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Hopingrae · 26/02/2024 09:14

Hi ladies, I've recently found out I'm pregnant again after 2 losses in a row. I'm very lucky to have a DS and I had another MC before I had him. So 3 losses in total. I'm only 4+4, but got faint positive 11 days ago at 9dpo and it feels like I've been pregnant for aaaages but time is moving so slowly. We've booked an early scan when I'll be 8 weeks exactly so waiting it out until then, and hoping nothing happens in between. I wondered if anyone else is in a similar position and wanted to share this early journey with me. I've decided not to tell anyone this time round, a lot of my close friends are dealing with newborns or their own ivf journeys and I don't want to add any load to anyone. But it feels like a huge load to me so would love to share with someone!

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Sez281 · 13/04/2024 08:54

@Rockyslife I'm so so sorry. It's truly devastating even when you haven't got your hopes up and prepare yourself. I hope you're ok. ❤️‍🩹

@LER2023 and @Nic2908 so nice to hear from you guys and that you're doing ok. I love the positivity and have no doubt we'll be seeing positive updates in the near future xx

@Traitors2024 so sorry to hear of your losses, fingers crossed you have some reassurance from your scan on Tuesday 🙏

@Ketryne so pleased to hear about your scan. I had a haematoma too but like so many others it resolved itself so I'm sure yours will too. I've also had the Nipt test (it was a 7 days turn over for the results) try not to think about the time before the test. You've passed a lovely milestone with your scan so take that win for now 🙌

Hope everybody else is doing ok. I'm trying to shift a rotten cold which I think is also a chest infection. Might have to go to gp on Monday as the cough is so bad it's making me sick. (As if the constant nausea wasn't bad enough I'm now puking for the first time at over 14 weeks 🙈)

Rockyslife · 13/04/2024 08:57

I'm just getting ready to go down to theatre, I am absolutely gutted and I don't want the baby taking away but I have to accept that there was no heart beat, and I can't face a natural miscarriage again so I am doing the right thing. I've managed to persuade them to send off the baby for testing in Birmingham so at least there's some positive from it (that's how I am trying to see it) any way, I'm out and good luck to you all with your beautiful rainbow babies. Maybe one day I'll get mine 💜

Wise0wl · 13/04/2024 09:04

@Rockyslife I am so, so sorry for your loss. I hope surgery goes smoothly and it’s really good that they’re testing baby 💕

Sez281 · 13/04/2024 09:14

@Rockyslife I'm glad that they've agreed to do the testing. I know it feels like there's no light at the end of the tunnel but you will get your rainbow baby 🌈 For now just take the time to heal physically and emotionally x

Nic2908 · 13/04/2024 13:03

@Rockyslife im thinking about you today, if you have any questions or even just a rant please feel free to private message me. I’m always here and it wasn’t that long ago I was in theatre myself. Xx

JNicko · 13/04/2024 13:23

@Rockyslife thinking of you xx

MOGMOGMOG85 · 13/04/2024 13:28

@Rockyslife I'm so so sorry for your loss. I'm glad they are going to run some tests for you. Sending you all the love and strength today and I'm so sorry youre going through this again 💔

MOGMOGMOG85 · 13/04/2024 13:38

Mood all over the place today. My 3 year old has driven me literally insane - I had to leave a cafe today before ordering because of his behaviour and just now he was helping me water in the garden but was acting out too much so I have had to put him on his calm corner (I'm sat near him right now). He's just pushing so many boundaries this easter and I'm fed up of constantly telling him off and having to do a u-turn on whatever fun thing I had planned for him.

Anyway - I've been on 50mg sertraline since he was a toddler and I've gone down to 25mg as soon as I got the positive test. Its not harmful to baby but has some very small risks so I really do want to come off it. But it plays havoc with your mood and obviously early pregnancy does too.

