Vaccines = autism?

[Demdem6]

Hello

so I am currently pregnant with a baby boy and my partner is strongly against getting him vaccinated when he gets here as he believes vaccines cause / increase risk of autism,
especially in boys

id never thought twice about this but now hes put it in my head. Yes ive done my own research but hes saying doctors and the internet will tell you what you want to hear because they want you to vaccinate your kids. Tbh hes a conspiracy theorist

i just want to hear from people who vaccinated their sons and their son didn’t develop it? I know some people will shout at me for this, not my intention to offend anyone

I got measles (1950s ) it made me deaf . Before vaccinations many children died from childhood diseases we now have vaccinations for . In victorian times 1 out of 4 died from simple diseases ie measles mumps diphtheria. Don't put your child at risk . Is DH vaccinated BTW? Ask his Mum .

But you'll happily rely on others protecting your child via herd immunity? You're a hypocrite.

OP looks up the potential outcomes of you child develops measles, mumps, rubella etc and then decide if you are happy to risk blindness and death instead of your view that vaccines cause autism (which they don't). Also read about the widespread measles outbreak recently in uni students.

Covid was a vector vaccine. The whole point of them was to be rapidly deployed when we’re in the shit.

One of colleagues died of covid before the vaccine, she came here for a better life with her dh and kids.

You can walk with the flu, albeit with shaky legs and you might not be able to go far before you get very tired, dizzy or nauseous. It is true that people conflate cold and flu though which I agree is annoying.

When I last had a flu I didn't eat anything for two days. I made myself a bowl of soup in the first day of eating nothing and couldn't even touch it, that's when I knew it was serious. Every time I got up for the loo my legs would shake.

Anyway, OP vaccines are extremely important, especially for children who have both undeveloped immune systems and more susceptibility to complications with any infection. Some of the things we vaccinated against used to kill children or lead to lifelong issues. If you could go back in time and see the sick children who couldn't be vaccinated you would definitely want to vaccinated your children.

The Dr that started this nonsense has been struck off and quite rightly!! My son is vaccinated and no autism!!

We have had children die of whooping cough in my patch, I have had no children die of autism - ffs your partner is an idiot.

My child had cancer. Let’s say my child caught measles or chicken pox from your unvaccinated child. And due to my child being immune compromised it killed him. Would you feel any responsibility?
Or, if the situation were reversed, and your child had cancer, and caught something off an unvaccinated child, would you not feel angry that that child wasn’t vaccinated?

Look up measles, whooping cough (pertussis) and tetanus. These are all real risks for your child if you don’t have them vaccinated. Not just for herd immunity or protecting the immunocompromised. No, those three could kill your child if they are unlucky enough to be exposed to the virus or bacteria and aren’t protected by the vaccination program.

Absolutely perhaps my wording wasnt great, but what I meant it people walking around going about their daily business with a cold, telling people its the flu

The decrease in mortality rates and lifelong disabilities caused by childhood illnesses speak for themselves.

Plus I'd rather have an autistic child than a dead one.

To answer your question - my son is vaccinated and doesn’t have autism.

Does that anecdote from a stranger on the internet who could be lying make you feel more confident in vaccinating your son?

I used to work with a man who had ' a touch of flu' every winter. We alway rolled our eyes because we knew that if a person has flu and they were offered a million quid to get out of their front door they would not be able to do it. He had the sniffles. He had no idea how bad flu is. I had it at 18 and if Paul Newman had wanted to me to run away with him I would have refused. ( showing my age there!)

OP was already posting laughing emojis at people trying to persuade her that there was no link between vaccines and autism, and that not vaccinating was a bad idea, so was either on a wind up, or not prepared to listen and engage anyway.

I'm also waiting for @mumofb2 to explain which vaccines are outdated, and why?

I got a very mild dose of Covid just before being called for the 1st vaccination. It resulted in Long Covid. After 5 years, I'm now getting over it, but still have issues with fatigue and breathlessness. There are over 2 million of us LC cases in the UK. From my perspective, vaccinations are really important.

No sorry it wasnt meant for you x sorry to hear of your bad experience!

People have said this for years it’s not true😂 my mum had all 8 kids vaccinated and a few of us are autistic the rest aren’t, we’re autistic because my dad is, and even if it was true your partners basically saying he’d rather the child die from an infection than be autistic

I am autistic/ADHD, my youngest child is autistic, as is my brother, both my nephews, as was my father, and I suspect my mum is too. So was Jedediah Buxton, a distant relative on my mothers side, in the 1700’s, when there were no vaccines.

And finally, autistic people are not sick, or broken, or defective, we are just different. It causes us some difficulties because our society is set up by and for neurotypical people, but autism isn’t a nasty side effect to be avoided, and the attitude of these idiot antivaxxers is honestly extremely offensive to us.

Your boyfriend is an idiot, vaccinate your child.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedediah_Buxton

Same im waiting on @mumofb2 for that reason too

Dont think she'll be back 👀🤷‍♀️

I am a sensible person (generally). My eldest child is profoundly autistic & I questioned every single decision I made through my pregnancy & his early childhood.

During my 2nd pregnancy, feeling scared and a bit vulnerable I stupidly allowed myself to be influenced by someone claiming the RSV vaccine could have neurological effects on the baby. I didn't get the vaccine. I could only consider the impacts of the vaccine, and assumed he wouldn't be ar risk of the illness.

Guess what? My baby contracted RSV, and came frighteningly close to dying, spent 4 days in an induced coma on a ventilator.

I still struggle to forgive myself.

I have an autistic child and I promise you, it’s better than having a child die from meningitis etc.

The intense and insulting replies started before she used those emojis. Who knows how she might have engaged if she'd been given measured, useful advice. Maybe she wouldn't and would have continued not to vaccinate but we'll never know because the opportunity was lost.

2 fully vaccinated kids , 1 has autism (girl), 1 doesn’t (boy) ….. guess it was those poxy vaccines for my daughter not genetics.

No idea what caused my unvaccinated Nephews autism.…..

You clearly don’t want to vaccinate your child, so no idea why you have posted.

You actually do need to research it and realise autism cannot be caused by vaccinations. Then show your partner. Andrew Wakefield was struck off practicing medicine because of this.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3136032/

Get your partner to read 'The doctor who fooled the world' by Brian Deer.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Fooled-World-Wakefields/dp/191161780X

One of my older cousins almost died of smallpox in India in the 1940s because her parents refused to vaccinate her. Measles can kill.

How was it forced on people? Clearly no-one forced you to have the vaccinations.

Don’t beat yourself up, you made what you felt the best decisions were at the time.