Pregnancy After Miscarriage Part IV------Welcome to Knicker Checker's Anonymous

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Ooops, the thread filling up sneaked up on us didn't it!

Can't see another one yet...so here we are

Tryingnotot...that is fantastic news . I hope you can enjoy your weekend in Barcelona. I heart Barcelona and am v

Thanks cricri - I like the healthy and well mantra, I think I'll stick with that until I hear otherwise (fingers crossed).

mm1509 I think 6 weeks may be a bit early if what you're worried about is miscarriage - if you wait a few more days there is a better chance of seeing a hb. My concerns are a bit different, in that if it is another ectopic I won't want to see a heartbeat (as that limits the treatment options...). My scan is booked for 6 weeks but I have half a mind to bring it forward to 5.5weeks to give me more time to deal with any problems. It's just a shame I can't speak to my GP about this (can't get an appointment!) as I am sure that would help me see things more clearly...

Scary - I see what you mean, in my GP's surgery we can normally phone and speak to your own GP (well they call you back when they are free), it might be an option if you cannot get an appointment. If not and you have the option it may be an idea to move the scan date forward it's probably the only thing that will put your mind at ease.
It's pretty poor that you can't get an appointment given your previous history.

Hope we are all just being paranoid we will look back and smile in a few months, remember what cricri said "healthy and well".

(wish there was a smiley for fingers crossed)

Oh, I spoke to a GP who told me that I needed an appointment in order to get a referral and that she would sort it. Then I spoke to the receptionist who told me they could fit me in in September, unless a cancellation comes up in the meantime (but I have a job and need to be able to give notice of when I am not going to be in). I gave up and booked a private scan instead. It's too much like hard work and I feel like I should be being zen and calm to allow my bean to nestle in properly!

I don't think we need cross anything. A few weeks from now we'll have our scan results, everything will be fine and life will go on.

Thanks for your support everyone.

WMMC I particularly enjoyed your rant, it's so nice to be in among people who completely understand. I have to say I was a bit at the clerkess' attitude but TBH I'm not really that suprised. It makes me so mad that they don't seem to grasp people who have mc are nervous wrecks and sometimes a bit of TLC is all it takes to calm down a bit. I can't face going to A&E sitting among the piss heads on a Friday afternoon (I live in Glasgow and they like to drink - not that everyone in Glasgow does but quite a lot do ) for a junior doctor to finally see me and tell me to go to EPU on Monday. They're shut over the weekend but it's not bank holiday up here in Scotland so that's one thing I suppose. Bleeding has settled for now (brown on wiping only). I've just got tummy pain but that could be to do with the tub of ice cream from the local shop my friend just brought round that I sat and scoffed .

mm1509 TBH I found seeing the sac and fetal pole at 6wks really reassuring even if it's no guarantee you're not going to go on and mc it makes the time seem slightly less cruel. I've been reading Lesley Regans book and was suprised at the difference in the rates of "take home babies" when couples were given lots of reassurance and TLC only. The RCOG guidelines are a 6wk scan then 7-10 days afterwards if you have mc recurrently I think - I may be wrong though.

Scary I like your stance zen and calm is definately the way to be. Just wish the NHS fostered those feelings in us!

Welcome to everyone new.
I am really bloody angry again. I thought that the so called health professsionals were being given guidelines to deal with ladies who are MCing or with history. It is very apparent from poor Scotlass that it hasnt happen yet!!!!

Scotlass did you speak to a midwife at all today? Or to someone who gives a crap?
I would personnally go to A&E and sit there until someone took some notice. You have a history of 4 mc that isnt something to be taken lightly. Emotionally or physically.
Sorry I havent felt this angry about it all for ages. I thought my anger had ebbed away with every passing day of this pregnancy. Obviously not.

Iliketosleep Now tell me are you still here then? he he. A little joke to pass the time and lighten the mood. Good luck with your sweep.

I tell you, it has come to something when we have to wish each other luck for having someone shove their hand as far inside your fanjo as they can reach

Well its all im getting as DP wont do shit lol

I have a headache I hate headaches

Felt a bit bad last night but also quite woohoo as my friend had been ringing me all week but i have been ignoring as i know that it would be another "are you still here" try spicy food, walk etc things again and also are you free for a cup of tea i'll pop round. Now to be honest I'm not very assertive away from the computer so would have said yeah ok come on round even though I'm REALLY not up for visitors.

Anyways, got a text asking if i was ok and that she had been trying to get hold of me. I text back:

"Yeah i'm fine thanks, still no baby so pretty depressed but going in on wednesday to be induced if nothing has happened, hope your ok, will let you know if anything happens"

She replied:

"Glad your ok, I was worried something had happened to you as I couldn't reach you. I'm free to come round for a brew on tuesday if your not in labour!"

To which I thought oh no!!!

