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Work friend doesn't have anyone to be with her during birth

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strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 16:55

My work friend is new to the country and her husband has been taken ill. She won't have anyone with her for the birth - family can't get a visa as it will take a long time.

What will the nhs do for her?

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skulldungarees · 05/07/2023 17:51

At our local hospital you have a midwife with you constantly if you're in the Consultant Led Unit. Perhaps that could be an option for her?

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 17:51

MichelleScarn · 05/07/2023 17:48

Is she in hospital now? If not how does she plan to get there when in labour?
I'd say that's more pressing!

She's giving birth in a couple of weeks, is 32 weeks.

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strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 17:19

She's having a tough time.

Has she said that she wants someone?
Does she need an interpreter?
She can ask PALS at the hospital

Comedycook · 05/07/2023 17:52

This is extremely bizarre and quite frankly entitled. She will have her baby free on the NHS and be tended to during labour. I'm baffled as to what else you expect from the NHS?

MichelleScarn · 05/07/2023 17:54

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 17:51

She's giving birth in a couple of weeks, is 32 weeks.

Is she being taken in early then? Is there a plan? I had a plan for csect, still went into spontaneous labour over 3 weeks before that!

Hollyppp · 05/07/2023 17:55

Comedycook · 05/07/2023 17:52

This is extremely bizarre and quite frankly entitled. She will have her baby free on the NHS and be tended to during labour. I'm baffled as to what else you expect from the NHS?

Yes I agree. The midwives will be with her during her birth? If you want your husband there that’s a personal choice but it’s not down to the NHS to provide chaperones. The midwives ARE the birth support.

currently pregnant with my second (36 weeks) and DH will likely be there but if he wasn’t I would cope just fine!

OP if you’re so worried about her then I think you ought to volunteer yourself

Hollyppp · 05/07/2023 17:56

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 17:51

She's giving birth in a couple of weeks, is 32 weeks.

She’s giving birth at 34 weeks?

PousseyNotMoira · 05/07/2023 17:56

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 17:51

@PousseyNotMoira where is it £27ph??

Nikki Mather IBCLC thedoulaelement.co.uk/birth-doula/ for example

I just told you where. It’s in the comment to which you’re responding.

The link provided has a database of doulas. You (or your friend) can search, find someone suitable and discuss rates. You’ve also been provided with a link to an access fund.

I’m going to be honest, I’m finding the tone of your responses a bit odd. Do you actually want a solution?

Schoolchoicesucks · 05/07/2023 17:57

OP you're being a bit spikey here.

Does she want someone with her? Does she have friends who would be better placed than you? If not then you could offer, or point her towards the doula and funding sources PP's have linked.
Is she very young or otherwise vulnerable? Are you very close?
Many women give birth alone for all sorts of reasons. The midwives will give her as much support as they can - but it will depend on staffing levels and other patients needs whether they can be there the whole time. If she needs a translator she should flag this at midwife appointment.

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 17:59

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Comedycook · 05/07/2023 17:52

This is extremely bizarre and quite frankly entitled. She will have her baby free on the NHS and be tended to during labour. I'm baffled as to what else you expect from the NHS?

Totally agree, it’s between her and her midwife, and nothing to do with her boss

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 18:00

@PousseyNotMoira I've checked women in the area and they aren't charging £28ph. I gave you a link to one.

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MintJulia · 05/07/2023 17:06

I had my ds in Salisbury hospital. The midwives were brilliant, I wasn't alone at all from the time labour was 'established' until after DS arrived.

To be honest, they were much better than my ex who went a bit green round the gills and was no support whatsoever. 🙄

I have a couple of friends who are midwives here so this is lovely to hear!

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 18:02

DataNotLore · 05/07/2023 17:39

I really don't understand why we need birthing partners. My DH was there but I barely noticed him. Just someone else for the staff to deal with.

What is the point?

Someone to keep you company? Someone who will see you don't doing well and advocate for you? Someone who is with you all the time?

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tweener · 05/07/2023 18:02

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You're being ridiculous. "Free" in this context clearly just means she isn't going to be billed thousands of pounds to give birth on the NHS as is the case with people not entitled to NHS care.

You've been provided with plenty of options. Friends, colleagues, members of church/mosque, a doula. If none of these are suitable then it's tough isn't it, she will have to cope the same way many others cope.

Comedycook · 05/07/2023 18:03

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Get a grip. I said nothing of the sort.

The NHS is free at the point of use... therefore if her birth costs more than they've ever contributed in taxes, they won't be billed for the extra

She will be supported with medical care. The NHS cannot conjure up spare friends and relatives unfortunately.

2bazookas · 05/07/2023 18:03

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 17:33

@PousseyNotMoira because they cost upwards of £1500 and she doesn't have that money. Do they also speak Swahili?

They can be far cheaper , if all she wants is a birth companion during labour and delivery. Expensive doulas are on a longer contract to provide support during pregnancy and at home after the baby is born.

https://www.motherandbaby.com/pregnancy/labour-birth/what-is-a-doula/

How does your friend manage to work in UK, if she only speaks Swahili?

There's no guarantee the NHS doctors and midwives attending her labour and birth will speak Swahili.

What is a doula and how much will it cost?

What is a birth doula and is it for you? Find out more about the benefits of having a doula birth partner during labour and delivery.

https://www.motherandbaby.com/pregnancy/labour-birth/what-is-a-doula

Hollyppp · 05/07/2023 18:04

OP it’s beginning to sound like you think the NHS should fund her a private doula and a translator and nothing else will satisfy you. Am I right?!

confusedallthetime1 · 05/07/2023 18:05

Sounds to me like OP is spoiling for a row here. You're all massive unsupportive bigots who think the NHS should provide more than necessary for people who don't pay taxes towards it? That sound about right OP?

Smoothiecarton · 05/07/2023 18:06

I think it would be good to chat with her and establish her exact concerns and requirements. Perhaps she’s worried about getting to hospital/ leaving hospital, in which case you could maybe offer assistance. In terms of the birth itself, encourage her to speak to her team and establish what a birth without a birth partner will look like, perhaps they can reassure her, direct her to PALS etc. She’ll be perfectly fine , and will be well looked after. I’m not sure what a doula could do that the midwives won’t be doing anyway?

PousseyNotMoira · 05/07/2023 18:07

strongtsandcs · 05/07/2023 18:00

@PousseyNotMoira I've checked women in the area and they aren't charging £28ph. I gave you a link to one.

There are expensive doulas everywhere, much like there are affordable doulas everywhere. The link you’ve been provided has doulas in Cheshire and Manchester for considerably cheaper. But, you’ve refused to look at it.

You’ve also refused to acknowledge that there are funds that she can apply to for support with payment.

You randomly brought up Swahili, then didn’t answer follow up questions about whether the needs an interpreter.

You appear to want to row with people about taxes and the NHS.

Are you quite alright? This is rather strange behaviour.

ChickpeaPie · 05/07/2023 18:09

Lol at the idea of the NHS providing birth partners

LubaLuca · 05/07/2023 18:11

What's the deal with the husband's health? Is he definitely going to be out of action for weeks?

GU24Mum · 05/07/2023 18:14

Your friend will get from the NHS the same as anyone else without a birthing partner. She isn't going to receive less care because of her circumstances but there is no provision of a partner - she'll have the midwives etc in the same way that everyone else does.

Guineapigwoes · 05/07/2023 18:16

You do it op?