The "4 weeks and bricking it" lounge.

[Thandeka]

Hello,
Me and Wasabipeanut thought a specific thread for people in our boat may be nice- as lovely as the knicker checkers thread is and great support but a lot of the lovely knicker checkers are past the evil first trimester and for those of us that have just found out we are pregnant again post MC we thought it might be nice for us to have a sub lounge to huddle in and support each other in these very early stages where in a way we are still in denial about this pregnancy!

We don't have to post due dates or anything scary like that, just more a place to wobble with people going through it at same time.

So I will be only 4 weeks tommorrow and 40 days ago tommorrow I had an MMC at 10 weeks but emby died at 6/7 weeks. So am going to be petrified basically for at least the next 8 weeks and would love some handholding- especially as this time I am not telling anybody except DH and best mate. Parents need not know.

Yippee, the sound of trumpets blasting and cymbals clashing (harmoniously, of course) welcome Angelfifi! Congratulations my dear. You're on the right thread here. Everybody will hold your hand.

I am so delighted to hear about those wonderfully positive scans, ladies. It's all so marvellous.

Good morning Quirkychick how are you feeling whilst awaiting the triple test results? I will have to do the test on Saturday or Monday and then it's a week's wait. And then, if it seems necessary to do the amnio I have to do it the first week of August when I'll be in my 15th week. No rest for the wicked. I know the amnio service (if such a thing exists) closes the week before 15th Aug (Bank Holiday here)so it's then or never. Phew. It's a bit of a roller coaster ain't it?

Thanks jardins I'm popping up to the hospital shortly to have the bloods, feeling a little nervous. I have 2 close friends who had amnios with dc3s I really understand what they mean when they say they couldn't relax about their pgs until later on. People keep congratulating me and I don't feel I can really take it on board until I've got this out the way. I think it's much more of a worry when you are an older mummy! Wasn't so concerned 1st pg as I only had triple test.

jardins good luck for your results next wk too. (oops posted too soon!)

Mummytopebs Well done on your scan - that's great news As Thandeka says this is the good news thread right now.

Ilovebeingamummy That's great news that your bean is hanging on in there. At 8 weeks for a scan you should be able to see good size blob with a nice strong heartbeat and possibly some little limb buds too.

Angelfifi Welcome and congratulations! This thread has been such a comfort to me in my knicker checking, paranoid state. Luckily, this one is now looking like a keeper but its been a long couple of months.

Quirky and Jardins Best of luck with your testing. I am still waiting on my blood test results/nuchal screening double test for my 1 in XXX number. I am 36 so fingers crossed....

Hello to all! mummytopebs, brilliant news re your scan.

Well I can add myself to list of relieved/happy scannees. My scan today showed a very wriggly little bean and all was well. Thank god. Like you mtp I was convinced it was going to be bad news. Quite the opposite. Hurrah!

thandeka your break sounds very romantic- have fun!

Hello all, I have finally managed to join this lovely thread.......but am well and truly bricking it.....4 weeks today woo hoo!!!

Yay! Am finally pregnant. Have been trying since September, this is baby number 2.

Brilliant news joy 27 I was just so relieved to see it moving around, i closed my eyes and wouldnt look at the screen till dh said you can look x How far are you think we are due around the same time. I am due around 25 Jan, however if baby is early by the same amount as dd it will be born xmas day !! Is it just me or does anyone else hate calling their baby it?

Welcome to the ladies who have just joined you will get lots of support here x x

mummytopebs I found out today that I'm 13 weeks not 12 (another bit of good news- one less week of worry!), which means I'm due 29th Jan- v close to you.

I don't like calling the baby "it" either- we seem to have adopted the highly unoriginal name of The Bean instead. I seem to use "he" sometimes though- not sure why.

I too was so terrified- when the sonographer said "there's the baby" I immediately shrieked "and is the heart beating?!".

Do genuinely feel much calmer now though. Quite amazed at what is going on down there, without me feeling a thing (apart from tired, sick, hormonal etc...). It's wonderful really.

Does anyone mind if I join? Just got a bfp this morning - almost 3 months to the day since I had an ERPC for a mmc at 13 weeks. As was due this morning, but I did an hpt this morning when there was no sign, and the line showed up within about 2 minutes!

I'm now sh*t scared though, as with my mmc I had a perfect 10 week scan and the baby died at 12 weeks (I found out at 13 week scan). Am going to get an appointment with the gynae on Monday, but I thought I'd join here in the meantime, incase any of you can share your words of wisdom about how to remain calm in these early days....

