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November/December babies

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monkey · 10/03/2003 17:42

Hell, I've just found out I'm expecting No. 3 mid November, and am very excited. A bit scared too - I can't remember a thing! How can I possibly have done this twice already??? Hope more of you can join me soon!

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susanmt · 21/06/2003 11:27

Hana, so sad to hear your news. Hope that you are getting well looked after and taking your time over getting back to life in general.

I'm posting for the first time in ages too. I had a scan on Monday and everything is fine - I even have a date at last - 13th Dec, but as both the others were early (4 days and 10 days) I'm hopeful of early december!
But I am having a BAD time with my kidneys. I'm going into hospital on Monday for a couple of days for tests, some rehydration (as I'm still being sick a lot and I need to take in 8 pints a day for my kidneys, I'll have a couple of days on a drip, just to boost things a bit) and to sit there while my Ob gets in touch with a specialist in Kidney probs in Pregnancy (I think she said it was someone in Glasgow) and finds out if I need to go down there for an appointment. Hope not! We just need to know if there is anything else we can do to help me (other than loads of fluids and pethedine if required).
I'll keep you posted. Wish it was december, I love babies but I HATE being pregnant, this was why I was never doing it again!!!

Rachael17 · 21/06/2003 16:06

hugely scary morning today.
stayed at a friends house last night and was on my way home this morning wen i started to get really bad abdominal pains by the time i got to the bus stop to go home i was unable to walk it was so bad. the hospital is on the way home so i got off the bus and practically crawled to the antenatal ward.
was pleased by peoples attitudes got seen straight away and sorted even got to hear the babys heart beat. als ok now tho doctor thought it was jus severe stretching of ligaments.am so glad nothing is wrong had a major panick attack as i thought i was gonna miscarry. at home now resting and havin family run after me.
although very disapointed by dad to b he was in bed with another woman so its over with him completely jus glad for the support of my family

hana my love goes out to u in this horrible time hope u r ok and best of luck if u decided to try for another baby.

also susanmt i agree i cant wait till novemeber preganacy can be so boring somedays everyone i knew made it out to b the best thing in the world

love to everyone else and all those tiny babies waiting to come screamin into the world.lol god help our sleep patterns!!!!

grommit · 21/06/2003 19:09

Rachel - that must have been horribole for you. I kept getting strong cramps with my last pregnancy and it was ligaments.
I had a fun morning - went to the airport to fly to see parents and ended up fainting at the checkin - very scarey. The airline staff were great and fast-tracked me through to departures. I have never fainted before in my life - it was horrible - hope it was just the heat and nothing to worry about...

monkey · 21/06/2003 20:45

Glad everything's ok Rachael, and sorry to hear you're still having a hard time Susanmt - pregnancy is tough sometimes isn't it, but in my case the s**t hits the fan after the birth - both previous times had really bad thyroid problems & taken months to recover, so on the one hand I'm getting fed up, crossing of the days (and hours) till November, on the other hand at least I feel opk-ish now, just sciatica which is gradually getting worse. Certainly passed the amusing stage now.

Grommit, I'm sure it was the heat & the standing round & nothing to worry about.

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WideWebWitch · 21/06/2003 22:52

Rachael, sorry to hear this but glad your baby's ok. susanmt, was wondering how and where you were - sorry to hear about your stones. Grommit, sorry too about your faint and you monkey about your sciatica! What a sickly lot we are - I've been to dr today as I woke with an itchy rash and NHS Direct thought I ought to go in. She had no idea what it was, thought maybe an allergic reaction so I'm hoping it'll be gone tomorrow. But I've been scratching all day, horrible. My ankles are swollen too so I'm damned attractive all round really

Rhubarb · 21/06/2003 22:52

Rachel, sorry to hear about your scare and your boyfriend. I got cramps with my first too, I think my pelvic bones were moving as my hips are definitely wider since giving birth, which for me is good as I no longer look like a boy!! As for your b/f, well he obviously isn't as mature as you! Boys don't mature until their late-twenties I'm afraid, and even then finding a decent one is a hard struggle. But you will, just bide your time.

