Due February 2025 - Thread 2

[UrbanSquirrel]

Hello all, just creating a new thread to lead on from the existing Feb 2025 thread - which is speedily filling up!

@Lemonbalm8 Yes to the above. I’m speaking from a medical background but there’s certainly no alternative agenda anyone is following, everyone I know from healthcare follows WHO and NHS guidance because they believe in evidence based science and that this is what’s safest. I’ve personally seen far too many critically ill adults and children from diseases preventable by vaccines - and in people for whom the vaccine is recommended, these risks are higher than the risks from the vaccines themselves. Very unfortunately, something that’s stuck with me for years was seeing an 18 year old who was permanently profoundly disabled from a completely avoidable congenital infection that his mother wasn’t vaccinated against. It’s heartbreaking. I really do respect everyone’s right to their own opinions, and feel free to disregard my message - after all, we’re on mumsnet and should probably get our important advice from our midwives rather than this lovely supportive forum! 😂

Well, I really hope that midwives and health professionals are the ones changing minds and not Mumsnet! I think women's health is one underresearched area, but that's not a reason to not follow guidance, as the risks from vaccines are very very very low. And certainly those taking the vaccine are not test subjects, quite the opposite.

My rather jokey comment about feeling left out wasn't phrased as a question but probably should have been. First of all, as a first timer I'd never heard of RSV until it was mentioned here, so this is clearly an educational thread ☺️ Thank you all!

Secondly, it has been mentioned to others who had their 12 week scans this week, but it wasn't mentioned to me. I'm fortunate to be in a position where I don't have any health issues that might make me vulnerable, and I plan to take the flu and Covid vaccines if I'm offered them (indeed, I'll bite their hands off!). So if there are other possibilities which can help protect me and the baby, I'm in.

So could it be that hospitals in my area simply aren't offering this? Or is it something you think I should check with my midwife at my next checkup?

@Lemonbalm8 and @rcppab Just jumping in to say I wholeheartedly agree.

As someone who works in medical publishing managing the peer review process, I can absolutely confirm there are no hidden agendas, no 'big pharma' conspiracies, nor are there any vaccines that go out having not been trialled, tested and heavily reported on in the U.K. The COVID vaccines were based on a foundation vaccine around for more than ten years, but it's amazing what a sudden global need will do to get funding off the ground for it after all that time. Generally, there are so many rules in place regarding the quality of testing that most will be safe to have during pregnancy despite not always being trialled with pregnant women. Any that aren't, we'd be warned about (e.g. rubella). Not being able to find the (very often paywalled) literature doesn't necessarily mean there isn't any. I'll also be having everything they offer me, though no one has mentioned RSV to me, so I'll look it up!

For anyone concerned, I'd be happy to answer any questions as best I can, but honestly the NHS, and specifically your midwives, are the best sources to consult. No one wants to pump anyone with unknown substances, that would be completely illegal and immoral.

Unfortunately, reactions in some people will happen, though it's rare and also important to find out early on as this will often determine how someone receives future vaccines if they've shown potential allergy to it. There are plans put in place for people like this to enable safe vaccination where possible, and alternative management where necessary.

Important to remember, the first rule in medicine is Do No Harm :).

This is the guidance that’s come out recently, so you’ll definitely be offered it at some point ☺️

www.gov.uk/government/publications/respiratory-syncytial-virus-rsv-maternal-vaccination/a-guide-to-rsv-vaccination-for-pregnant-women

Awesome @rcppab, thanks so much for the link! I shall read with interest x

Hi everyone - have been following silently for a while so figure I’d say hello 😊I’m currently 8.5 weeks with my first (ICSI) pregnancy, all very surreal and still hasn’t fully kicked in.

Only had mild symptoms to start but they’ve mostly gone, which is spooking me a little bit, but have our next scan on Monday (last one was at 7 weeks) so counting down to that.

Nice having a little community of others in the same boat!

Hello @RealHousewivesFan and welcome! Very best of luck for your next scan, and we're glad to have you on board!

@RealHousewivesFan Hi! ☺️👋

Yep, I feel a bit silly jumping in having just been silently reading daily for the last 5 weeks 😂 but it felt too early and like it wasn’t real before now. Good luck with your second scan, so glad your first was reassuring 🥰

Isn’t it so strange just how much pregnancy symptoms can vary, obviously between different people but even hourly within the same person! It’s so easy to read into it and over analyse everything isn’t it. I’ve had a bit of a nightmare with nausea and vomiting tbh. Ended up at early pregnancy unit on IV fluids and diagnosed hyperemesis after not being able to keep fluids down for nearly 48 hours. I’m on meds now and it’s brought it down to only one daily puking and constant nausea but at least I can keep things down! 😂 oh well, it’ll be worth it in the end 🥰

Oh no @rcppab that sounds awful!! Though the silver lining is you definitely know you’re pregnant anyway 😂 But glad the meds are somewhat working at least. Does hyperemesis continue throughout pregnancy or is it mostly first trimester?