Speaking of mental health half of me is convinced this is not going to result in a baby, the other half is terrified in case it does. I so want a baby but I suffered severe postpartum ocd for about 3 days postpartum where I was detached from reality it was so bad. It was terrifying. I then denied to the hilt I had pnd until 18 months post partum when I became the lowest I've ever been in my life (pro tip for any of you - don't ignore pnd, it's doesn't just go away on its own if you ignore it). Anyway so yeah I've got all that going on in my head today. Crappy to be worried about 2 outcomes at once. Of course i prefer the second outcome, and I'm trying to tell myself it won't be like covid, I can have visitors, I can have 2 birth partners (husband fainted instantly and my nurses abandoned me to look after him), and also I will be more experienced, I will know if breastfeeding doesn't work that's OK..

It's funny you can bury all this trauma of miscarriage and birth, and it all just comes back hard as soon as you're pregnant again.

Hope some other people are feeling better than me today.

I'm so gutted by the recent losses on this thread too, knowing how hard it is it's so upsetting knowing some of you are going through that again and it's just so unfair :( xxx

Rockyslife · 13/04/2024 13:44

@Nic2908 if you fancy a chat message me as I'll be dipping this group, it's nice to feel not alone isn't it sometimes, just come round I am glad I had it, but was still very traumatic

H20202 · 13/04/2024 14:31

@Rockyslife thinking of you today xxxx

@MOGMOGMOG85 ah I’m sorry you’ve been through such a hard time with your MH, on top of pregnancy/loss and trying to parent! It sounds like either outcome for the pregnancy you are fearful of a spiral in terms of your health… which is completely understandable given your past experiences.
Aside from meds, did you ever access any therapy?
The pattern isn’t already woven for you - it’s understandable to be fearful of history repeating itself but this is a new pregnancy and I’m sure after what you’ve already been though, you’re not the same person or in the same position as you was last time. New pregnancy, new you, new outcome.

You sound very self aware and so perhaps building on this in therapy or engaging with some support now will help prevent sliding down the slide as opposed to reaching the bottom with a bump.

sending you big hugs.

X

Traitors2024 · 14/04/2024 07:03

SnookyPook · 12/04/2024 23:15

@Ketryne lovely news! 🥰 8+6 is fab too - the MC risk massively drops after a heartbeat at 8wks 😊 Great you've got your nipt booked in - only 2 weeks to wait until you see them again 💗

@JNicko as @30somethingttc says, those CB digital tests are notorious for being inaccurate. Also the variety of HCG can vary so much from person to person. I stayed clear of those tests this time as they caused more anxiety than they were worth! If you're only 4+2 I really don't think 1-2 is worrying anyway as you could deffo still be within 14days of ovulation/implantation. Even with using opks, the window for ovulation can be up to 36hrs after the peak I believe which is quite a variety. Far easier said than done but really try not to overthink it all 💗

@Traitors2024 hello and welcome 😊 Everything crossed for you for Tues! 4 losses is a lot to recover from - hope you're doing ok. Had any of those losses got as far as you are currently? 10wks is great! 🙏🏼🌈 Sending hugs!

@LER2023 you seem like such a strong person and I love your attitude - it will happen 💕 Although it's awful that you've had to go through 3 losses, your age is still a bonus as you have lots of time to get to the bottom of it all. I was 34 when we first tried and I'm so thankful that I was lucky with my first and conceived on 4th cycle and it stuck. I can only imagine how tough it would be to be going through similar issues trying for your first. All of you ladies in that position are just amazing for keeping on and managing to function and get on with life. 💗

Hi @SnookyPook , yea my first MC was MMC at 11 wks and was exactly 2 years ago so it's definitely playing on my mind... I've had a 6wk and 8wk scan though and using an at home doppler which picked up a heartbeat yesterday so should be confident but have every possible bad outcome in my mind!

Anyone else thinking of hiding their pregnancy until well beyond the 12 weeks? I didn't have great experiences with folk knowing about the MCs so keen to keep it to ourselves until 20wks...

Figtree11 · 14/04/2024 07:31

Morning everyone, hope you are all doing ok?
I’m 9+2 today and should get my 12wk scan letter in the post this week. Starting to get in my own head about it that it’s going to be bad news when I get to the scan.

The nausea I’ve been having peaked last week, and the past couple of days it hasn’t been as bad which is making me a bit worried.
I’ve not had a successful pregnancy yet, so I just can’t picture in my mind a good outcome.

