40 + mums with baby tums & those who've already 'popped' with muffin tops - come say Hi!

[jeanjeannie]

Yet ANOTHER thread. Like it says - those of you who've waved bye bye to 39 come and say Hi to us instead.

We think that 40 is the new 20, cyber cake is the new weight-watchers and older mums rock

So, if you fit that description come and play with us. We like cake, gossip an occasional luke warm debate and a good moan! Oh and we're also very friendly and supportive!

OK everyone.....take it away x

Oh Eulalia, I am very sorry to hear that. I hope you heal quickly.

Eulalia So so sorry for you and your family it must be a very hard time for you all, I too will be wishing for you to heal quiclky.

I just got my first non-family gift for the baby...booties with pandas on them. So cute!

Feel much better after sleeping all morning and having a bacon, cream cheese and bagel sandwich.

Hope everyone else is having a good day.

tee that's so nice - first gifts from friends and that bagel sarnie sure sounds gogeous!

Having a teething trauma and snot everywhere - still! Very, very tired today - can't believe Corrie hasn't just finished and I'm not almost in bed !

JJ poor you! I am so looking forward to teething, truly I am! Along with potty training and runny noses in general!!

And the bagel sarnie was gorgeous.

Uuummmm sounds delicious tee and glad you're having a good day

I must be good though no bacon bagels for me, BMI was at 25.9 this morning and don't want to see that pop back over to 26. anything again!

very much teething troubles here too for the last few days and nights, seem to be taking forever to come through. Won't be long though and I'm sure and the teething will be a thing of the past and we will have moved on to the next thing to worry about

Yum Tee, you're making me hungry, and I've only eaten mountains of muesli and yoghurt and, in case I'm sounding angelic, several jam donuts.

I'm having a good day too, lovely spring weather (although I've only been out to get the donuts).

I just found out I have to go on a trip to the Algarve for two days with work next week. Tough, eh?

Sorry about the baby pegs MUM hope they come through nice and quick.

Daniel is a nice name. I think I'm having a boy (don't know of course, but I studied lots of internet pics before my 13 week scan) and all I can pick are girls' names. Any more suggestions?

Oh mum41 I dream of a 25.9 BMI I'm about 26 (something!) and before I was preggie I'd never been overweight - not pleasing at all!

peachy Algarve! hard life huh!
I have two DDs so never got to use my boy's names...they were - in no particular order;
Fraser,
Alistair,
Ivan,
Aleksander,
Samuel,
Edward,
Wolf,
Sparticus,
Horace,
Sergei...........OK, so the last 4 were a fib

Jeanjeanie Wolf!

I like Edward a lot. It was my grandfather's name too.

Sparticus??!! ... splutter! Ah well made me smile at the end of a depressing read.

Gosh the news on the June thread (poor, poor lady) and for Eulalia too - very sad. Feel rotten for them both.

Kaz - eeek at the fire - and woo-hoo you for spotting it.

Florida how did your evening go? I've had fingers crossed for your cold being better and it all going well. We have in-laws staying right now and I am asleep on the settee every night far too early to consider something as relaxing as a Classical concert. Otherwise I would have been there supporting you. hope it went well and your frind made the money she needed to.

Snap peachy My grandad was also Edward - or Grampa Ted to me A friend/aquaintance of old married a pop star and called her DS Wolf OK if you're German I suppose!

bonzo I know - I've felt I've not really wanted to post much today - very sad.

floria yes, come in dear heart....tell all

Okay, so, you experienced mums...baby kicks. I am getting mixed answers on the thread started by one of my buddies on June thread.

Rule of thumb seems to be 10 kicks. A day? An hour? 10 sets? 10 individual kicks?

Any thoughts, oh wise over 40 mummies?

Hi everyone DH upgraded the computer overthe weekend so I haven't been able to chat !

Tee I always worked on 10 kick per hr (not every hr cos the baby sleeps too). So pick a time when the baby is active, sit still or lie down and count. If it is not moving you can always try eating something sugary (if OK with your diabetes) and drinking a very cold drink. Also look at changes in pattern of, movement in fact my mw said that was more important than an absolute number of kicks. If you are worried call the maternity unit and talk to them they will not be cross it is what they are there for.

I have just taken DS1 swimming I am slightly traumatised, there is no room for the buggy it is really hot, there are zillions of people milling around yukk yukk

I'd go with hedgepigs 10 per hour. K used to be at her most active around 6am when my bladder was full

My dad is Edward (ted) and his dad was Edward too. I wanted Edward for K but obviously fate lent a hand in that one Otherwise she would have been Henry as I've always wanted a Tom, Dick and Harry (my two boys are Richard and Tom).

JJ I read something the other day where someone had called their DC Wolf but can't for the life of me remember who it was. I know it was someone famous. I wonder if it was your friend? Who did she marry that I might know?

Air Products have been today and taken all the O2 equipment away as we don't need it anymore. Another comfort blankie taken from me She's not used it since Nov 08 but still, it was there 'just in case'. The SATS monitor is to go next and the I'll be without any support at all. I've tried to persuade my MW to let me keep it for a little while longer (again) 'just in case', but she firmly said no and that I have to get over it. lol.

That must be a bit scary JW but yeah for K!! Look how far she's come.

See, I guess the 10 per hour, or 10 per 12 hours, or whatever seems a bit naff to me. For one thing, define a kick. Sometimes I get kicked really hard (like just a minute ago, so hard on my bladder I ran for the loo) and other times its like little tickles. Do tickles and punches count the same?

Oh and if I totally want the baby to kick, all I have to do is lean forward! I think it gets a bit crunched and lets me know!! MUMMY MOVE!!!!