@UrbanSquirrel thanks for the welcome! ☺️

God I bloody hope it doesn’t continue 😂 it might though, who knows. I can’t complain too much, it’s all self-inflicted! And definitely agree with that silver lining. I’ve not had any scans or anything so I don’t have any other proof 😂

Just been for another private scan and they’ve put me back 1 day so I’m 9+4 but expecting that to change at the NHS scan 🫣
Another internal scan and it was a little more uncomfortable than last time and I’ve had a little spotting afterwards but I usually do after smears and previous internal scans I’ve had but it doesn’t stop the worry does it!
here is tonight’s pic, I’ve also got the video and baby is very active and looked like they were boxing 🤭

Congrats to all on their lovely scan pics! I’m also for taking whatever vaccines are recommended! Currently 10+4 I think but it’s almost 3 weeks until my scan and booking appt as my hospital say 13 weeks is their policy! Feels like forever!! Lots of nausea, retching and PGP seems to be returning so I’m feeling a bit sorry for myself but obv know how lucky we are to be in this position!

Lots of wonderful scan news and photos! Congratulations everyone.

Just relating to comments about not enjoying being pregnant. Gosh, I feel rough. Of course, I know I’m really lucky to be in this position but I’m fed up of the nausea, sickness and aversions.
A really strange aversion I’m having is with drinks. I think that’s worse than the food aversion overall. :(

Congratulations @UrbanSquirrel @DauntedAF @Pepsix on the amazing scan pics, really happy for you!

Beautiful scan pic, @Pepsix! The angle's great 😂 x

I read the published document and it stated the rsv vaccine wasn't tested on candidates with thyroid, ivf pregnancies, people with a bmi over 40, and a few other health conditions.
Which I find the vaccine lady should have checked any pre existing conditions before she looked to book me in.

www.fda.gov/media/168889/download

This is the insert.

I have spoken to my midwife about it, she has said it's irresponsible of the woman pushing the vaccine when it's not been tested on someone with my condition.

I'm not anti vax by the way, my family are victims of thalidomide so we all view pregnancy vaccines as the lowest priority.
My partners family are very pro pregnancy vax but his aunt did some research and consulted private healthcare individuals regarding whooping cough and they did confirm it is not actually proven to protect baby. Very similar to us being told the Covid vaccine helped to protect loved ones catching it, and then they did a u turn when it was confirmed you still catch, and carry it when you have a vaccine, it just reduces your symptoms or the virus getting worse.

@Pepsix eeeek what a lovely photo! Congratulations

Good morning all!

Long time lurker here since I found out I was pregnant with my first at the beginning of June.

It’s been lovely to quietly follow along on your journeys and see all your wonderful scan pictures.

I had my 12 week scan yesterday but baby was measuring just ever so slightly too early (needed to be 45 mm and baby was 44.8!) so booked to go back next week for another scan for official measurements, EDD and screening blood test. Exciting in a way that we get an extra scan. Baby was looking really healthy wiggling away so that is really reassuring.

Struggling with nausea and sickness which hits every evening around dinner time but other than that baby is treating me nicely!

Sending those with their scans coming up all the best wishes! x

@FirstTimeFeb ahhh lovely! I didn't even realise .2 of a mm would make such a difference but awesome that you get an extra excuse to see your little one again.
Hopefully your nausea will slow down now you're in the second trimester. I found first time round I got to about 16-17 weeks and it sorted itself out. Although second time around it's odd because I don't even feel pregnant and have zero symptoms

So glad all these scans are going well ♥️

Vaccines I will probably have whatever they want to offer me. I'm generally fit and well though so probably won't have the covid one.

Just had another scan as had some bleeding over the weekend. All okay thanks God. I'm 9 weeks 2 days and this is the furthest I have got. So have just contacted my midwife to get me booked in for my booking appointment and 12 week scan 🤞🏽 nervous wait till that now

Is anyone holding off telling people until after the screening results come back?
I’ve finally told my parents and a few of my close friends know (mainly as they worked it out and I didn’t want to lie!) but don’t know if I’m tempting fate by telling other friends until I know if it’s high risk for Downs, Edwards and Pataus.
I’m only 29 scan and NT measurement weren’t alarming, and with my daughter they came back as 1 in 50,000 so I know I’ve got a decent chance of things being okay but I’m just a bit torn, as I don’t want to have to wait another week (and my huge tummy is getting hard to hide, I swear I used to be thin!)

I'm with you on this, I'm a bit torn on telling others until we get the results back. I was low risk with my DS but I'm older now which I know will go against me, NT measurement was all good. Most immediate family know already but not friends and I agree my tummy is getting larger already.

They said if there is high risk you should know within a week so I'm thinking if i haven't heard anything by next week all is OK?!

@elb1504 yeah I’m the same! I think the sonographer said to expect a phone call “in the next few days” if there were any concerns so I think I’ll hold off until next week too! Although my mam is very excited and has probably told half of her village already!

@retrievermum the blump is real for me 😂. I can't figure out if this is actually the start of the bump (which would make sense because uterus is the size of a grapefruit even if baby is still small ?!) or just bloating?! Either way I am living in my comfy clothes 🫠 I'm off on holiday when I'll be 14 weeks and I don't know if I should size up when buying some new holiday clothes.. I'm slim and about average height (5"6) but I do have quite a long torso so I figured I might take a while to show.