40 + mums with baby tums & those who've already 'popped' with muffin tops - come say Hi!

[jeanjeannie]

Yet ANOTHER thread. Like it says - those of you who've waved bye bye to 39 come and say Hi to us instead.

We think that 40 is the new 20, cyber cake is the new weight-watchers and older mums rock

So, if you fit that description come and play with us. We like cake, gossip an occasional luke warm debate and a good moan! Oh and we're also very friendly and supportive!

OK everyone.....take it away x

Morning

jw your evening sounds lovely... I had a lovely Sunday lunch in one of our beautiful country pubs around the time of my birthday in January with just DH DD1 and DD2 and it really is a day I will never forget, its lovely to get that time with just the older ones, its very moving, seems so long ago they were tiny like the little ones yet at the same time it only seems like yesterday I was picking them up from nursery school

Poor mrsb thought you had the sleeping/eating with D down pat now, maybe its just the result of a very exciting, exhausting week, my fingers are crossed for you tonight

Floria and jw gave me a chuckle reading your dream senarios.... I too like Tee didn't sleep much after DD3 woke in tears at the loss of her new teddy, brought by grandma yesterday, which she swore blind she took to bed with her, didn't of course. After a hunt at 2:10am was found where she had left it, on her shelves, anyway DH promptly went back to sleep with a snore so loud it was a couple of hours till I managed to get back to sleep!

Think I also had a little on my mind too after watching the very moving story of little Faith and Hope.... I found it a very humbling story

Hello pintofstella

mum41 I meant to watch the story of Faith & Hope but I was out. But then on reflection I think I'd find it too upsetting I just can't do ickle tiny babies anymore...especially the way their story ended too

You're right about it being very moving with the older ones. All grown up with their own lives, yet still think of them as your baby (which they hate btw!).

Floria is the Tobi a 0-4 years one? If so, I'll look it out on my trip to Mothercare tomorrow. I want to see the actual seats in the car and how easy they are to fit in (just in case we ever have to take it out). We only have 1 car so we won't be swapping. I do like the Isofix bases but they're so bloody expensive I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Hadn't realised you'll actually be playing a part at the RNCM! Duh @ me. Yeah, it'd be lovely to catch up afterwards. I'll check with DH that he doesn't have a bridge match on that date and if not, I'll get my fat bum down there

Tee maybe your co-worker is feeling she was a bit mean and wants to show she's a nice person really. Fortunately, we won't tell her what you said about her so you can be gracious in your acceptance of her kind offer. BTW, I use a moses basket for downstairs and a crib for upstairs - I realise you're in a flat, but would there be any time when you're taking babe out - say to a friend's house for the day - and it would be handy to have somewhere to put him/her down to sleep there without having to take buggy/carrycot? Just a thought.

Welcome new ladies. pintofstella I'm v that you're due so soon. I'm 23 wks and the time isn't passing fast enough for my liking!

JW You're onto a new man every night! . David Mitchell is extremely clever but a bit too drawly-posh for me, and although he does act quite middle-aged I suspect he may have a pale and smooth and generally unmanly body. Sorry if that spoils the prospect for you . At least Lee Mack looks like he's got hair down there.

is it afternoon already? wher does the day go?

Tee well done with the car seat we have one and it great nice and padded for the LO and easy to fit with the seat belt (I do have a base as well but have fitted it in other cars with just the belt). The only pain is getting the cover off if you need to wash it.

JW you may want to read this about the Tobi it seem that it is easily escaped from,.

got to got B has done something to the Wii ekkkk

Ok, I'm very jealous of all your dreams - I haven't been dreaming much at all - probably cuz I haven't been sleeping much.

GTT this morning, should know results this afternoon. Hopefully it will be fine, I don't really want to have to deal with GD.

hedgepig thanks for the info on the Tobi. We haven't decided yet on a carseat, but will definitely keep that in mind!

hello new people and old ... I finally found you and caught up again - fell like I'm sprinting all the time with this thread!
Lovely reading all your tales about births and easy and hard times - mine was a marathon 6 days of contractions.
I was like Tee - with the all- natural birth-plan including water birth and some chilled times.
I was a week overdue when the contractions started on a Tuesday evening - and lasted all night but then faded away then next day ... then come the evening they started again. The only thing that calmed them was sitting in the bath. Major problem was the boiler had been disconnected due to a gas leak and the plumber was refitting the heating. So I had to fill the bath with the shower head and the kettle! I phoned the hospital with contractions between 2 and 6 mins apart but they said wait til they are regular.

