bit... You would think that at 17 weeks I should stop worrying about MC. Well... thing is, I've developed this rash in my face. Didn't think much of it at first ("probably something to do with hormones") but it's been there for a while now and yesterday it suddenly occurred to me that I had read something about rashes somewhere... Indeed, it was in the NHS "pregnancy book" and it says that it could be "slapped cheek disease" (parvovirus B19). This is an incredibly harmless disease, EXCEPT that it ups your risk of MC to 10%.
So, took myself to the GP this morning, will have to go back for a blood test on Wednesday, then will have to wait 2-3 weeks for the results - that won't be easy. Well if it turns out I have indeed contracted it, GP said there is nothing they could do anyway, BUT the NHS guidelines say it would mean regular observation scans to see if the foetus develops "hydrops" and if it does, I would need an intrauterine blood transfusion - which has high success rates. This is a preventable cause of MC. Except of course if they refuse to do the obs/transfusion. Then it would be down to just luck.
So, I'm now hoping that it isn't parvovirus, and that if it is, I won't have to put up too much of a fight to get the close observation. And that it isn't too late already.
The positive side of the story is that the GP at least took me seriously. Part of what he said was in direct contradiction to what I had found out by my own research, but hey, he's not a specialist and if it does turn out that I've got the virus, I can always ask to see a consultant, I suppose. I also got to ask tons of questions that the MW didn't have time for last week, picked up a container for the next urinary sample I need to bring in (which the MW neglected to give me) and sorted out my next appointments (which the MW had failed to discuss with me). So, am feeling better about that now.

On the other hand, I was just starting to think I might actually be going to have a baby, whereas now I am more than ever aware that the baby might already be dead or dying... With the parvovirus, by the time you get the rash, you might have had the virus for several weeks already; and I've had the rash for at least 10 days now; my baby might be suffering from anaemia, leading to heart failure, right now There is a one in ten chance. And it will be another 3 weeks until I even know if I have it or not and can be referred for observation.

Ok, moan over. Am trying to be brave about it all (what else can I do?). There is still a good chance that it is not parvovirus, and if it is, that the baby is/will not be affected. So that's what I'm trying to believe in.

Oh meita - huge hug. Hopefully it's not parvovirus and you're worrying unnecessarilly but completely understand how it must be doing your head in. Please have a virtual hand hold.

Have you changed any washing powder etc recently? Sorry - you've probably been asked that a 100 times!

Also worth remembering that a lot of allergies don't necessary show in the place where contact took place. For example the contact with the allergent could be on your arm but the rash elsewhere. Hope it turns out to be something completely boring.

Is there any chance you could get a blood test run quicker privately to put your mind at rest?

meita I just wanted to second what tfls just said, and to send my very best wishes to you.

oh bloody eck meita that is a whole lot of possibilities to worry over isn't it.....surely a private blood test would be worth the money wouldn't it? Google it and see if its a possibilty hun. I will pray for you and your bubs. fingers crossed it will all be ok.

x

meita

two things ...

when i was pregnant with DS I developed an allergy to cats - which was never a problem before and became totally unbearable when pg, now i am still allergic but it is always worse when pg so allergies do come on in pregnancy for all sorts of things

second, with this pregnancy, DS had slapped cheek for the first two weeks of my pregnancy and I had horrid chesty virus which may well have been manifestation of it for me (you don't always get the rash) and fingers crossed, alls well

Try not to worry, I know its hard not just because of mc but also first time through you worry about EVERYTHING, but you are past 12 weeks and the placenta is a wonderful thing which will protect your baby and you have every reason to feel confident that nothing is going to go wrong, even if you do have slapped cheek, just because you had mc before doesn't mean it is more likely to happen to you again in response to this

thinking of you babe. xxxxx

Meita, sorry to hear that you've got more worries, am thinking of you.

ooh yes...actually when i was preggo with DD i developed this weird thing where whenever i ate egg and then went outside i became photosensitive to the light and started sneezing over and over...

please don't worry overly....you need to be cheerfully relaxed and optimistic. Bring it back to breath whenever you feel it bubbling up inside....a minute focussing on your breathing, in and out, in and out, will really snap you back into the present moment....and you know what, in this present moment everything is perfect.

fuck ... spotting ... just a little, very light but also had stabbing pain in left kidney (really did need the loo though) .... adrenlin just gone through the roof... wil keep you posted. anxiety overload

Cheepz - it could be nothing. Remember I had spotting two weeks ago and it went away. Completely recognise that feeling of dread and anxiety though. Fingers crossed for you. Please try not to panic (says she of the don't do what you preach school) - it could very easily be nothing. It's not around when your period would be due is it? I've read it's quite common to get spotting at that time.

i had spotting for one day at 9wks cheepz and stabbing pains....that turned out to be nothing.

try and be calm hunny i know its not easy

hi quick update, have been to the toilet about 6 times in the last hour and nothing more, have also read about how you can get vaginal blood spotting if you have a 'friable' cervix (one that bleeds easily) if you have been straining to do your business and lets just say constipation is one of the more unpleasent pregnancy symptoms I have been struggling with .. more prunes for me.

I know I have a friable cervix (doctors in the UK call is a vascular cervix) because I bleed every smear or every time they poke around and bled like a horror movie when DS born

I am hoping its just that. I had been doing a bit of pushing if you know what I mean.

Need to wait a little while as although have been to the loo have only been little pee, and no CM of any kind so need to wait for next cm to come out to see whether any more spotting or whether it was a one off

Have funny sensation in tummy mild dull ache but that could be a combination of nerves and being pregnant and nothing sinister at all. God I hate the fact this is such a rollercoaster. I bet I had spotting with DS and didn't even notice!

Thanks for calming words, will chill out if nothig further in the next 12 hours.

Cheepz - that's good news. There was another thread a while ago when they said straining for a bowel movement could easily cause spotting (not that I spend too much time paranoidly reading threads!)

Sounds like it could well be another of nature's lovely little tricks. As if constipation isn't bad enough!!

Here's to a very uneventful night for you.