Vaccines = autism?

[Demdem6]

Hello

so I am currently pregnant with a baby boy and my partner is strongly against getting him vaccinated when he gets here as he believes vaccines cause / increase risk of autism,
especially in boys

id never thought twice about this but now hes put it in my head. Yes ive done my own research but hes saying doctors and the internet will tell you what you want to hear because they want you to vaccinate your kids. Tbh hes a conspiracy theorist

i just want to hear from people who vaccinated their sons and their son didn’t develop it? I know some people will shout at me for this, not my intention to offend anyone

OP, would you like to hear about watching my step daughter die of cervical cancer because she hadn't been vaccinated against hpv? It took two years. She was 23. She had a hysterectomy in a bid to beat the cancer, then lost a kidney. She was barely more than a child.

Please don't listen to him. He's an ignorant idiot. As a parent it is your duty to safeguard your child and in your case that means protecting your little one from their father. 😦

this is your opinion. Personally I opted out of the rotavirus.. and that’s ok. If I could have hand selected 1 or 2 out the 6 in 1 vaccine I would have.

My son has had all his vaccinations and isn’t autistic. However, if your partner has done his research and decided that he doesn’t want your son vaccinated based on that information, then having a few anecdotal experiences on here isn’t going to change his mind!

Have you/ your partner looked up the side effects of the diseases the vaccines prevent? I personally know people who are deaf and infertile from mumps for example (we had an outbreak at university). It might help to balance up your decision making somewhat?

Autism existed before vaccinations. It was just known as something different. Those people affected were locked in asylums or just known as ‘weird’. Thank goodness things have moved on from then.

You’re going to get lots of difficult responses on here. As far as I know, there is absolutely no credible research that has found any link at all. Credible meaning trusted and well respected institutions carrying out large scale trials. Not anecdotal evidence or conspiracy theories. There is however a lot of evidence that the diseases the vaccines prevent can cause significant and long term harm (including death) to people who contract them.

Wow, certainly a lot of angry people on here isn’t there 😂😂

Which are outdated? I’m curious.

Is it wrong to be angry at parents being willing to risk their lives over a conspiracy theory?

I read the stats are that between 1 and 3 children out of 1000 contracting measles die from it. ( That's just a quick search, I'm no medical expert) .Are you comfortable with exposing your child to that risk?

Not angry, just despairing of the ignorance that endangers children's lives.

Not sure where I personally said people lie on the internet? 🤣 to break it down a bit for you though, remember how the Covid vaccine was practically forced on us a few years ago? Doctors swearing you needed to get it or you’d be seriously ill. Lots of people refused and ended up fine, myself included. Hence why I thought I’d ask people who had actually experienced it. Hope that helps :)

Me too. In fact, I’m curious to know what ‘outdated’ even means in the context of vaccinations.

I wonder if they mean vaccinated against diseases we don’t really hear about any more? It’s funny how some diseases just seem to have stopped being a problem since we started widespread vaccination campaigns against them isn’t it?

Guys - chill out, seriously 😂😂

I don’t need medical journals, I just asked simply WHO VACCINATED THEIR SONS and autism didn’t happen. I don’t understand why people are so triggered by this 😂

Most of the population vaccinated their sons and their sons did not develop autism. Nor did their hair turn purple, which is an equally likely side effect.

Sounds like you’re anti vaccine as well. Would you like to talk to my DH, he was a doctor working on the Covid wards at a hospital. Covid was real - it killed!

I think many people are more exasperated than angry. They actually care enough to try to persuade you to vaccinate for your child’s sake. It’s really sad that children and young people have died because they weren’t vaccinated.

Btw if you want peer-reviewed medical evidence that declare any possible conflicts of interest add ‘pubmed’ to your search terms to get to a medical research database. All the best with your pregnancy!

Would you rather you child have autism or die a painful death?

On a similar note, undoubtedly many of the people who had the covid jab would be dead now otherwise. Have you forgotten how many people were dying from covid daily six years ago?

Based on your previous posts, you wouldn’t understand medical journals, so good that you don’t want them.

Eight vaccinated boys in our family and none have autism. Not sure how this actually helps you as you already know many, many such boys exist but knock yourself out with that info.

I’m anti COVID vax, yes. And that’s fine, it’s MY personal choice. Simply because I feel the vaccine was rushed and hadn’t been tested for years and years. Is that okay? 😂

You were fine because of the number of people who did get vaccinated.

Vaccines work by creating herd immunity. The areas with the lowest vaccination rates got the highest rates of infections and deaths.

People who have no medical issue meaning they can't have a vaccine who chose not to do so are selfishly taking the benefits from others people's actions.

The idea that vaccines cause autism has been extensively studied for more than 25 years, and the evidence absolutely does not support a link.

The myth largely came from a 1998 paper by Andrew Wakefield that suggested a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. That paper was later found to be deeply flawed and unethical:

• The study only involved 12 children … that is far too small to prove causation.
• Medical records showed the data had been misrepresented.
• Wakefield had financial conflicts of interest tied to lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers.
• Other researchers could not replicate the findings.
• The journal fully retracted the paper.
• Wakefield lost his medical licence in the UK.

Since then, scientists around the world have done very large, high-quality studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children. These include studies involving hundreds of thousands - and in some cases over a million - children. They consistently found no increased autism risk from vaccines, including the MMR vaccine or vaccines containing thimerosal.

A few important points that helped researchers figure this out:

• Autism signs often become noticeable around the same age children receive vaccines (around 1-2 years old), which can make the timing feel suspicious even when one didn’t cause the other.
• Autism rates continued to rise even after thimerosal was removed from most childhood vaccines in many countries.
• If vaccines caused autism, researchers would expect autism rates to be much higher in vaccinated children - but that pattern simply doesn’t appear in the data.

Scientists now think autism is mainly related to genetics and differences in early brain development before birth, with some environmental influences also being studied.
Major organisations worldwide agree vaccines do not cause autism, including World Health Org, NHS, CDC.

One of the strongest pieces of evidence was a Danish study of over 650,000 children that found no link between MMR vaccination and autism.

Please vaccinate your boy x

You’re surprised that people get angry when others suggest that they’ve caused their child’s autism by having them vaccinated?
I have one children. One is autistic, two aren’t. All three were vaccinated. All three are wonderful children whose lives are equally as valuable.

My ds17 has had all the vaccines. Including against hpv to protect him from the cancer-causing virus that killed his sister.
I've just booked him to have his Meningitis B jab before he goes to university in September. Perhaps your partner would be against that too, and risk his son losing his limbs or dying in his teens.

This is serious stuff OP, you cannot allow your partner to even delay vaccinations because ever day you delay is a day he is putting your child at risk. Why would you want someone like that within a country mile of your child?

Why are vaccines outdated?? 😳

My son was hospitalised with chicken pox. He was exceedingly ill.

(before there was a chicken pox vaccine available or at least that I knew about it)

my cousin is infertile due to mumps.

please vaccinate your children.

As a PP kindly pointed out above, go and ask any mum of boys- 88.6% (roughly) have vaccinated their boys without ‘catching’ autism from it. For what it’s worth I have two boys. Both vaccinated. One autistic, one not. If I’d refused the vaccines then I’d still have two boys. One autistic, one not.

Honestly, it baffles me that these people walk among us. I’d be far, far more concerned with my son inheriting his father’s stupidity.