40+ mums-to-be and those who've 'popped' - come say hi, pull up a chair and have some cake!

[jeanjeannie]

Hello everyone - yet another thread. I'm expecting a call anyday soon from ITV - as I imagine we'll be prime candidates for taking over the Loose Women slot when they need a break

So, for anyone interested in joining in with us - just jump in and say Hi - we don't bite - unless you're disguised as a chocolate sponge cake

Ladies..................Take it away

I had my hair cut yesterday and asked about highlights- the hairdresser who did me said she thought highlights were fine because they didn't touch the scalp. I believe that some kinds of dye are quite toxic though and that it depends on colour- dark is worse, I believe. Obviously any effects would be worse in the first 12 weeks, but the darker dyes are associated with neurological damage that can happen at any age.

triggles i am the same as you, during scan i just wanted to be assured the baby is healthy. we were secretly hoping for a girl, but got a boy. DS1 is over the moon, cos he wanted a brother. DH and I are now very happy with 2 boys. now he is talking about 3rd child... i am not so sure...

about hair dye, after 12 weeks it is safer. also go to salon so that someone else is handling the dye instead of a home job where you are the one handling it. i also have greys and want them covered!

all grey here this morning, but will brighten up later apparently! have to get DS1 ready for school!

Good morning all.

Next time I say to my DH 'hon, there's old food in the bin, can you take it out so it isn't totally rank by morning?' and he doesn't? I'm going to beat the crap out of him.

I started my morning by puking due to the smell of the bin in our kitchen. Yes, he and I have had words this morning. And they weren't very nice words.

Have a nice day all!!

Ah lovely tee. The aroma of rotting food first thing in the morning always gets me going. Not! Methinks you are going to have to send your DH to training school once more. He needs a refresher course from the sounds of it. Mind you, mine failed everything when he went.

I think we're in for a nice day here Fingers crossed no crap happening today.

Not sure if anyone is interested in today's Daily Mail offering www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1166524/How-long-giving-birth-woman-wait-make-love.html Personally I opt for the 'wait until baby has at least started school' approach But seriously, after I'd just had K my MW had told me one of her clients had requested the morning after pill 6 days after giving birth. One word. Vile.

Tee I hope your dh got the message...get him to clean the bathroom after your response and it will remind him

JW totally agree...6 days!vile! I was like the reporter with her first,3rd degree tear, (at least mine was repaired)...it was 3 months before I'd even think about it.

off for a walk in the sunshine today..I hope everyone else has sunshine too

ermintrude you should read JW's link. Remember Cote? That article explains a lot of her attitude!!

And I agree JW. Maybe once the kid goes to University!!!

Hello Daisy and congrats! I never hear comments about my age because they are repelled by the warm glow of my uptheduffness... No hospital folk have said anything though, and my midwife here in Berlin says that 37 to 42 is the perfect childbearing age. Never heard it before, must be said, but it suits me...

On that subject, I found out a bit more about the bettwoch concept here in Germany. Turns out you have the same midwife all the way through (I've just got mine) and then comes to see you every day for 10 days, to help you with the baby. Isn't that fab?

Interested to hear all about the new hairdos, I'm just booking mine. I will be having highlights (although I didn't for the first 12 weeks) but am going to Aveda where they use more natural dyes. Pushing the boat out a bit, but I feel happier. Incidentally, they say the room being well-ventilated is the most important thing.

Shocked at the CC fraud. Hope it all gets sorted soon.

Thanks peachy sure could use a treat today!

peachy if only I could have a slice. I'll look back on moments like this when I'm 8 stone and say well done. Now where's that backlog of cake I need to get through?

6 days!! you gotta be joking! we did it after 8 weeks and it was rather difficult
does not help when DH jokes about jelly belly

any suggestions on how to lose weight when one is still breastfeeding? i need to lose 6kgs!

morning all

hope all are well

Yes good party was had - mr D charmed all before him and then his daddy took him home to watch the footie while mummy remained at said party and knocked back the white wine with much gusto. Daddy also did the night feeds as mummy was ehmmm outcold a wee bit tired

fab day here too - hope its like this for the weekend!

ooh I read thaqt DM article - am now torn between moving to France or, given peachys descriptions, Germany to have another.
That poor woman who wrote the comments about the prolapse after the ventouse delivery.
Sounds to ne like I got away very lightly with mine!

I loved my breasts are for my 'usband chortle chortle. Soo French! I'm off to google perineal reconstruction + Berlin...

Hello all -what a morning - we entertained out 84 yr old friend....ROck 'n Roll

heron I need to lose weight and am BF....but I reckon 6kgs is probably the weight of your boobs

peachy I'd love a slice of cake although I shouldn't as I've just had a scone Aveda is a great idea for hair colouring.

In essence I like the idea of someone coming to help - but what if they're like half-wit HVs and drive you mad after days of interfering after the birth. OOooo,I reckon unless they keep their mouth shut - do the cleaning -and answer any questions you may have then it would irritate the life out of me!

SIX days after the birth...WRONG!!! Although I did read a thread somewhere on MN recently where a girl has a three month old and discovered she's preggie again - worked out it was 15 days after the birth....

Gorgeous here now the mist has lifted - Floria we shall join you in spirit and take a walk - if Iris wakes up in a good enough mood!

So I spoke to my GP, after speaking to AN clinic, about my iron levels. GP wants to test my B12 levels before I start on iron. I asked her if it was not dangerous to wait. She said at 10.6 it was fine, so long as it was early next week at the latest (when bloods will be back), as giving me iron if my B12 is low is pointless!

