Pregnancy After Miscarriage Part IV------Welcome to Knicker Checker's Anonymous

[lackaDAISYcal]

Ooops, the thread filling up sneaked up on us didn't it!

Can't see another one yet...so here we are

Tryingnotot...that is fantastic news . I hope you can enjoy your weekend in Barcelona. I heart Barcelona and am v

Scotlass Sorry to hear you're still bleeding But even clots don't mean the worst. As for symptoms I'd say they're pretty unreliable (I had ms for several weeks and sore boobs during my first pg and then found out at my 12-week scan that I'd had a mmc and the baby hadn't developed beyond 6 weeks) Hang in there and see what they say at the EPU in the morning. Thinking of you and sorry you're having to go through this worrying time alone.

Hello ladies - think your support might be needed here

Hello everyone just popping after a very long time to see how you are all doing? Congrats to all those with the new babies, and good luck to everyone else. 35 weeks today (and really counting, it does go on for a long time doesn't it - i forgot!. Feeling fine, HUGE with aching pelvis, but good and happy to have got to this stage....

Anyway hope you are all ok.

to Scotlass....

I had a big bleed also that came from a haematoma and everything was fine.

Good luck tomorrow xx

Thanks everyone. My lovely neighbour just came across to see me so had a wee bit of company and a rl shoulder to cry on. I know I should try and stay positive but each time it's getting harder. 4 pregnancies in just over a year have perhaps made me more paranoid. Wish that programme really could make me ten years younger and give me some time to play with.

Anyway hello to all the lovely ladies with baby bumps and thanks for your kind words of support.

Scotlass How are things this morning? I'm pleased your neighbour came over to be with you last night. Let us know how you are.

Hi everyone!

Scotslass - so sorry to hear about the bleeding . How are you this morning? Have you managed to get in touch with the EPU? As others have said, bleeding does not necessarily mean mc. Hopefully things will be ok for you.

Daisy & Ronshar - how are you guys? Are the pains gone/any better? Hope so.

Bunny - will your mw let you see her a wee bit more than is really needed? When I went to see her at 6w, my mw said that she would see me more regularly (even though I am having consultant-led care) so that I could talk about any worries and listen to the hb with her. If you could do that (difficult if you work, I appreciate), it might help ease the worry a bit.

Jules - hope dd is settling with her feeding. No advice for you I'm afraid - FF ds and he was just a guzzling beast!

Had a lovely day yesterday. Took ds to nursery, got a big fat Mucky Ducky's breakfast, then went back to bed with dh . Then went out for posh lunch at Nutters, then back to bed again (well, we don't get many days without ds!) before picking up ds.

It's my birthday on Saturday. Dh is off to Anfield in the afternoon, but we're going to TGI's for tea when he gets back.

Morning ladies.

Scotlass, how are you this morning? Has the bleeding stopped yet. Aspirin will make any small bleed much worse as it is a blood thinner. I hope you get yourself seen today and it is good news for you.

I think all the pain and discomfort from Wednesday was caused by a very mobile little baby turning itself round into a better position! I seem to have dropped some what and also I am getting more presssure low down. All good.
I also have drunk a full liter of Cranberry juice, drowning in water and cut my tea intake down to a couple of cups! Just in case. How is that doctor Daisy?

Jules, I hope your young lady has stopped the nipple torture
Bunny how are you feeling, are you fully paranoid again or just hanging on by your finger tips?
DaisyJ. fantastic news for you. A real baby and everything. It is so exciting to see those first images after MC. It really makes it come alive for you doesnt it.
Rainrain, wow 35 weeks. It is so close and yet so far
WMMC, how are you this morning? A bit worn out by your busy day yesterday I should think. I hope you had a good anniversary.

Hi everyone,

First time poster although I have been lurking around this site for a while, here goes!

Got BFP on Sunday after two mc, one just in Dec at 6 weeks and a mmc at twelve weeks in May (baby stopped growing at 6 weeks). Thankfully we already have DD (4) which makes coping a lot easier.

Feeling very nervous this time as you can all imagine and not a lot of pregnancy symptoms
as of yet which I could do with for some reassurance, still early days. Got a scan booked at the EPU next Fri but am going through the full range of positive/ negative emotions ATM.

