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Pregnant with unplanned baby, husband is adamant he doesn’t want it

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Pippin18 · 07/06/2023 00:07

Hello

i guess I’m looking for some advice.
I am 14 weeks pregnant with 3rd baby, only found out 3 weeks a go.
I was/am scared and anxious - we have DS1 6,7 in July and DS2 5,6 in December.
the baby is due in November.
we are 31&32.
failed mirena coil.

Husband wanted me to get an abortion I enquired but I couldn’t do it. Its has gotten me in a right state for 2 weeks. I told him yesterday I couldn’t do it and he went mad.

he wants nothing to do with the baby. Wishes I’d miscarry, I’ve ruin his life, suicidal thoughts ect

he’s a great dad to our boys but says he was enjoying his freedom and he doesn’t want to share me again!

he’s adamant he won’t help and he’ll regret the baby so won’t even look at it or do anything for it - it’s putting a massive strain on how I feel.

I’m so scared around the whole thing, it feels like a long time a go I was dealing with a newborn. Also I’m scared to know I don’t have any of his support.
he said he’ll be here for the boys but not this one.
he keeps saying he hopes I’ve made the right decision for me cos it’s for no one else!
he’s my best friend. We’ve got a solid relationship bar this huge thing!!
I know he’s got in my head cos it’s keeping me awake now.
with his help, love and support we’d be okay! We have more options for paid support now than ever before! - but I can’t see me getting that!!

I don’t know what I’m trying to achieve by this post, I’m just wondering if anyone else’s husbands have come round or if they stay like this?

OP posts:
ThePlasticScouser · 07/06/2023 09:36

He's saying he'll have nothing to do with the baby when it is born and he won't come near you now, and he doesnt know how he's going to react when you "show?". He's your best friend?

Seriously, what an absolute misogynistic neanderthal twat bully of a man.

If you have the strength, reverse it on him. Tell him there is no way you are getting an abortion, and how he has ruined your relationship and family and you want him to leave.

Dentistlakes · 07/06/2023 09:37

Well, he is as responsible for this pregnancy as you are! I’m afraid that when you have sex you have to accept the risk it may end in a pregnancy. The pregnancy may not have been planned but you are a team and he has no right to try and force you to have a termination.

I would hope he will come around, but in the meantime he’s putting stress onto you which is unfair. If he continues in this way I would be considering of continuing the relationship is a viable option.

FancyFran · 07/06/2023 09:38

I would place money on the fact this man won't have a vasectomy. I also suspect he will marry again if the family splits up. I wonder if he will seek out someone who can't or won't have children? I doubt it, these bullies always think they are Mick Jagger.

MooMooSharoo · 07/06/2023 09:38

Oh, OP, my heart is breaking for you.

I think, ultimately, you have to disassociate yourself from him as much as you can. He may change his opinion when baby arrives, but he may not.

Unfortunately his attitude has likely doomed the entire relationship.

If you'd gone ahead with the abortion you clearly don't want, you'd resent him forever and you'd break up.

If you have the baby, he may very well resent it and you'd break up anyway.

As a breakup is almost inevitable, you have to just do what is right for you, which is clearly having this baby.

Easy to say, but in your position I'd tell him he might as well leave now instead of prolonging it any further. He's making you ill with his attitude and you're walking on eggshells around him and the other kids are picking up on it. It's no good for anyone.

Best of luck OP.

ThePlasticScouser · 07/06/2023 09:39

He'll soon "come round" when he realises he is about to lose everything and everyone he knows in his life thinks he is the biggest twat on the planet for treating his family like that.

OnNaturesCourse · 07/06/2023 09:39

I have only read your two original posts OP.

I was in a similar situation recently. I say similar as my DH was more supportive but was very, very against continuing the pregnancy.

I was 50/50 but mainly because of his opinion on it all, and I didn't want anything coming between us.

We enquired about abortion and the stories and thought of it terrified me. They say it's like a heavier than normal period for you - my periods already require medication as they are that heavy so I did not like that idea of anything heavier. The other option was a more medical procudure done in hospital but again, it didn't sound pleasant for me.

I sat DH down and showed him all my research to get him to understand my fears. He also knew I wanted another baby (but we were not trying as he didn't) DH was still pretty set on abortion and said he'd support me through it. He didn't want a baby.

It all made me feel quite ashamed, and like i was wrong for even wanting to disagree with him. I was so very torn and, while I could see his points about the extra stress a baby would bring, I just couldn't see me aborting. I was stressed and worried for weeks, and very much felt like the burden was on my shoulders. Like it was my mess to sort out.

((I later explained this to DH whose explanation (after his apologies) was that he didn't want to pressure me and basically he put his head in sand...))

In the end I needed to get a scan as I started getting pain and I also wasnt sure how far along I was. It was there that I was told baby had a heartbeat and was growing well etc.

I came home that day and outright told DH I am not aborting, I just can't bring myself to do that as I already thought of it as a baby and my child. I explained that I had made my decision and I was happy for DH to make his regardless of mine.