Aside from that, I have the midwife coming to see me about my home birth plans on Tuesday. I'm very relieved as, since my threatened miscarriage, I've been very paranoid about this one. My tummy seems to have stopped growing, I'm 16 weeks but can still fit into my jeans with a belt to hold them up. I'm just convincing myself that it has died. So I hope she checks it's heartbeat and puts my mind at rest.

hana · 22/06/2003 10:32

want to say thanks again for your lovely messages...nearly a week on and I'm feeling better about things. Had the chance to talk to a genetic counsellor last week which was really useful. Not feeling that all will be doom and gloom for future pregnancies. I'm sure I'll be very anxious when it does happen though. Hubby is convinced that I'll be pregnant before Christmas, really really hope so!!
I'm going home to see my family for most of the summer soon, my younger siblings are both getting married, so lots of happiness to look forward to. Mumsnet has been a bright spot for me too, now that I'm not so tired and have a bit of energy back my addiction I'm sure will return......
have a lovely summer with your bumps
hana

Ghosty · 22/06/2003 10:49

hana .... I have just caught up with your sad news and I just wanted to say that I am thinking of you and that I have been there too. I had a miscarriage at 12 weeks last year and was devastated. What got me through was the love and support from family and friends and the amazing support of mumsnet.
Happily I am pregnant again now ... and although it is only early days (8 weeks) I do feel positive about this one .... and although the miscarriage was really hard to cope with things did get better as time went on.
Lots of hugs from me to you {{{}}}

Rachael17 · 22/06/2003 12:42

thank u for all your support.went to c a couple of friends last night as i was feeling fine again.dad 2 b turned up and didnt even say hello to me.then went to go get some food and after eating the pain started up again he cud see how much it was hurting me and wasnt even concerend.
so now i want no more to do with him i have the support from my lovely family and i dont need anymore stress!!
felt the first movement from my baby this morning was so relieved because of yesterdays events. now cant wait till november only 22 1/2 weeks to go

Rhubarb · 24/06/2003 14:34

I got to hear the baby's heartbeat today so that was reassuring too. Can't say I'm looking forward to the due date, but at least it will all be over and I'll be able to drink my bottle of Baileys! Pity you can't get sloshed during labour, I'm sure it would help!

tinyfeet · 24/06/2003 14:55

Rhubarb, My favorite part of every appointment is hearing the heartbeat.
Susanmt, I haven't posted in a little while as well. Hope your kidneys are ok. Drink as much water as you can manage. I am not getting sick as much any more, but am a little nauseous. I have much more energy these days than before though, which of course means that I can actually fix a sandwich for myself instead of eating McDonald's (I know - bad mummy!!). I have found out that my official due date is Christmas! I'm hoping the baby will be late and go into January. For some reason, I'd much prefer a January baby or December. Hugs to all your bumps.

WideWebWitch · 24/06/2003 20:59

I'm getting fed up with people saying 'when's it due?' and then looking surprised or telling me 'ooh aren't you big' when I tell them November. It's like they've forgotten that pregnancy is 40 weeks and they just don't think you should show or something until you're 7 months. Is anyone else getting this? I was very reassured by someone (motherinferior?) saying that people made similar comments to her even though she only put on a stone. God, it's annoying though. How exactly am I supposed to feel when they say these things? I'm 19 weeks and not THAT big - I'm still managing to fit into a size 16 skirt for example. Any good retorts? Do you think it's just because people think November is eons away?

monkey · 24/06/2003 21:28

I have exactly the same www. One particular peson has said several tims how a colleague at work is smaller than me & is already 6 or 7 months. Or someone else asking, but isn't it only xcm? Again, I haven't put on that much, but am showing a lot I suppose - more to do with absence os tummy muscles folowing 1 c-section, 2 babies & n exercise!

I'm rubbish at retorts. I just smile, agree I'm a fat cow then go home & sulk for a week.