Hope you don't mind me letting of some steam on here.

Scotlass thinking of you today and sending as many good vibes as possible.

I'm still here

Welcome mm1509

Sweep tomorrow, woohoo!!

Hello everyone

A few people suggested I join this thread as I am checking my pants every 5 minutes...

I am (just) pregnant again after having an ectopic in March and a CP in July. I am extremely paranoid and every twinge makes me worried.

In the last couple of days I have been trying to book an appointment with my GP for referral to the EPU, but no dice. The receptionist told me I can go today at 2pm (no chance as I am holding the fort at work) or in September! Or I can ring up every day and hope for a cancellation, which is just great when you have a life and commitments to plan for.

I decided I needed the certainty of knowing when I will be seen and so have booked to see a consultant at the Portland when I will be exactly 6 weeks pregnant (5 Sept). But now I am wondering whether I should move that forward since if this is another ectopic I would rather they catch it early... Does anyone know how early they can see anything on a scan?

Hi everyone.

Well phoned EPU this morning and got as far as the clerkess (the MW who I normally deals with doesn't work Fridays). Basically she was not interested at all and said as I had a scan on Tuesday and everything apparently looked ok they wouldn't scan me again till at least next Tuesday. I pointed out that I wasn't having bright red fresh bleeding on Tuesday and I just know it's all going wrong again, could they not a least check my HCG levels. She said no as post 6wks they weren't reliable but did tell me to come in Monday morning and to go to A&E if I was concerned about heavy bleeding. I couldn't finish the conversation I was sobbing too much.

I just feel like they're not taking my miscarraiges seriously - I mean can 4 times really be bad luck. I know bleeding doesn't always mean miscarraige but I'm 100% sure it's gone again (my mmc in Feb I just had one tissue wipe of fresh blood and this is omniously similar plus my boobs have gone down a bit). Bleeding is now end of AF type.

I'm so sorry to rant I just feel really isolated, my friends are lovely but feel helpless and I sense feel uncomfortable cos they don't know what to say. I don't know anyone in RL who has had recurrent mc and the only thing I can see that'll take away some of the pain is a successfull pg.

Good luck for your sweep tomorrow ILTS, I hope you have an easy delivery!

Jules you doing OK? I hope the feeding is going well now and DD is bf like a dream

tsomwmmcronshardaisymm1509rainrain good luck with everything - here's to trouble free pg's and gorgeous babies.

Sorry just reread my post and realised how miserable it sounds. I feel really selfish now, positive vibes to everyone!!

Hi Scotlass,

How frustrating, you are right no-one understands the feelings we have with recurrent miscarriage unless they have had a mc themselves. RL friends and family mean well but I'm afraid they just don't get it, I was told recently from a family member that our life was good and be glad for what we have! I know it was mean't in the best possible way but it let me see at that time unless you have been in this situation you cannot begin to understand the feelings and frustrations involved.

I have been lucky that it was my local EPU that dealt with my mmc in May and they have been fantastic with us. I phoned them when I got a BFP and they booked my early scan right away I could not ask them to be more helpful. Were you not offered any tests after your 3rd mc?

Thinking of you and fingers crossed, if you can try not to worry too much (I'm one to talk) it does begs the question that even if we go on to have a successful pregnancy will we ever be able to relax enjoy it? Here's hoping!!!!

Take care

It doesn't sound selfish at all Scotlass. It just sounds like you are having a really hard time. I'm thinking of you and I'm hoping that this is 'just' a bleed and that you'll be fine.

Scotlass - you do not sound selfish and if you need to rant, then rant away -that's what we're here for. Have you spoken to you dh - any chance he can come home a wee bit earlier? Have you got someone who can stay with you or at least be around if you need them? If it were me, I would go straight to the ED, tell them your history but don't mention that you have been in touch with the EPU. They will prob do bloods & maybe a scan/ internal exam. It might not tell you much, but at least you WILL be seen and you may get a quicker referral to the EPU.

Unfortunately, in the NHS, those who shout loudest are more likely to get what they need/want. You deserve to be seen by a HCP, not fobbed off by someone who may not be qualified to make that judgement call. Apologies to anyone who works v. hard as a ward clerk/ admin etc, but IMHO if you are not medically or nursing qualified, then you are not really in a position to decide who should/ should not be treated. Protocols and flow charts be buggered!!

