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bad egg drug addicted brother wants to be here for the birth of my first born ... please help ...

165 replies

eandz · 13/05/2008 10:31

i figured i'd ask you guys.

Heres the situation: there are 4 kids in my family, me (24), my brother (20) and my two twin sisters (16). my sisters and i have always been quite good at school/responsible children...we were all class presidents (my twin sisters are president and vice president) on the honor roll you name it, we've got the certificates our parents went to ivy league schools and we were told that ivy leagues were expected of us...so i went to an ivy league, my sisters are more interested in lse/oxbridge...but our grand parents went there so our parents cant really object. (I married a guy who went to ox and it wasn't a big deal) ... so schools for my sisters don't seem like they'll be a big deal either...this is just being said so you know what kind of parents i have.

my brother on the other hand is a complete loser. Being the only boy my parents felt like he needed extra help, even made us do his school work for him because they thought his laziness was due to being a boy and that he would catch up.(he never did)...when we (the girls) were fed up with doing his school work/chores/projects my parents started to bribe him to do his own work...he got a brand new sports car the week after he destroyed the car i spent two years working for (he managed to pull out the engine out from UNDERNEATH) while he stole it during a marijuana spree with his friends...i had been studying at the time).

my sisters and i had to pay for our own cars, i had to pay for my first university degree...in fact (me and the twins) were even encouraged to leave home to learn to be independent when we turn 18...to travel between breaks and explore...

my brother barely graduated high school, has been smoking pot and doing recreational drugs since he's been 12 and says it's because he's depressed...no one understands him...no one loves him. My parents have put him in rehab a total of 7 times in the past 4 years...which is the only reason he's been kept out of jail. He was caught selling 9 yr old children pot when was 12...and now that he's 20 he hasn't even started uni especially because there is no university in the states that will take him. He tried a junior college for a bit but was expelled for cheating and lack of attendance. (the days he went in were days for exams and...he cheated on those days).

My sisters are graduating high school early (1 yr earlier than average) so they can move to London from Texas and go to Uni in the uk because my brothers habits/friends and attitude scares them. (this is completely their own choice)...

My parents (my mother is a medical doctor herself who is actually practicing and my dad is an art history phd who is a stay at home dad ) seem to think that my brother has some sort of illness and his behavior is due to 'self medication'... Although my husband and I have no problem whatsoever taking in my little sisters (the three of us are inseparable anyway) I do have a problem with my parents defending my brothers actions even though I feel like they've contributed to them by letting him be this lazy/stupid.

The real problem however is that my parents want to come for my last month of pregnancy to oversee labor, delivery and they want to stay for a few weeks after that to help me settle into being a mommy. The catch is, that they would bring my brother (who because of his excessive drug use-- not only needs 24 hour supervision but also is violent when he doesn't get things he wants) and they want him to participate in this family process because they say 'it might straighten him out'...

when i told them that this would be overwhelming, unnecessary and intrusive they got defensive...when i told them the truth about how much i don't want my brother around myself, my child or my husband my dad flipped out.

my brother is an incredibly destructive and very manipulative...and my folks don't seem to want to take 'no' for an answer.

OP posts:
RainyWednesday · 13/05/2008 21:33

I have a lot of friends who went to Oxbridge and work in a City law firm with lots more people went to Oxbridge - and plenty of them have appalling spelling and grammar! Means nowt (unless someone's actually illiterate, obviously).

Jenbot · 13/05/2008 21:59

I thought it was a joke, but then I remembered some friends I have with crazy families of their own... so now I'm not sure.

bran · 13/05/2008 22:17

I don't find anything particularly troll-like about any of this thread, in fact quite a few elements of it are reminiscent of my extended family (not my parents fortunately, they are delightfully dull and normal). I also make dreadful grammar gaffs on here, especially if I'm stressed/distracted/rushed. I mean I know the difference between there, their and they're for instance, but sometimes the wrong one just comes off the tips of my fingers.

beforesunrise · 14/05/2008 09:19

gosh you guys are tough. as soon as someone has a slightly less run of the mill personal situation you accuse her of being a troll. it doesn't reflect particularly nicely on you and your capacity for empathy tbh... let's just hope you never have to come on here with such complicated issues...

AitchTwoCiao · 14/05/2008 10:07

that is NOT what happened, bs. the six-fingered creepy boy story appeared to be told for laughs, which is rather troll-like tbh. the rest may be true, but the OP does seem keen to entertain as well as have her issues addressed. plus, there's only been about four people on a very long thread who have even raised the matter of trolling, so i think we can probably keep the lid on the 'you're all howwid' disapproval for the moment...

yurt1 · 14/05/2008 10:11

God I have a life way more complicated than the OP's and I still think the 6 finger, the little NHS digs and the American therapist are aimed to stir at the very least.....

The family stuff sounds not that unusual.

If it's true then by god I worry about the 6 finger comments.

beforesunrise · 14/05/2008 10:13

it was clerly not addressed to EVERYONE- there have been some very sensitive and thoughtful answers on here and it's been a very interesting thread on the whole. it just seems there's always someone who has to be smarter than everyone else and all cynical and it sometimes upsets me- maybe i am too soft (or more likely, too pregnant!) for mnet!

AitchTwoCiao · 14/05/2008 10:24

no, it was addressed to the people who wondered aloud if the OP was trollish, so yurt and myself to name but two. like i said, i don't much care either way, attention is attention for some people and it's no skin off my nose to try to help out in whatever way i can, but some of the details have been extraordinarily funny/dark/odd, which is troll-like imo. what i don't need is to be told off for raising the issue, even if you are pregnant... you don't know, we could all be pg on here. conratulations, by the way.

beforesunrise · 14/05/2008 10:32

ok- badly worded everything. so i am sorry if i told you off. and btw i assume pretty much everybody is pregnant on the pregnancy board which makes us a volatile bunch i suppose

AitchTwoCiao · 14/05/2008 10:42

(i think a lot of us are here from active convos, tbh )

yurt1 · 14/05/2008 11:16

bloody hell I'm not pregnant (i hope!)!!!

JulesJules · 14/05/2008 12:06

God, I hope I'm not pg either!! To me, the whole story including the 6 finger thing seems perfectly plausible considering we are talking about Texas here.... Some people are so suspicious!! I say Good Luck to the OP - keep us posted...

lollipopmother · 14/05/2008 13:44

The OP isn't a troll, she's been on my ante-natal thread for months, and unfortunately her parents really are that suspicious of the UKs medical system, she's mentioned it before. I am suspicious of other countries' medical systems when I'm over there, I always hope to God I don't get ill on holiday, I think it is quite common to think that your country has the better system, whether it does or not is another matter!

As for the 'she must be a troll because her parents got up at 02:30am' does that mean that you think they have never spoken on the phone, at any point since she's moved to London? Even I stayed up to call my parents when I was in America, and I was only there on a holiday for 10 days!!

TopBitch · 18/05/2008 05:57

To the OP

I know a few people have really tough family situations. It takes a lot of strength to cope. Try and stand up for yourself the best you can. Always remember taht it's your life, nt theirs.

And the people who come on threads just to wind it up are getting very annoying. Maybe if we ignore them, they'll go away?

Natalie1984 · 18/05/2008 12:41

get a grip girl! tell them where to go, there obsesive and controlling and it seems ur parents made your brother the out cast in the first place. make sure u got good friends around u at the time of birth bcoz u dont need controling parents around at an already anxious time and as for ur brother just put ur foot down and say no, its ur home, and and ur baby and if u dont want him there then he shouldnt be there.

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