Welcome amyboo congratulations on your bfp.

amyboo am in exactly the same situation as you, am very scared about MMC but have resigned myself to sitting it out and hoping for the best.....

Congratulations

Welcome Amyboo and congratulations. The adventure begins now. I think one day at the time is the general philosophy on this thread. We're all here for you. How AWFUL to have a successful scan at 10 weeks and then.... But never fear, history will not repeat itself.

I hate to tempt fate but I feel really pretty damned good today despite my usual 2 - 3 hours insomnia last night. I'm almost 14 weeks. I'm savouring this good feeling because from previous experience you never know how you will be feeling the following day! My headaches and backache have vanished thanks to my new osteo. Fab.

My next hurdle is doing the triple (or whatever) test on Monday. It is a hurdle as I am not familiar AT ALL with Tours city centre and I will have to find the lab... What a wimp. Next small worry is my daughter returning from her 3 week holiday in UK (what a joy to see her!!!) and worrying whether she will be bringing the flu back courtesy of her Eurostar journey. Paranoia strikes!!!!

Hello everyone. I have my triple blood test tomorrow. Can anyone tell me (foolish question follows, please don't laugh) whether I can eat beforehand? Cheers (for not laughing).

Hello jardins I ate etc. as normal. I think it's only the Glucose Tolerance Test which you need to starve for. FWIW when I had mine on fri I had a leaflet that said until recently all women in UK were recommended to have an amnio after 35. Presumably this changed with the nuchal testing? Good luck.

Hi all,
My weekend was incredible. DH excelled himself- we spent the weekend in luxury at Swinton Park Yorkshire

DH has earned major major brownie points- brill! Now at a loss as to what to do for him in return (apart from the obvious )

Joy27 am so sad we aren't date twins anymore- I don't approve of age gaps- so since your offspring is going to be a whole week ahead of mine- I think we will have to call the wedding off! tongue in cheek- jealous you have a week less worry.

Am now anxiously waiting for 13 week scan on friday. In yorkshire all morning sickness went (like it did when I went to Somerset) but now I feel dodgy again so I reckon london makes me feel grim. Please keep fingers crossed that bean is still there- I do have a bump now (but had bump with MMC as egg sac carried on growing but emby stopped so not reassured).

Welcome and congrats to all the new Beans and Bean Carriers.

Thanks for the welcome everyone. I'm trying to stay calm about everything, but am worrying like mad on the inside. I don't have many symptoms yet - just insane tiredness for about the last week and big boobs I didn't really suffer too badly with ms last time - not sure if I'll be that lucky again.

It's nice to come on here and hear about how well you're all doing after having been through the same thing as me. It makes me hopeful that I won't be so unlucky this time...

amyboo all of us on this thread can help hold your hand. Tiredness and big boobs are definitely pg symptoms. I think after mc pg just seems like a whole lot of hoops to jump through. Just remember the majority of women who have mcs go on to have healthy happy pgs.

Wow Thandeka that looks great! I think growing a baby in your uterus is doing plenty for your dh . Perhaps it's not London so much as being relaxed that stops you feeling sick. Today I have had so much more energy and not been sick at all (previous 2 days v. sick/tired) and I am sure this is because I slept in-well, 8:30!

Hi can I join? I am on my 4th pregnancy (no children) and got a positive test last night making me 4 weeks today. I am already a nervous wreck and I honestly don't know how I will get through the next few months (hopefully!). I am so stressed even though I am trying not to be as I know it is not good for me and (dare I say it) the baby. I need lots and lots of distractions - how are you all handling it and what are you doing to try and relax and make the time fly? Heres hoping for lots of sticky baby dust for us all, I know how devastaing it is so I really feel for you all xxxx

Welcome ozbride here's to a very sticky bean for you this time. MN is great for distraction too .

Hi girls,

Glad to see its been another run of good news since the last time I posted!

Joy That is fabulous news. I?m so happy for you that your scan was good. I did EXACTLY the same as you at all of scans ? shrieked ?is there a heartbeat/where is a heartbeat?? over and over until the sonographer pointed it out. Great news about the additional week too. I am almost a week ahead too in terms of scanned size but apparently they don?t amend due date based on this unless you are measuring over a week over. I am measuring 4-6 days over so that might well be a result when I hit my due date. I would like to attempt a VBAC and that won?t be made very easy if I go long overdue.

Hoops and Knockedup Hooray and congrats to you both. This is a great thread.