So i replied:

"I think i'm going to be a bit busy as its Jamies birthday and I'm going to be getting bags ready for the next day, sorry x"

Then I felt like a complete bitch

She replied:

"Ok no problem hope to see you soon keep me informed"

I felt really guilty but glad as I had got away with no visit but then guilty for feeling that IYKWIM!

Sorry just had to get it off my chest

Wow that was a long post lol sorry

Hi Ladies. I think that I need to check back into knicker checkers anonymous. I found out on thursday that I am pg again (did a test when I was a week late for AF) following a mc in feb. I'm so nervous and keep on analysing my symptoms. Today I don't feel sick so I'm paranoid about that

swaliswan - congratulations and good luck! Do I remember you from the October 08 thread? I mc'd in March and now 8+6. Had a scan this week, and all is well so far - I highly recommend it for preserving your sanity and giving you an early milestone to look forward to. Had to go private in the end but it was totally worth it. Try not to worry [hmmm] about symptoms coming and going - this time has been quite different for me, and I really panicked when boobs started to be much less sore in week 7, but remember that every pregnancy is different, and it's really common for symptoms to come and go.

ilts - I think your friends ought to be happy to go with whatever you need - after all it is about you right now, not them, and you shouldn't have to add their concerns to the list of things to be concerned about .

daisy/lacks - good idea on the name front - I did worry that I might cause name-confusion adding myself to the mix . Impressed at your marathon stroll!

Off to DH's family in Kent for the w/e - have a good one everyone - and scotlass - hope you get some attention over the w/e - xx

Hi Daisyj - yes I was on the October 08 thread but mc. Sorry to hear that you mc too but huge congrats on this pg! I'm hoping that our GP will refer me for an extra 'reassurance' scan at the EPU but wouldn't be surprised if they don't have the capacity for extra scans unless necessary

i cant undersatnd why the units make u wait so long, i was 7weeks pregnant had a bleed had to wait 4 days for a scan where they only saw sac no heart beat, so have to wait another 2 weeks for another scan, but i dont think there is any chance of anything? dont know how to get thro the next 10 days

Hi Ladies, I'm just joining the knicker checkers now. Had 2 m/c's in the last year. Did anybody who did have a m/c experience vaginal pains on and off. I have these pains again now i am 6 weeks pg but had the same pains the last times. I just want to know if anyone else ever got these pains during pg's. Not sure if it is a sign of m/c or just pains associated with pg,
worried sick . Had a scan last tuesday but too early to see sac as I have 32 day cycles.

Thanks for listening

KittyDug I had those pains when pg with DD who is now crying sleeping in her cot. I wonder if it's a strange early pg thing?

Hi to the newcomers, hope your stay here is long and uneventful.

Maz - the waiting must be awful. But I think they wait that long in case your dates are wrong and you're not as far along as you think you are - in 2 weeks they should be able to tell if things are progressing as they should. I also don't think that the heartbeat is always seen at 7 weeks, it seems to vary a bit. And although you bled, there was still the sac to be seen, so fingers crossed for you

Scotlass sorry you're having such a tough time, and having to wait to find out what's happening - everything crossed for you too

Kitty - if you mean period type pain - then definitely had that with dd's pregnancy and this one. This time I had a weekend early on, about 7/8 weeks, where the pain was quite strong and sustained, and I was sure it was all over - I'm 35 weeks tomorrow, and things seem to be OK so far...

Eli - I have no idea if physio will be any use at all, but since they're offering, I'll give it a go! The pain is always on the right, and moves from the front, to the side and to the back, it's mainly when I'm sitting down, and it can be agony - a consultant thought it could be inflammation, the midwife said baby could be bracing its legs against my ribs - who knows! Unfortunately it's been postponed til Tuesday as they'd booked me in with a junior physio who can't treat pregnant women, but I'll let you know if it helps

maz32 I'm getting through the days the only way I know how, taking them one day at a time and trying to distract myself with anything and everything. I even started my christmas shopping today and ordered DD's santa present online today. It's the lack of control that I find the hardest but the frustration of knowing there's absolutely nothing that can be done is terrible. There's so many stories that show seemingly hopeless situations can turn out OK and all the worry/fretting could turn out to be in vain.

ronshar you're really sweet to get so angry on my behalf {grin}. I keep going over the conversation in my head and wishing I'd said I want to speak to a DR or MW NOW!! but I didn't.

The EPU I have to say have been pretty good up to now and I'm sure if the MW I know had been in she would've got me in but tbh I think I'm doing the bury head in the sand thing this weekend and hanging on to the faint glimmer of hope (bleeding has mostly been brown on wiping since yesterday- sorry if TMI, and I do remember that happening a couple of times with DD 10 yrs ago). DH finally phoned this afternoon and hopefully can get home at some point next week. He'd forgotten it was a bank hol on Monday so fingers crossed he can maybe travel up on Sunday.