I was feeling quite positive before, but the closer I get to the 12wk scan, the positivity is starting to dwindle

Traitors2024 · 14/04/2024 08:32

Figtree11 · 14/04/2024 07:31

Morning everyone, hope you are all doing ok?
I’m 9+2 today and should get my 12wk scan letter in the post this week. Starting to get in my own head about it that it’s going to be bad news when I get to the scan.

The nausea I’ve been having peaked last week, and the past couple of days it hasn’t been as bad which is making me a bit worried.
I’ve not had a successful pregnancy yet, so I just can’t picture in my mind a good outcome.

I was feeling quite positive before, but the closer I get to the 12wk scan, the positivity is starting to dwindle

Morning - not much I can say to help with reassurance, feeling anxious is normal and hopefully the time passes quickly for you until your scan. Symptoms do come and go for me if that's helpful to know, have had a busy weekend where I almost forgot about feeling sick and tired which obviously sets off alarm bells. I have an at home doppler which I've already used a few times (currently 10wks) but wouldn't recommend it for everyone.

30somethingttc · 14/04/2024 08:41

@Figtree11 i am the same with my scan.
I go from positive to completely overwhelmed and anxious. Poor husband can’t keep up!
I just keep trying to think about what others have said that worrying isn’t going to change the outcome and I need to put myself in a more positive mindset. Especially as I feel that I eat better and I’m kinder to myself when I’m not down which all in all has to be better for me and the babies.

Let us know when you get your date it won’t be long now❤️

@Traitors2024
I think we are going to tell people as and when after we have the all clear from our 12 week. We’ve been complete hermits the last 2 months and barely seen any of our friends or family and at work I feel like this pressure of saying or wearing the wrong thing and being called out like this big secret and it’s been getting us down a bit. But it’s totally personal and I think you need to do whatever you feel is right!
also sorry to hear you didn’t have a good experience from conversations after your MC that must of been really hard Xx

MOGMOGMOG85 · 14/04/2024 09:21

@Figtree11 I feel you. I have woken up feeling totally un-pregnant today. I'm weeks behind you though - 6+2. Do you have any private scans booked? We can't know anything until the scans... I booked mine for the 27th at 8 weeks... I hope the time passes quickly for both of us, but know it won't...

Rockyslife · 14/04/2024 09:49

Before I go I thought I'd share this with you, I wrote it in bed last night, I had to get something out of my brain 😞 some might be waffle as it was 2am
Good luck everyone routing for you all so much

I'm not sure sure where to start with this one, but I feel like there's not much more of my heart left which could be ripped away from me. Ever since I was a little girl myself I have been obsessed with children, I knew from the very start that I wanted my very own family, a loving safe unit. Some people have other dreams an aspirations, but mine were to be financially stable, but my real dream with to have a family of my own.

I would have been absolutely ok with falling pregnant at a younger age, I guess I've always been a person that hasn't want to plan their life, I've just wanted to see how it rolls out for me, but I am also glad we got to have lots of wild parties, lots of holidays and fun together, but deep down I still could have done those things but with our own child waiting for us at home. I've honestly just never pined for anything more.

I've always loved other people's children, I'd be the one again from a young age who'd rather leave their friends and drink in the beer garden and spend time playing and giving the children my attention, it's always given me a warm feeling inside and I've never not imagined myself in those situations.

When we got married I was so excited to marry Jon, because Ive always wanted that pure commitment, to me marriage is commitment, and I am very old school like that, I knew at this point I didn't want to be pregnant for my dream wedding, the only time I really wanted to focus on us as a couple and not with our own child.

When we got married I was so over the moon with happiness, but I was also over the moon that we could now finally start trying for our own family, Jon's never been someone who wanted children young, he's always wanted to put himself first which I totally accepted so for him to finally want this too and to be at this stage I was just ooozing with excitement.

I never really thought about the hardship of getting pregnant until we started our very own journey, one year had passed and I just couldn't understand why we still weren't pregnant, I guess it could just be on of those things, but again statistics say couples under the age of 30 should conceive naturally within 6-12 months, I'm guessing we weren't one of those statistics as per usual, it seems that me an Jon like to create our own difficult statistics.