The NEXT night (Thursday) the contractions were coming at 2-3 mins apart and I couldn't stand it any longer so we toddled off to the hospital again where I sat in the bath for another few hours then had a pethidine injection so could sleep for the first time in 3 days - hubby slept on the floor. Friday I went home as nothing was happening again (20 mins apart) so spent the day eating curry and walking. In the bath all Friday night and awake as lying down hurt like hell. Saturday morning I woke up after about half an hour sleep and had a MASSIVE contraction that hurt like hell. The midwife turned up just then and measured my blood pressure (off the scale surprisingly). So off to Hospital for a scan. By t hen I'd calmed down and nothing was happening so off home again!!!!!

Saturday night in the bath (looking like a prune and feeling like a seal) I felt something pop. Waters broken!!! So off to the hospital at 3am. Not dilated at all yet so stuck in a side room with NO pain meds! Contractions all night and in the morning they deemed I was 4 cm so could go into a labour room. 5 hours later on gas and air and they decided I was not 4 cm dilated but not dilated at all. Lots of crying from me. They gave me an epidural and some syncotonin drip to make the contractions more effective - FINALLY after 5 days I was pain free! but after another 4 hours I still wasn't dilated so they said I needed a C-section. I wasn't having it so asked for a bit longer. At 11pm they said " look this baby's not coming out - you NEED a C-section". I cried (again)
Monday morning Baby M was born by C-section and they found out she was Brow-presenting so could not get out (plus she was 9lb and had a fat head - 39cm!!) So all those contractions were pointless and if C-sections didn't exist we wouldn't be here. Hurrah!

When my next-door neighbour had her baby (a month later) in 3 hours from waking up to birth they didn't dare tell me. [grins]

eek - sorry - that was the short version too!

bonzo I think what would annoy me was that it took them so long to figure out why the baby wasn't coming! According to that article you linked to, an internal would have cleared that right up!

And it wasn't me with the all natural birth plan. I don't have a birth plan yet. I am just hoping they let me go to 40 weeks, which with my diabetes, is not likely!

Bonzo Wow. Takes hat off in admiration. That would have put me off for life.Why can't men have babies? I bet they would all have caesarians! I remember DX with second child saying I made quite a noise as it was coming out!!!

Ouch Bonzo, poor baba trying to get out face first! Sounds like you went through the worst bits of contractions, prolonged labour, induction, spinal and then C-section as well - you did the lot! Glad babe got out safe and sound!

Tee I think that if there's been no dilation the docs can't tell whether the baby is ceph or brow - if bonzo had dilated more they'd have seen a little nose poking through .

Will they try to induce you early because of diabetes, even if all is going well? In any case, birth plans are probably best read as wish lists and need various exit strategies to be written in along the way...

So, you're off work this afternoon aren't you? Any online baby stuff shopping planned?

Hormones hormones everywhere
cross this woman if you dare
first I cry and then I laugh
I feel sick but cannot barf

I am so sad to be alone
it's not the same upon the phone
alas Mr Neddie is far away
I cannot see him everyday

I must not whinge, I must not whine
Compared to others I'm doing fine
It's just that it can be a drag
that lots of things now make me flag

And now I feel much better too
that I relay this all to you
Goodbye,farewell and toodle pip
I'm off to scoff a walnut whip

MsBrandybuck welcome and congratulations I thought Kezzy was the menopause too LOL

Eulalia My parents were funny with me too initially now they are ok

MUM41plus5 I want to put glue on her bum now I am fed up with the walking and crawling want my baby back why can't she sit still like my friends babies LOL

Mum41 - Dds 18 and 15 and 5 and twin boys born July 2008 (Fraser and Regan)

Johnworf 42 - (Katherine) Born 28 May 08 (16 weeks early, due September 14th 2008) 4th baby. Others are 23,20,17

Jeanjeannie 43 - (Verity) Born 30 May 08. Iris is 2.

Mrsboogie - (Darragh) Born September 08. has an older DS too, can't remember how old though.

Hedgepig 42 - (Oliver) Born October 08. Also has Ben, 5.

Tee 40 - due June 09. First baby.

Ermintrude13 42 - DD 10 and DS 6 baby due June

Duchesse 41, boy of 15, girl of 13, girl of 11, due number 4 in August.

FloriaTosca 44 -(Alexander) born Sept 07

Neddie41 - Dd 16, Dd 6 1/2, twins due Sept 09

Ladymac - (Elizabeth) born April 07, Grace is 12, DD1 24 and DS 20. 5th baby due April

Tabitha8 43 - Little Tab due June. First ever baby.

Kaz1967 -(Kezzy) Born 1 July 2008.

BonzoDoodah 41 - DD1 18months, baby due in July

Triggles 43 - Ds1 24, Dd 22, Ds2 2, 4th baby due August

MsBrandybuck 42 - Ds 2, baby due Sept

Palmetto 40 - Ds 18mths, baby due Sept

Love the poem Neddie!

Thanks for the support - feeling a lot more positive today.

Have added myself to the list.