Hi to kitty I hope your pains settle and you have an uneventful pg.

maz 32 Im in the same boat as you I have o wait 2 weeks for another scan because they could not see any sac because it was too early.The waiting is such torture, just wish I knew what was going on. I have had 2 hcg tests done, 1 of which doubled which meant the pregnancy is progressing, still waiting for the other 1 to come back. Maybe you could ask to have this done, it might ease your worry some bit.

Splishplosh: Thanks for your reply and good luck to you over the next few weeks, hope it all works out ok for you

Swaliswan:I hope it is just an early pg thing as you say, time will tell

oooooooooh my internets being a complete arse

12 hours since sweep and guess what??....I'm still bloody here !

Never mind.

Sorry to hear all you newcomers are having a hard time It will get easier as your pgs progress

i had a miscarriage at begining of june at 6 weeks and fell pregnant again july went for a ultra sound at 6 weeks and the doctor told me it was mesuring too small and tht i could miscarry again 2 days of stressing myself out and found this site i thought maybe i could have overlated late and started to chill out but last nite whilst at a freinds i got very bad cramping so went to toilet and was bleeding very heavey i immidiatly went home called the doctor who is on holiday for the weekend and he said as long as there no clots youll be ok so i got off and within 5 minutes id passed the baby i havnt had bleeding today but i go in monday to check if i need a dnc the doctor had put me on antibiotics...
i want a baby so much but i have been scared for life and evey time i see a baby i just want to melt down i cannot belive this is happning to me again...i dont no how i willcope now i feel im doing somthing wrong and i no im young and have time left to try again but i really want this now...
has anyone else misscarriage 2 time nd had a healthy baby and found out why they misscarried???
thankyou ayse xxxx

ILTS - looking forward to some news soon....... fingers crossed for you

Ronny - you are so right 35 weeks being so near ... yet so far! I can't believe it possible that I could have up to 7 weeks left! Glad to hear you feeling better, rereading your posts (and your's daisy) I have been getting both sorts of pain - get the SPD type pain (low ache in groin, def bones aching) all the time really but worse if have done too much walking or on my feet.

The other pains have been aching lower back, combined with almost electric shock type sharp pains in groin..... I think it is because I am carrying really low - and perhaps it has dropped even further last couple of weeks as they have been worse! Still always worth drinking more than enough - I heard lemon barley was good for UTI's so have been downing that to be on safe side (have already had one batch of anti-biotics).

Scottlass it is terrible how you have been treated. I hope someone sits up and takes notice soon.

justmee - I had 3 m/c in a row and a range of tests afterwards which showed no good reason for them. This one has worked out (so far!). I don't suppose I will ever know why it all happened, and this was ok - was on junior aspirin first 3 months, but consultant was not convinced that it actually would have made any real difference..ho hum. Best of luck to you.

And one more...Popsy just read back over some oldish posts - you REALLY working till week 38! Oh you are superwoman!!

Hi to everyone else (sorry this turned into really long post!)

I hope to have some news for you soon too

Internet connection is still really slow, its took me 20 minutes to load up this page

Hi rainrain glad to hear you are nearly due the new arrival soon after having 3 m/c's. I have had 2 m/c's and Im pg now 6 weeks. Did you have chromosome, blood clotting tests etc done? I had these tests and nothing showed up. the consultant put me on asprin 75mg because I asked him.... because my friend believed it worked for her. I'm worried sick that when I go for a scan that there will be no h/b like the last time.

thanx for your support everyone but since yest have had another bleed quite big one. no one bothered just wait for scan unless i feel dizzy. so havent got much hope xxxxxxx

hi guys, i am joining you, as i feel out of place on the ttc, yet not strong enough to join the antenatal groups
got my positive today, very very faint but still there, which makes me 4w3days pregnant.
i have 2 children already, but this will be my 6th pregnancy. very scared as i miscarried last month with the same thing, a very very faint line 4 days after af due.. have checked my knickers 6 times already today and have banned DH from any hanky panky!
hoping i can count on your support, im moving next month and was really hoping to be past 12 weeks before then, but dh has told me im not moving anything on the day, i can do all the packing instead lmao!

good luck to everyone else on here, and my prayers to all those who have lost recently. partically just me, i know its hard ive had 2 myself, and i have 2 beautiful babies to show for all the worry!

kitty had all the blood clotting, phospholipids, anticardiolipids etc done (think that's what they were!) and nothing showed up, they said "you might aswell, can't hurt, might help". I have no idea if it did help or not, but I have got this far... I was on it till 20 weeks, and then stopped on the advice of the consultant. Best of luck with the scan, it is an awfully hard time. Just try to remain positive and not to get too stressed (easier said than done I know, but I am absolutely positive that other life stresses + stress about m/c again actually contributed to my losses).
Maz so sorry about the bleed hope you are ok....
natty hello welcome. Hope you can try to relax too - this thread has been a life saver for me.