Is one large glass of wine every other night whilst pg ok, or not?

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and if your friend was drinking this much, would you say something, or not?

great info thumbwitch - how does alcohol affect the baby who is breast fed?

And other sorts of spices? DS seems to be OK with vindaloo, but not with, believe it or not, pickles. Maybe I got it wrong?

vindaloo but no pickles... that's funny. .

i read an article... ok, it was in the independent, that said that new studies in England are proving that binge drinking is less harmful to the unborn child because of (enter scientific data that escapes now) and there isn't the constant flow of alcohol through the blood stream as in a woman who imbibes every day or two.

go figure. all i know is that i can't stand the smell of alcohol right now being 13 weeks pregnant.

if your friend's lifestyle is overall healthy, just leave it maybe. i'd likely say something to bring the topic up like, 'i can't believe you can drink. when i was pregnant there was no way i could stomach it.'

found this article while trying to find the one you mention, chefswife - it is interesting but not the right one. Can you link to the article you mentioned please?

sidetracking a bit more: the current concerns about FASD and even small amounts of alcohol leading to violence or ADHD amongst other things in this article - I think it is not relevant to say that this didn't happen a generation or so ago, so it won't happen now. So much has changed in terms of general nutrition that it wouldn't be at all surprising that small amounts of alcohol have a more pronounced effect now than they might have done a couple of generations ago. And it will probably get worse before it gets better.

ilovemydog - the advantage that the bf'ing baby has over the foetus is a better-developed liver. However, it still probably shouldn't be subjected to a lot of alcohol as it is still quite an immature liver; but if it has developed properly it should be able to detox the alcohol in very small amounts (it's a very small liver) - and in the meantime your own liver will also be detoxing the alcohol too, it isn't 'from the mouth to the breast'.

Thumbwitch, that article about alcohol and violence is a perfect example of fuckwitted misogyny. This bloke offers no evidence at all to support his 'beliefs' and even he states them in vague terms 'might do', 'suspect'. The whole FASD is pretty much a crock of crap: labelling kids early on for minor naughtiness or insufficient subservience to whatever crackpot schemes are currently being pushed in schools and then blaming it on their mothers.
Because blaming women for being selfish bitches who won't just buckle down and fulfill their function of being breeding machines with no rights is a good way to express concern about things that are wrong without actualy having to spend any government money on addressing poverty, or discrimination, or the failings of the education system...

Thanks all, did read most of the thread, starlight, but must have missed the placenta bit.

I was really unhappy when I had to take asthma medication in the first trimester. The Dr advised me it was better to do that than to deprive the baby of oxygen, and that the risk should be fairly minimal.

Can't imagine drinking alcohol just because I felt like it when pg.

I really don't think FASD is pretty much a crock of crap, but I guess people make their own decisions about their children's lives.

i know someone who is affected by FAS however that mother and father were alcoholics. raging. he did grow up with a few glitches but is a normal adult with a job, a wife and a child. every country has different guidelines for pregnant women to follow. Italy and France don't have the same guidelines on consuming wine as England. in Canada i can eat any cheese i want because of all cheeses need to be pasteurized, including blue and rind cheeses. in Japan, eating sushi isn't bad. woman's overall diet should be considered and not just the amount of alcohol that is consumed in week.

thumbwich no, i can't find that article. i read it in a paper on the train months and months ago.