Mum41 - Dds 18 and 15 and 5 and twin boys born July 2008 (Fraser and Regan)

Johnworf 42 - (Katherine) Born 28 May 08 (16 weeks early, due September 14th 2008) 4th baby. Others are 23,20,17

Jeanjeannie 43 - (Verity) Born 30 May 08. Iris is 2.

Mrsboogie - (Darragh) Born September 08. has an older DS too, can't remember how old though.

Hedgepig 42 - (Oliver) Born October 08. Also has Ben, 5.

Tee 40 - due June 09. First baby.

Ermintrude13 42 - DD 10 and DS 6 baby due June

Duchesse 41, boy of 15, girl of 13, girl of 11, due number 4 in August.

FloriaTosca 44 -(Alexander) born Sept 07

Neddie41 - Dd 16, Dd 6 1/2, twins due Sept 09

Ladymac - (Elizabeth) born April 07, Grace is 12, DD1 24 and DS 20. 5th baby due April

Tabitha8 43 - Little Tab due June. First ever baby.

Kaz1967 -(Kezzy) Born 1 July 2008.

BonzoDoodah 41 - DD1 18months, baby due in July

Triggles 43 - Ds1 24, Dd 22, Ds2 2, 4th baby due August

MsBrandybuck 42 - Ds 2, baby due Sept

Palmetto 40 - Ds 18mths, baby due Sept

Eulalia 43 - ds1 9, dd 6, ds2 3, No 4 due August

On this list it looks as though mrsboogie can't remember how old her oldest DS is . Have you got one, mrsb?

Bonzo just speechless

Kaz Nooooooo... leave that cute little missy to get about however she chooses makes me smile, I love that stage

Oh look at me all smiley, oh dear, usually am smiley, just that way by nature I guess, even annoy myself sometimes

Just been for a little click about (hope that doesn't annoy you regulars, a newbie like me using such phrases, after what was said about newbies and the way they post )......... anyway clicked on talk, last 15 minutes and had a little browse, it is quite amazing some of the things on MN .... had to laugh at a thread about someone drying their minge (not a term I would use) in the gym changing rooms, gave me a chuckle but also alot more on a serious note like the story of a little 4yo drowning after the buggy carrying her and her 8mo brother was sewpt into the sea in kent after her father let it go for a brief second to hug his mistress

Have to say having been for a wander round MN its funny that I posted here when I first joined as wouldn't want to be anywhere else! thanks for putting up with me
oh there I go again

I was a bit upset they hadn't diagnosed the brow presenting (it's not nose first but the fattest part of the head so they couldn't have seen any difference from the crown or the top - I asked that) - and I didn't dilate at all so I suppose they couldn't have known. You would have thought though after 5 days they may have been wondering why this wasn't happening? Ah well - just glad we're both ok.

I'm updating the people thing too as I somehow have the wrong age there. Bad enough being 40 without adding a year ...

And new people - if you're not too shy you could enter a bit of info in your profiles (via Mymumsnet) to give us a bit more idea about yourselves.

Mum41 - Dds 18 and 15 and 5 and twin boys born July 2008 (Fraser and Regan)
Johnworf 42 - (Katherine) Born 28 May 08 (16 weeks early, due September 14th 2008) 4th baby. Others are 23,20,17
Jeanjeannie 43 - (Verity) Born 30 May 08. Iris is 2.
Mrsboogie - (Darragh) Born September 08. plus older DS
Hedgepig 42 - (Oliver) Born October 08. Also has Ben, 5.
Tee 40 - due June 09. First baby.
Ermintrude13 42 - DD 10 and DS 6 baby due June
Duchesse 41, boy of 15, girl of 13, girl of 11, due number 4 in August.
FloriaTosca 44 -(Alexander) born Sept 07
Neddie 41 - Dd 16, Dd 6 1/2, twins due Sept 09
Ladymac - (Elizabeth) born April 07, Grace is 12, DD1 24 and DS 20. 5th baby due April
Tabitha8 43 - Little Tab due June. First ever baby.
Kaz1967 -(Kezzy) Born 1 July 2008.
BonzoDoodah 40 - DD1 18months, baby due in July
Triggles 43 - Ds1 24, Dd 22, Ds2 2, 4th baby due August
MsBrandybuck 42 - Ds 2, baby due Sept
Palmetto 40 - Ds 18mths, baby due Sept
Eulalia 43 - ds1 9, dd 6, ds2 3, No 4 due August

ermintrude David Mitchell is probably wan, toneless (mebbe tad flabby midriff), 3 hairs on chest and sexually inexperienced...but in my dream last night he was a stud muffin. Of course, I may be completely wrong about the real life David Mitchell and he's actually a beast between the sheets. I doubt it somehow but a girl can but dream. I wonder if he reads mumsnet? I'll have to take myself off his Twitter list if he does