I figure so long as I am feeling it on a pretty regular basis, there is no need to worry.

As for people called Wolf. there's Wolf Blitzer from, I think, CNN.

hedgepig well done you on the swimming. I leave that to MIL as I'm such a whimp - I'm always so frazzled and stressed...I need to lay in a darkened room with a noggin of gin ot help me recover!

jw that's good news about all the paraphanalia going. Soon, you'll be dropping her off at the school gate and she'll roll her eyes at you as you remind her to tuck in her vest

My 'friend' (see old work colleague who was way trendier than me) married a certain Scottish lead singer of a pop band, one of whose albums was entitled Screamadelica. If memory serves me well he was also in the Jesus & Mary Chain....cor, they take me back. They've also got a DD called Lux - I'm sure Jo Whiley was influenced by that....she's such an ageing rock chic!

ladymac are you around? You've not popped have you?!

I've made a pot of madras - fresh - from scratch....I'm feeling very smug. Just hope it tastes ok!

Meant to say tee yeah - I'm not sure either of my girls were big on the kicking but sit down and lean forward and they'd soon let you know!!

Okay I need to vent!

Just got a call from one of the GPs in the practice I go to. This is not a GP I see regularly, just once a year for my diabetes (its her specialty). Why did she ring? Because she was going through letters from the hospital and had one regarding me from Rhomtoidology (who I see because before I got pregnant we were investigating me for fribromayalgia) and I just saw them a bit ago.

In the letter it mentioned I take Trazodone, which I do. 50 mg (teeny tiny dose to help me sleep). So why did this doctor call? To make sure my OBs knew I was on that.

Yes, you moron, of course they do. And it has been agreed that I will stay on it until I go on maternity leave in 10 weeks because better I am sleeping some than not sleeping at all while I am working!

The really annoying part? Its her fellow GP who put me on the damn med about 5 years ago!

Also, there are no indications that trazodone hurts a baby. None. Not one study has shown any affects on a foetus.

Of course, this is the same practice that sent me not one, but two 'come have a smear' letters. When I was 4 months pregnant. Took two phone calls to clear that one up!

Tee I can see why you are cross but how would you feel if you were taking something that could hurt the baby and nobody had checked up on it? Admittedly in developmental terms it is a bit late but you certainly wouldn't get that from my Drs who do not cross check anything.

It's movement that you are looking for when you are counting not just kicks.

JJ I didn't get in the pool just took B to his after school lesson, that is enough for me. I know who the famous(ish) father is, I love the JAMC I have one of their cds in my car.

I love the name Ted but am not madly keen on Edward, Edgar, Edmund, Theodore or anything else you shorten it from. But wouldn't want to just call a baby Ted, so that one's out for us. DH's surname is a v solid Yorkshire one so we've gone for old-fashioned names of Ango-Saxon origin thus far (I said this to my sister and she thought it sounded like we'd called our DC F*k and C*t, but there are many other Anglo-Saxon words in our language ) and will do again. The only possibility is Tedmund, a very old English name I discovered - DH feels that would be unfair but I reckon it would be character-forming . Much easier if it's a girl, we're sorted there.

Tee My info sheets say to contact the MW if I feel fewer than 10 kicks per day. Like you, I'll get a flurry of far more than 10. I think it's just to warn us to be aware that the babe is moving at different times of day and notice if there is a prolonged period of no movement. But as you say, it's a pretty imprecise science!

Re: GPs, a lot of people feel they don't have enough contact; sounds like yours are on overload . Maybe they do mad admin catch-ups every quarter, fearful that they might have missed something?

JJ I LOVED that album!

JW Scary to be without the O2 but great too, in a way. Are you tempted to find your own supply - some dodgy online store, maybe . Glad baby K is passing yet another milestone.

jw Thats excellent news for K, must feel a little strange for you though but that just goes to show the health proffesionals involved with K's care are more than confident in her progress.

tee I can't remember back to my single pregnancies but I know even with twins I had some quite long periods when I would feel very little movement and then just before I would be about to pick up the phone and call the midwife... match of the day would kick off in my tummy and yes usually using my bladder as the ball so get used to that one
I used to find an ice lolly used to do the trick.

I'm definately with jj on one of those names I like Archie too.
none of my DC have middle names but I do wish now that I had given the boys middle names as Fraser would be Fraser William after my father and Regan would be Regan John after DH father.
Actually would I be right in thinking that you can change names on a birth certificate within the first 12 months?

I think the reason things like this really bother me is we keeping hearing about how overstretched the NHS is. Well, obviously they are if they waste everyone's time! Including their own!

Okay, I'm over it now!

Mum41 I like Archie but not Archibald, and can't bring myself to use the diminutive as the actual name - don't know why . I didn't know you could change birth certificates but it would be worth checking out; those second names work really well with teh boys' first ones. Our DC have not only a middle name but my surname (we're married but kept our own names) as a 3rd name so their names are nearly as long as royalty

ermintrude my husband has 2 middle names. Its fabulous when you're mad at him!

He is refusing to give the baby two though. Says its cruel!

Oooo, ermintrude are you sure Tedmund would be character forming ???? I think I'm with your DH on that one!

I'm not sure about using the diminutive over the full name either. Quite a few people have asked me what I can shorten Verity and Iris to.... WHY? I suppose they could be Veri, Ris, Vee, Iri....or "GIRLS, get you a*ses here NOW!" Their middle names are Katharine and May - one after my bessie mate and the other after my mum's middle name. I thought about chucking my surname into the mix but with a Serbian last name I thought it would be way too much

DPs middle name is Konstantin and his brother's is Vitold........hahahahah bet none of you would be queing up for either of those eh Mine is Susan..........it's just SO mid-sixties!