Phew! That turned into a little rant of my own, but I just want people to get a fair crack of the whip and get the attention they need. No wonder I quit the NHS eh?

Scary - welcome - have only been here a couple of days myself but have found everyone to be really supportive. Hope everything goes smoothly for you. Not v clued up on scans - isn't a fhb present from about 6w? I am sure someone else will be able to tell you loads

Hi Scary,

The EPU have arranged my scan after 6 weeks as they said before that would be too early.

Hope this helps but the waiting is terrible

scotlass Agree with WMMC. Can you go to A&E today (why would you have to wait till Monday?) and get them to send you to EPU? That's what I did when I started bleeding at work and took myself straight to St Thomas's. Surely you'll see a nurse straight away then, and they'll scan you without making you go through some bureaucrat? You can't be expected to wait a whole bank holiday weekend for some answers...

Scary welcome, and congratulations. I'm sure others with more experience will come along to answer your question - I'm not surprised you're anxious, though, and it sounds like you're doing all the right things to give yourself as much reassurance as possible. The earliest weeks are so so hard, aren't they? I'm only just managing not to panic all the time after seeing a heartbeat at 8+3, but we all know how you're feeling.

ilts - hope the sweep has the desired effect - fingers crossed for you tomorrow

Oops, sorry, mm1509 forgot to say hi to you too as was having too much of rant . Hope all goes well for you at your scan.

scotslass, am at the EPU on your behalf; that is a shoddy way to treat someone who is bleeding. I hope you have gone to A&E and have been seem.

Hi to ScaryHairy and to mm1509 and welcome to the wonderful world of knicker checking. fingers crossed for you both. My DD born last June was a "third time lucky", although I also had a four year old when I got pregnant. This one was an "oops how did that happen" but it doesn't take any of the worry and paranoia away!

fwiw, I had a scan at 6+3 with DD and saw the HB and a little wriggly bean, but this time a 6+3 scan only just showed the foetal pole and gave me a few weeks of extra worry until my dating scan. Personally I'd wait till 7weeks+ if ever pregnant again (which I hope NOT!) just to make sure that something was there and big enough to see.

lol ronny; the thought of all that liquid is making me want to pee

wmmc; aches and pains better, but still there. Went for a five and a half hour stroll (and by stroll I mean OAPs were overtaking me!) round Harrogate today, with plenty of rest stops and feel much better for it. Felt like virgil was trying to kick his way out of my cervix at one point as he bounced merrily along, but it's all calmed down again.

I made some useful contacts for my fledgling nappy business today, and have been proactive with my book selling, so if anyone is looking for some nice books . Now I need to get some business cards made up.

oh, and hello to ellieG . How's tricks?

I can see some confusion here with me and daisyj........everyone feel free to call me Lacks instead....or should that be slack? (maybe after my VBAC, lol)

Scotlass So sorry to hear about not being taken seriously by the clerk at the EPU. As Daisy says, how on earth are you supposed to get through the BH weekend with this going on? Has the bleeding stopped now? If not then perhaps a trip to A&E might be an idea simply to put your mind at rest one way or the other. Thinking of you.
Totally agree that people who haven't experienced mc have absolutely no idea how devastating it is. I lost track of the well-meaning comments I received...
Scary and mm1509 Welcome and congratulations It does get a little bit easier but the worry never entirely goes away after a mc unfortunately Once a knicker-checker always a knicker-checker... However, we do have a mantra on this thread "Healthy and well" which does help. As does the support of all the lovely ladies on here of course [samile]
ILTS Hope the sweep has the desired effect or things start before then of their own accord. Good luck!

Thanks for the welcome,

Just good to chat with people who understand the feelings, family and friends in rl mean well but after the initial mc think that you just get on with it and your fine, as we all know it doesn't quite work like that.

We haven't told anyone about this pregnancy yet, don't want anyone else to get excited about it when we can't even let ourselves.

Lackadaisycal - I was thinking that the 6 week scan maybe too early I guess I am just following the EPU's advice but I hope we are not giving ourselves more worry.