After a year had passed I started to worry and panic that, what if this will never happen for us, do we not deserve a child, is my body just not up to it, is it because I got drunk with my friends at the weekend, I just started to torment myself, you could call it go a little crazy, because that kind of is the truth.

Two years have passed, and we've had all the tests possible, nothing can be found apart from slightly low morphology on Jon's side, ' this shouldn't be much of an issue, says the consultant, just might take you longer' oh well that's just great thank you for that useful information. Throughout this whole process I really have felt alone with the medical world, I just know that there are so many other couples who are longing for the same thing, but I guess we are just statistics and numbers, the UK is full of desperation right now and they're at their full capacity.

As year three is arriving, im completely out of control with my mental health, me and Jon are struggling, my mental health is spirriling, and it's got to a point where I'm not healthy enough physically or mentally to even get pregnant if I wanted too. This was causing more upset and anger and I was just a very lost and lonely soul. Eventually I decided that this was not the road that I wanted to go down and with therapy for other things and help and understanding from Jon I eventually started to see the light again, and decided to be the happiest I could be living a life just me and Jon how ever hard that was to accept.

I was unsure what was going to happen from here but I had to go with it, even though the emptiness was still very much there. In December we finally had a mirical, after a boozy day out at the races we decided to test, mostly for a joke because we know it wasn't going to be as all the other 100 tests werent, so you can imagine our reaction when we saw a bit fat positive.

For weeks we were so happy, finally I felt like a women, my body could get pregnant and I felt so much happier, sadly within 7 weeks it was all ripped from under us and I had to go into hospital with horrendous contraction pains, never in my life had any one warned me about this is how a miscarriage would feel like because it's not spoken about as a community , and it's a very lonely place. After a 2 day stay in hospital they confirmed the news that the baby was gone, she grabbed my arm and used the words I'm so sorry. These words I now cannot stand. I just feel like a sob story, someone they feel sorry for and I can't stand it.

To my amazement, I decided to be strong, I couldn't let my self go back to that dark place, because I just know that place isn't for me and won't get me anywhere, I think I am also genuinely stronger from all this shit life just keeps throwing at us. With this thinking I decided to crack on book a holiday and live my life again, what else could I do?

To our amazement, we fell pregnant again in March, I just couldn't believe it, this is our time now, I know it will be, it's got to be, surely life can't be that cruel to let another baby die, I want this so bad and will be the best mom, so this had to be it.

Due to my first miscarriage I really struggled, after weeks of fear, severe anxiety and sleepless nights, with lots of medical problems along the way yet again, we went for a check up 9 week scan to be told that our baby had died again, it had grown so much from our 7 week scan, and again those words were used, I am so sorry. I just needed to get out of that room, I had never felt grief like it in my life, this time was so different, I wasn't expecting it, I had hope and I had no reason to feel that baby had passed away.

They surgically removed my baby the next day, because I could physically and mentally go through another miscarriage, and part of me was glad that I got to have that chance, I mean how can I be saying this, like it's a positive thing, but there was no way in hell i was going through that trauma again if my body didn't have too. I was absolutely petrified to my bones, but yet again I had no choice and had to power through.

Needles, scans, swabs, sonographer rooms, drs rooms have become the norm and I just cant believe this is the life that has been chosen for me. Right now, I feel empty, I feel angry, I feel numb, I feel lost, I feel bitter, there are so many things that I feel, but as a women were pretty crazy because i just can't give up. On other situations having to go through so much we'd give up. But on this one I can't.

I think any amount of pain and suffering is worth it to be able to hold your very own baby of your own, and hand on my heart, I don't feel like I'll ever get that, I don't feel like it's going to happen for us and that absolutely eats me inside, our friends around us are all living their magical moments, unexpected pregnancys, planned pregnancies, having little ones already, getting married, and we're just living in a dark black hole. What the hell am I meant to do?

We should of had our baby this year, we should of had our baby to celebrate this Christmas with, but now we're just suffering the unknown and deep sadness again.

I just hope that one day, life will be good to us and we can have everything we ever dreamed of.