So blood drawn tomorrow. And I was going to have a nice long lie in on my day off [pout smiley]

JJ yikes, 3 month old and pregnant again? I think I'd shoot myself!! (not really )

I read on a thread here that someone did it after 2 days! actualy quite dangerous as air can enter the placental wound and travel to the heart and kill you.

Ooh Tee, just read the article and see what you mean. It's the casual 'but then hardly any babies are breastfed in France' comment that shows what it's all about really. The medical/patriarchal control of women's bodies. Pah. I had a tear with no stitches after my natural labour with DD and DH and I did a 'duty feck' the night before my 6-wk appointment just to get the badge. I'd read a book which advised husbands on Things Not To Say which included, 'Well, I could feel one side', so DH was terribly kind. . After DS I was just too darned tired dealing with 2 DCs, nowt to do with the birth, but we got back in the saddle when the time was right.

When my mum was doing her house jobs in Obs in sixties Liverpool, a girl whose episiotomy she'd stitched THE DAY BEFORE came back in with serious bleeding after her husband had refused to waive his conjugal rights and erm forced his way in. . They stitched her up again and sent her home.

peachy theoretically I'll get a mw visit for 10 days after my home birth, but going by previous experience, in practice she'll come for the first 3 days and then every other day or so. Nice for it to be the same mw, although I don't know how they manage all their cases. Mine will be one of a team and I may not have met them all by the time I drop, but that doesn't bother me.

duchesse I've always had blonde highlights every 3 months or so including through pregnancy and the hairdresser showed me the box which explains it's OK. Darker dyes are different though, I believe.

That article is unbelievable!! - talk about yet another way in which the media can make normal women feel inferior and paranoid that their partners are going to bugger off the minute they're out of action for a while!! Or is it just me? Perhaps the french men should be taught what their right hand's for!!!

I can't remember where I read it (it may have been on MN)but there was a piece once where apparently a MW popped into the ward see a girl she'd helped in labour the day previously, who'd ended up having a CS, and found her boyfriend about to have sex with her. Apparently, when advised of the danger/inappropriateness of this, he retorted that he'd not had any action for over a week and he was going to be careful not to lean on her wound!!!

Hope everyone else is having this lovely sunshine too

tee bravo to your GP..my mum was diagnosed anaemic when having me they started her on pills, upped the dosage, then gave her iron injections it was only then that they looked further and found the B12 deficiency..she was bunged up and I was born yellow, not jaundiced, just rusty from all that iron!...cue comments about a magnetic personality

All this talk about conjugals being demanded immediately after birth is making me feel quite faint...[FT rushes off for the smelling salts]

Hi Ladies, hope everyone is very well! I had my scan yesterday, everyone so right, not much to see, but we did see the tiny flicker of the heart beating away, which made me feel better. Dr joked when he walked in, "how many do you think are in there?" I didn't know how to answer...he said to come back next week so he can verify that there is indeed only one, and maybe get a better pic...

Johnworf, I hope you are feeling better! The thing about my sister, well it was the fibromyalgia, she says it occurs in people with "head" issues. She's always been very rude to me, needless to say we haven't spoken since December, and since my parents think she is a goddess, same for them as well. It is my dad, stepmother and stepsister, just to add to the cliche.

I can't believe some are even considering having sex a few days (or weeks even) after the birth! Between the flow, the pain, the stitches, and the lack of sleep... I didn't feel anything like foolin' around! Not even close!

FloriaTosca LOL at the magnetic personality!

We had our scan this morning - and baby finally cooperated so they could get all the measurements needed. The NT measurement was 4.7, and they said as we're at 22wks, it just needed to be under 6.0, so that's good. No soft markers found at all. All measurements were right on target! Such a huge relief for us, especially after given the 1:12 risk after bloods! I know it doesn't necessarily mean an "all clear" but it does lengthen the odds a bit more. Baby's still breech, but it's early yeyt, so plenty of time to turn.

Good scan news, Triggles and sissy! Trig, that NT measurement is the same as our LO at 21 wks - so it must mean everything's fine .

Thanks ermintrude - always good to hear!

Triggles it must be such a relief to get such positive feedback. I can't even think about how worried all the tests must make you. I had nuchal fold with DS1 and freaked out at just the thought of having to make a decision/worry if the results were anything but "normal" (so didn't bother with any tests for DS2 or this pg - the family jury's still out over whether I'm stupid or just plain irresponsible - just glad that DH is supportive )

I can't believe that I actually cried at the end of Eastenders tonight dang those pregnancy hormones!

Lordy. I'm knackered. DH has buggered off out again so I think words need to be had tomorrow Finally got both of the LO's into bed although K is holding out until the last with a few grunts and groans (just to keep me on my toes).

Well done on the scans ladies. Another hurdle triggles betting you're feeling so much more relieved.

Can't believe these stories of men who want sex (or should that be demand?) so soon after giving birth. It really makes me feel quite ill. As if a woman's body hasn't been traumatised enough without a man sticking something else in there

Talking of traumatic, just finished watching Eastenders. It really takes it out of you. So depressing, confrontational and downright unbelieveable at times. I remember why I stopped watching it. DSS is obsessed with it right now though

Did anyone see the pics of Coleen Nolan on DM website, enhanced to show what she'd look like in 10 years time if she carried on smoking? Frightening Another bonus I can add to my tick list of giving up