Okay, now I'm just gutted. Got the blood results back - borderline GD. At 16wks. So I have to meet with the diabetic team and check my blood sugars 4x daily for the rest of the pregnancy. I'm glad they caught it (early test due to huge family history of diabetes), but stressed now. As if being on crutches for the SPD isn't enough, now I gotta jab my fingers every day. But worst of all - they probably won't let me have cake!!!

triggles my GD was diagnosed at 16 weeks. I was on insulin too. It's not a big deal. They'll probably send you to the dietician first and see if you can cope with controlled diet first. It'll affect your delivery of course but the endocrinologist and the diabetic midwife will go through that with you nearer the time.

ermintrude if it is going well, they won't do anything, but diabetic mummies (and this is more true for those of us who had diabetes before we conceived, so none of you GD's freak on me!) can start to loose integrity of the amniotic fluid earlier than non-diabetics. Also, if the baby starts to get to big. I don't know if they'll induce or do a section, and my control is so tight as it is and the baby is measuring right on track, I might get to go to term. Its too early to tell.

And I spent my afternoon off asleep. Just got up after 3 hours asleep! I feel great!

triggles really, don't freak. I've had diabetes for over 2 years now. And as JW said, its really not a big deal. I do still eat cake, BTW! And if you have any questions, ask. JW had GD and I have Type II anyway.

neddie BRAVO!!!!!!

triggles exactly as tee said. Don't go googling it or you'll frighten yourself to death!

You'll have sizing scans at 28 and 32 weeks (mebbe more depending on your hospital). It's not until around 28 weeks though that your placenta really starts to hoover up the insulin and that's when it can start getting silly with the amounts of insulin you start injecting. But, everyone is different so don't take this as gospel.

I had no diabetes in my family and was quite surprised when they told me I had it at 16 weeks.

K was born at 24 weeks so I didn't get to have any sizing scans but she still came out a [relative] good weight at 1lb 8oz!

Thanks for your welcomes

Have taken the liberty of adding myself to the list:

Mum41 - Dds 18 and 15 and 5 and twin boys born July 2008 (Fraser and Regan)
Johnworf 42 - (Katherine) Born 28 May 08 (16 weeks early, due September 14th 2008) 4th baby. Others are 23,20,17
Jeanjeannie 43 - (Verity) Born 30 May 08. Iris is 2.
Mrsboogie - (Darragh) Born September 08. plus older DS
Hedgepig 42 - (Oliver) Born October 08. Also has Ben, 5.
Tee 40 - due June 09. First baby.
Ermintrude13 42 - DD 10 and DS 6 baby due June
Duchesse 41, boy of 15, girl of 13, girl of 11, due number 4 in August.
FloriaTosca 44 -(Alexander) born Sept 07
Neddie 41 - Dd 16, Dd 6 1/2, twins due Sept 09
Ladymac - (Elizabeth) born April 07, Grace is 12, DD1 24 and DS 20. 5th baby due April
Tabitha8 43 - Little Tab due June. First ever baby.
Kaz1967 -(Kezzy) Born 1 July 2008.
BonzoDoodah 40 - DD1 18months, baby due in July
Triggles 43 - Ds1 24, Dd 22, Ds2 2, 4th baby due August
MsBrandybuck 42 - Ds 2, baby due Sept
Palmetto 40 - Ds 18mths, baby due Sept
Eulalia 43 - ds1 9, dd 6, ds2 3, No 4 due August
pintofstella 41 - DS 5, baby due 6th April

My sister in Law was diagnosed with GD but she was determined not be on the insulin. She wrote down everything (and I mean ruddy everything) she ate over the next two weeks and ate carefully. When she went back for her second check she said they had the insulin out ready for her but her bloods were fine and they took her food dairy away to give to other mums as a model for what they can do! (mind you she's a bit erm ... compulsive). Not saying it is your fault but maybe an eye on the diet can help (not that I know much so don't want to sound preachy).

Did you all read the thread about the woman at the gym? ewwww very funny.

I'm going shopping in a mo for tea. Having Mushroom Lasagne for tea tomorrow. It is a veggi recipe that is DIVINE mushroom lasagne recipe
mind you hubby made it last time and used about 6 bowls, 4 pans and every piece of cutlery in the house... plus it took him FOUR hours!!! I just have to make it to see how eaily it can be made by someone who can multi-task. May have chocolate fondue for pud as my mate is giving it up for Lent (starts Wednesday) so we can have a pig-out before the fast.

bonzo I noticed that someone had written in to the Guardian saying how pleased they'd been to see a healthy veggie lasagne recipe only to find it contained a dairy-full of butter and cream . It didn't say it was a low-fat recipe, and what did they expect with bechamel sauce anyway?! Looks yummy, I must try it.

Is your friend actually giving up chocolate fondue for lent? That's a bit specific...