Amyboo Welcome and congrats to you too. I have an idea how worried you might be right now. To have a successful scan at 10 weeks only to suffer a loss later is just so bloody cruel. I think that early regular scans would be a good idea for you. Whilst they can?t offer reassurance that nothing bad will happen at some point you can take some comfort from being reassured at that point in time and that the odds are getting more favourable all the time. Another idea may be blood tests from time to time to check hormone levels are progressing as they should be.

Ozbride Just seen your post ? welcome! Please consider what I have just written for Amyboo for you too! You?ve had a tough time though. Have you had any investigations into your previous losses?

Jardins Best of luck with the triple test and finding the lab! Glad you?re feeling better. I am 13 weeks today and for the last couple of days haven?t felt as rough or tired. Haven?t had a serious vom since last Thursday although the lovely dry retching is still with me.

Thandeka What a lovely hotel - your DH gets some serious brownie points for that. Not long to go until Friday ? I?m sure all will be well. Remember that its normal for symptoms to fade out a little now so don?t panic if you stop feeling sick! I agree with what Quirkychick says actually ? I always feel better on days where I get to have a decent sleep in the morning.

Having said that is anyone else struggling like mad with insomnia? What with the crazy dreams and waking every couple of hours I am getting about as much sleep as I did when DS was a newborn. I?m sure it wasn?t this bad when I was pg with DS. Hormones eh? The gift that keeps on giving.

Thanks for your advice wasabi. Here in Belgium you see the same gynae throughout your pregnancy, and they usually have ultrasound machines in their surgeries, so you get scanned every time. I've just got an appointment for next Wednesday, by which point I'll be nearly 6 weeks. I'm hoping after that they'll see me every 2 weeks till I get past my "danger zone" of 13 weeks I have a new gynae since my mmc, and he's really supportive and kind about what I've been through.

I have to say, for the last few weeks I've been lurking on this thread, and reading all your positive stoies really helped me to relax about everything and believe that it would happen again. I know that sounds a bit evangelical, but I really have found support and solace in reading about all your gradually progressing pregnancies. I'm so happy I finally get to join you all!

hello

Lots going on on this thread as usual. So nice to see. Thandeka what a lucky girl! Glad you had a lovely time.
Amyboo, Ozbride, Knockedup & Hoops welcome.

Wasabi nice to read your updates, I always enjoy them. I am suffering a bit from insomnia and also mad dreams. I dreamt about snakes attacking me yesterday and I don't even have a snake phobia ... so I am not sure where that came from. It seems I am currently blessed with an early riser. My DS has decided 6am is his new wake time ... oh dear. I hope this doesn't phase last too long.

I had the results of my nuchal translucency scan and it seems that the measurement was 1.4mm, apparently it's within the normal range and although I am an older mum it should be okay. My doctor is not very keen on genetic testing so hadn't ordered the combined blood work so although I believe her I am not massively comforted by not actually knowing the stat. She seemed confident so I guess I need to be confident with her. I did "google" and found it did seem to be on the lower end of the scale. Next appointment is sometime in September so I guess I just need to spend the next two months eating sensibly and getting the baby to grow ... if my waistline is any indication then I think s/he is growing very rapidly indeed.

Dear all, lovely to hear your news. It's all looking pretty rosy: take comfort new ladies from all this positivity!

I am very pleased as I found my way to the new lab in our new city and my blood should be on its way to ..... Paris, I think it is for the dreaded triple test. HappyBump whilst I understand your concern about not having genetic tests done I almost envy you. Here in France, while there is no doubt the medical service is of high standard, they are so clinical about everything. I swear when we went for the genetic counselling prior re: amnio last week I felt the (kind) counsellor was heavily implying I should be having the amnio. How she managed to do this and stay objective I do not know. I was relatively nonchalant on my way to the appointment, clutching proudly my nuchal scan result but left feeling a lot more thoughtful. Quite frankly, despite taking Bach Flowers, these ponderous thoughts have not left me since. At least the blood test is done and now I have to wait for the results. Anyway, all this to say HappyBump that I wish I could have a doctor who lightened the load of genetic testing.

Quirkychick have you received your results yet? It's funny how I feel no older in my third pregnancy at 40 but the medical system constantly nudges you to remind you that actually it's quite risky having a baby at 40. Stuff and nonsense!!!!

Insomia continues. My nights are patchy and I am aware that I am an irritable live wire around the clock. I am much more reactive to the smallest thing. I am so lucky my husband is being very patient and kind.

My 13 year old DD returns home tomorrow after 3 weeks absence. She will have a whole new universe to explore with us as she hasn't seen the new house, etc. yet.