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Rachael17 · 24/06/2003 21:33

www i have the same problem people think im much further than i am but i cudnt b bothered about wat strangers say
at least my baby is healthy and growing well although i do wish it wudnt sit right on my bladder wen im tryin to enjoy shopping!!
does anybody get annoyed with people trying to touch their belly everyone does it to me and i hate it it really irritates me

StripyMouse · 24/06/2003 21:48

www - I can really relate to the surprised attitude of strangers/friends when they discover my bump is only 20 weeks old. It really pees me off when they look shocked and try to cover themselves by saying unhelpful things like "oh, well, it is your second and they tend to show earlier..." or "going to be a big baby then..." blah blah. It is so insenstive and rude and at the wrong moment can even make me feel tearful! To add to the list of insults - I caught my DH telling his mum on the phone that he didn?t think I was one of those women who "bloomed" in pregnancy as I look just as awful as I did last time...thanks a lot! I know he didn?t mean for me to over hear but I did and it really upset me that he honestly thought I looked really crap when pregnant. Not much of an ego boost. That was yesterday and as a friend told me I looked exhausted and washed out this morning at the local Toddlers group it is just amazing that I have any sense of humour left at all - in fact I don?t think I have. God, I wish they made non alcoholic Baileys...

Rachael17 - I have just read your post about your scare and how your ex has really let you down. You really have had a rough ride recently and I hope that all the cyber hugs and best wishes sent to you via mumsnet has helped you feel a bit better about things. Pleased to read that the scare turned out to be ligament pains rather than anything really serious - it is so scary when you experience this and I can totally relate to the feeling of sheer panic. I went through this in my first pregnancy when out Christmas shopping on my own and it was so frightening. As for your so called BF - what a !@**. I am so sorry that he has let you down so badly. The only positive thing to say about it is that at least you have found out what he is like now rather than to be let down further along the road when it could have become far more complicated and difficult to deal with. Glad to see that your family is there for you - everyone deserves to have support when pregnant and close family is just about the best sort there is IMHO. Keep yer chin up and let us know how you get on. Hugs.

StripyMouse · 24/06/2003 21:57

Rachael - just read your last post. I hated having my tummy touched, even by friends let alone strangers and complained to my sister about it. She turned round and told me to tell them straight and if they didn?t like it that it was their problem - and that is exactly what I have done ever since! I do it in a rather jokey kind of way and just back off a bit and say that I would rather they didn?t touch my stomach as it was a "wierd pregnancy thing" and I had a phobia about being touched. Although it is a bit of a cop out and a white lie making out I have the problem (as i think they are the ones with a boundary problem thinking it is ok to go round touching people..) it works and people don?t feel too embarrassed as they think they are doing me a favour by not touching me! Bit crazy but if you are a polite wimp like me and don?t like to ask people to back off and keep their distance, it is an alternative that can work. Don?t understand why being pregnant makes us game for having our personal lives, weight, health and body discussed openly by strangers, let alone being suddenly socially acceptable to be prodded! Just wait till those breast feeding eager midwives get their hands on your boobs..they have no shame or respect for personal space! (only partly joking there but not feeling up to a fight about breast feeding or defending midwives positive approach)

Rhubarb · 25/06/2003 21:38

Rachael, I got so fed up with the tummy touching during my last pregnancy that I used to wear a t-shirt emblazoned with the words 'Look but don't touch!'. It was meant for your boobs obviously, but I found it worked very well for my bump!

WWW and others. I had people during my last pregnancy say to me and my friends that I looked ridiculous! A stick with a bump is how they put it. So no matter what shape or size you are, people will always be nasty, dunno why. Maybe it makes them feel better to put other people down, and when you're pregnant it's almost like you're easy game. You could always say "Well I have a good excuse to be fat, what's yours?" or "At least this is temporary, you have to live with your face forever!" You see what they don't count on is those raging hormones that turn you into the devil incarnate!

Dannie · 26/06/2003 11:12

I did once tell a colleague of DH 'You're looking pretty fat yourself'. I later apologised, but, pleasingly, so did he. It drives me insane too. Did these people's mothers never teach them any manners? Much as I love my boss, I'm not sure I'm going to make it through this pregnancy without pointing out that while, yes, I am getting bigger, HE is losing his hair.

monkey · 26/06/2003 13:59

Someone must have a cunning & polite (albeit veiled) retort for this. you can't hardly say to my aunty 'at least you're stuck with being ugly' - or something along those lines! Mind you, some of you clearly can! I just laugh nevously & feel envious at your daring abruptness!