JNicko · 14/04/2024 10:37

@Rockyslife not what you want to hear but I am so sorry. I do know how you're feeling. Iv lost 3 previously. It does get easier with time. And I really do think you will get your rainbow baby. Sending all my love your way x

MOGMOGMOG85 · 14/04/2024 12:03

@Rockyslife its so random, so unfair and out of our controls - it's the worst feeling in the world.

I don't know if this will help you right now but I felt absolutely certain I would never get to have a baby. It took us 16 months to conceive the first time (half as long as you, and I can only imagine what that timing did to you) but long enough for me to go crazy, depressive. We got referred to fertility at 1 year and I was told I had a lot of large fibroids, but didn't have anything explained to me. When I got my positive test I was just picturing a baby trying to grow in my rocky womb and I just thought there's no way it's going to work. But after 6 weeks I started to relax and booked a private scan at 8 weeks. It was pregnancy of unknown location and I had to wait a terrifying 48 hours for an nhs sonographer to be available to confirm ectopic - being told "if you rupture it's a medical emergency- go straight to a+e". In the end it was mmc at 6 weeks.

Then I had an appointment for them to explain my fibroids finally. I was told there was nothing wrong, but i felt so desperately unable to believe them after what I'd gone through. The consultant told me I should be happy I had been pregnant as pregnancy is the strongest indicator of fertility. It felt like a slap in the face.

It took 6 months to conceive after that, with sonograohers having told me I'd be super fertile for 3 months. I was in hell and finally conceived on the due date of my miscarriage. I can assure you I was not in a physically or mentally good place when my son was conceived. I hid myself away from the world with absolutely zero hope for the pregnancy. I had bleeds and clots. But in the end I had my son.

Our journeys are not the same, but mine has been a hard one too and I remember reaching those rock bottoms of being in a black hole like you say - so sad and so certain I would never get to be a mum. Like you I had always wanted to be and our goals in life sounded very similar.

I wish you well in your grieving process, nothing can speed that along... but I hope you can come back to some sort of hope in time. Having tests is a positive step, although genuinely 2 early miscarriages can be nothing but horrendous chance most of the time. Not that that will stop you thinking the worst - it's the not knowing that's the killer about this whole process.

What that fertility specialist said to me was right, although I didn't want to hear it at the time. Being pregnant is a really good sign. Fyi my husband has low morphology too and we went private and were just about to do icsi with this second child. It was explained to us well - the dna is fine but his sperm may physically struggle to get to the egg. Which explains why it took us so long. This is my first pregnancy since my son and it took 19 months. I'm painfully aware that although I have no reason to miscarry - it still might happen, its a 1 in 4 chance, which is horribly high. It seems way worse when you've waited so long for the positive test to still face those horrendous odds. We started trying for our family when I was 32. I was 35 when I had my son. I'm just about to turn 39 now. Time is running low for me, but of course I'm so grateful for my son. For me trying for a second is nowhere near that terrible void of trying for the first, but its still bitterly unfair that I've spent the best part of my last decade of fertility with only 3 pregnancies, and 1 baby.

I'm holding out hope for you even if its too painful for you to do so, that there is time for this to all work out for you and for you to get your rainbow baby. I'm crossing everything for good test results for you, whether that's nothing, or something which brings clarity and helps you feel more in control or gives you more options for moving forward.

Figtree11 · 14/04/2024 15:16

Thanks @Traitors2024 it’s always good to know it’s not just me who has symptoms that come & go. As much as it’s awful having the nausea, when it’s then gone I’m worried.

Thank you @30somethingttc most of the time I try & put it to the back of my mind, because as you say there is nothing I can do to affect the outcome!