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bunnyrabbit · 26/06/2003 14:08

What about rubbing her tummy and asking how she's feeling today?

susanmt · 26/06/2003 15:12

Back home! Had an awful couple of days in hospital - my own consultant was away and had a terrible time with the other one who was looking after me. She told me that if I have to keep taking strong painkillers I will have to go to Inverness for the last month of my pregnancy and have the baby there because of the lack of facilities in Stornoway. That just about ended me! I had ds in Stornoway after months of painkillers and no bother. I know my own consultant will be more laid back but she terrified me. She wants to do all sorts of weird and wonderful tests, which I had the last time and all came back normal - I just develop lots of UTI's and therefore get kidney stones when I am pregnant and there seems to be no reason for it. She was very arrogant about the whole thing, like she knew better than me, and rather than discussing things with me she just told me what to do - which I hate! She obviously knows less about kidney stones than I do (had never heard of them being linked to infections for example when this is very common!) - but then I have made it my business to become a bit of an expert on it!
Also at home I was able to get pain releif immediately (either dh would give me the injection - or if he is out he has taght me to do it myself) but in hospital I had to put up with midwives saying 'do you want some paracetamol then dear?' and then taking 20 mins to find the pethidine, while I was vomiting in the toilet (or on my bed - they found the painkillers MUCH quicker that time!). So I was in more pain in hospital that I am at home, which is ridiculous!
Anyway, all we found out is that I have Strep B, which is pretty crucial, and I'm on antibiotics for that - and they're going to check it out again before the birth obviously. The strep B urine infection is more likely to make stones so that could be giving us a clue as to what is going on. But we found this out from a sample I gave to my GP last week, so that wasn't even a hospital thing. AAAAAArrrrrgh!
I did, however, see a lovely anaesthatist who runs the pain management clinic. He has sorted me out with a different painkiller which is less addictive and has less of a chance of causing dependence in the baby. It is more unusual though so the hospital pharmacy didnt stock it, so they've ordered it for me and I'll get a big box of it tomorrow! Thank goodness for that. Funny how the only doc who listened to me was the one that spends most of his time with people who are asleep!
Glad to be home anyway. Looking at the last mesages - I'm not showing yet but only because there is so much of me. I look about 5 months pregnant all the time!!

whellid · 26/06/2003 17:08

Susanmt, sorry to hear that your stay in hospital was so awful. I hope when your consultant gets back they can reassure you that you don't have to go to Inverness. Good that the StrepB has been picked up, and is being treated, and I hope that the rest of your pregnancy is uneventful.

WideWebWitch · 26/06/2003 18:47

Susanmt, what a horrible time of it you've had. Consultant sounds nasty too. At least they picked up the Strep B, so I suppose that's something and at least you're home now (trying to be optimistic for you!)
While we're on the size thing, a woman at school said to me today "not long to go now hey?" I know none of you can see me but I had size 14 trousers on today (pushed under my bump) and I'm really not that big. So I know I shouldn't let it get to me but it did. She had a baby with her too so you'd have thought she'd have remembered that when it's "not long now" you are, in fact, the size of a small house. Sorry for moaning on about this but it's really pi**ing me off (no, really?) and I need to let off steam. Thanks for listening

monkey · 27/06/2003 12:10

susanmt, sorry you had such a bad time in hospital, but good news you're back home. Hope with these anti biotics & the new painkillers you can turn a corner.

WWW, I think yuo're gonna have to be brave & be rude (says she who'd never dare). Maybe sayingmatter-of-factly, 'actually , no I'm 19 weeks now and have 21 to go' might embarrass her enough without actually being rude?

I feel annoyed about it too, on your bahalf as well as all pg woman. i mean - these people wouldn't go up to a non-pg person & say they were looking a bit fat, woul;d they? And like you said, you'd think anyone who'd had a baby, especially recently, would realise sensitivity is important.

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