@MOGMOGMOG85 I feel very un pregnant today. Apart from tight jeans, I feel almost like my usual self which has me worried. I’ve not got any private scans booked, as I had one last pregnancy where I got bad news so in my mind I just don’t associate private scans with good news so they give me anxiety. I had an EPU scan a week and a half ago where everything was fine, but that reassurance has worn off

@Rockyslife sending you love x

SnookyPook · 14/04/2024 16:07

@Rockyslife sending you so much love my darling. Nothing anyone can say will make this time any easier. You've had such a tough journey already. I do strongly believe you will get that family you've always wanted. Also, as @MOGMOGMOG85 said, pregnancy, even one that hasn't worked out, is a strong indicator of fertility. The fact that you have conceived twice in such a short space of time after all those months of nothing suggests to me that something has kick-started in your body. And it's the worst luck in the world that these first two little ones weren't able to make it, but it really is a matter of the right sperm meeting the right egg. For some of us, at certain points, that just seems to take longer. But it certainly doesn't mean that it will never happen. Take your time to grieve, and when the time is right, you will feel able to hope again 💗

Bugdem123 · 14/04/2024 16:59

@Rockyslife sending you so much love 🩷 your post really moved me, you can just feel how much pain you're in. Take your time to grieve and look after yourself, however that looks for you.

I'm having a weird day. I had a horrible dream last night where I was bleeding. I've also just had a bout of cramps and back pain, which I think was from the way I was lying but the combo of the two has really freaked me out. I know cramps and back pain are normal but that didn't seem to stop me from immediately thinking the worst.

Wise0wl · 14/04/2024 19:42

@Rockyslife ❤️ thank you for sharing your journey and your thoughts, and I’m so, so sorry for your losses. I hope you’ve been offered support, and as others have mentioned it is a positive sign you can get pregnant. I have everything crossed for you to get your rainbow.

@Bugdem123 I’m so sorry about your dream! I get the cramping worry, I’ve had some cramping in the last few days and am just convinced something’s gone wrong. Classically am trying to ignore it and ignore being pregnant and working my way to my next scan in 10 days. Do you have an early scan booked?

Confusedandtired90 · 14/04/2024 22:11

MOGMOGMOG85 · 13/04/2024 13:38

Mood all over the place today. My 3 year old has driven me literally insane - I had to leave a cafe today before ordering because of his behaviour and just now he was helping me water in the garden but was acting out too much so I have had to put him on his calm corner (I'm sat near him right now). He's just pushing so many boundaries this easter and I'm fed up of constantly telling him off and having to do a u-turn on whatever fun thing I had planned for him.

Anyway - I've been on 50mg sertraline since he was a toddler and I've gone down to 25mg as soon as I got the positive test. Its not harmful to baby but has some very small risks so I really do want to come off it. But it plays havoc with your mood and obviously early pregnancy does too.

Speaking of mental health half of me is convinced this is not going to result in a baby, the other half is terrified in case it does. I so want a baby but I suffered severe postpartum ocd for about 3 days postpartum where I was detached from reality it was so bad. It was terrifying. I then denied to the hilt I had pnd until 18 months post partum when I became the lowest I've ever been in my life (pro tip for any of you - don't ignore pnd, it's doesn't just go away on its own if you ignore it). Anyway so yeah I've got all that going on in my head today. Crappy to be worried about 2 outcomes at once. Of course i prefer the second outcome, and I'm trying to tell myself it won't be like covid, I can have visitors, I can have 2 birth partners (husband fainted instantly and my nurses abandoned me to look after him), and also I will be more experienced, I will know if breastfeeding doesn't work that's OK..

It's funny you can bury all this trauma of miscarriage and birth, and it all just comes back hard as soon as you're pregnant again.

Hope some other people are feeling better than me today.

I'm so gutted by the recent losses on this thread too, knowing how hard it is it's so upsetting knowing some of you are going through that again and it's just so unfair :( xxx

This is really tough @MOGMOGMOG85

I’d massively recommend getting a referral to your local perinatal mental health team. They can offer such brilliant support and it’s always good to start working on worries and upsets now rather than them snowballing into what feels like a tougher nut to crack!

Confusedandtired90 · 14/04/2024 22:29

@Rockyslife @MOGMOGMOG85 thank you for sharing your experiences 🩷 it’s not easy.

It’s clear that so many people on this thread have been through so much. What a strong, caring bunch of ladies you all are

JNicko · 15/04/2024 10:14

I don't know if someone can help but EPAU rang me last week as I'm currently referred due to recurrent miscarriages. They said they would scan me at 6 weeks and I mentioned progesterone. They said that they may start it if the scan is all ok. Iv seen some people start it from positive test. Should I not be doing this?

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