DH, thankfully, just hugged me and said "I sort of knew you'd say that.."and has since started enquiries about booking his snip procedure. Because after all it is him deciding no more babies so it is him that needs to do something about.

I think overall its YOUR body. You have control over it ultimately.

Same for your DP - it is his body if he wanted it to stop making babies he should have done something to prevent it. The snip is the most effective and condoms can, and should be, used doubled up with female contriception.

pinkn · 07/06/2023 09:39

Pippin18 · 07/06/2023 07:05

I think I’m struggling with self blame a little cos I don’t want to spilt the family up as it’s unfair on the boys!
but at the same time I know I can’t live with this if it’s how he’s going to be. I will never ever forgive what he’s said I know I won’t!

It him who has split up your family.

TrainedByCats · 07/06/2023 09:40

Congratulations on your pregnancy, it’s your body and your choice

Is this the first time you’ve not accepted his view in something major? If so you’re seeing what happens when you say No to him and it’s disturbing.

Kennykenkencat · 07/06/2023 09:40

I just never thought he would act this way and say all these nasty things

You mentioned you were a people pleaser and he was your best friend.

Maybe things were going well because you were doing everything he wanted. As soon as you decide to do something he didn’t want then his true colours come out. He won’t leave because he now has in his mind a free pass to behave like the nasty cruel arsehole he has always been.

I would tell him the marriage is over and he needs to move out.

Without this constant nastiness you will at least have some breathing space and can concentrate on looking after yourself and your other 2 dc and plan for the future. You really don’t need him and his issues in your life

I don’t know if you can but I would if it is possible get a solicitors letter to tell him that any discussions about the pregnancy with his dc and are designed to alienate them from their brother or sister or you will result in only supervised visitations.

Even if he suddenly did a complete 180 or something happened and you lost the baby I don’t think you can continue in this marriage

Him thinking it will only take a few months to get over everything he has said makes him sound like he has zero emotional intelligence or like a narcissistic dickhead (probably both) either way this isn’t a person you want to be with.

NessieMcNessface · 07/06/2023 09:41

Sorry I don’t have time to read all posts so this has probably been said.

If you abort this precious baby that you clearly want so much, your relationship will be over anyway; you will never forgive him. Your body and mind; your decision, so obviously keep your baby. In your position nothing on earth would persuade me to give it up. If he loves you he’ll swiftly come round to more reasonable behaviour, but he’d better be quick about it or it won’t be a matter of sharing you; he won’t have you at all.

ThePlasticScouser · 07/06/2023 09:44

"sharing you"

This man has some very serious personality issues that this has brought out. Does he think you are his possession op?

PumpkinQueen1 · 07/06/2023 09:45

MammaTo · 07/06/2023 08:51

Worse then having a baby that will potentially be resented and feel like a black sheep all it’s life?

I think it’s a shitty situation all round and nobody is to blame but either outcome is potentially going to be harmful to someone. I feel like there’s no right answer to this for the OP.

I was responding to your point that it's unfair to make someone have a baby they don't want. Your previous post made no mention of how the child would feel.

Yes, I think its worse to try to coerce and emotionally blackmail your partner into having an abortion that they don't want, than fathering a child you don't want.

The psychological impact of an abortion can be huge, even if itis the woman's decision.

NyanBinaryJohn · 07/06/2023 09:46

StopMindlesslyScrolling · 07/06/2023 00:19

How did you get pregnant if he had a vasectomy and you had a coil?

Oh, hang on, he didn't have a vasectomy?

And he didn't wear a condom?

So this baby that he did absolutely nothing to prevent creating; he's blaming YOU for? You, the one person who did actively try to prevent the creation?

He should be angry at himself but instead he's upsetting a pregnant woman.

Start finding your inner anger. HE got you pregnant.

HE had sex with you without using any contraceptive; how fucking dare he then blame you for ruining HIS life, because his unprotected sex led to a baby.

This man is an arsehole.

Quoting this post again for the OP and for the people at the back.

Nanny0gg · 07/06/2023 09:47

Pippin18 · 07/06/2023 05:27

I have also mentioned counselling, he isn’t willing to do it as apparently what he would say there is 10 times worse and if I’m getting upset now there is no point.

He’s been acting the same until I told him I couldn’t have an abortion then boom, he changes into this person I don’t know anymore!

One minute he’s getting his head round it best he’s back to saying he resents the baby, it’s the worst thing ever, he’s praying it goes away on it’s own (which I have tried to explain to him would have an effect on me) he says he cares about me but not ‘it’ - doesn’t seem it to me.

I’ve tried to pacify him and talk through all the options so we still get time to ourselves ect but I’m just getting to the point where it’s too upsetting! He’s nearly 32 for goodness sake!

sorry for ranting, I know there’s no real answer!

There is.

You take back control. You tell him how YOU feel and what YOU want

And no, you won't live with him with that attitude so he best start making plans as he's not ruining your life.
Does he really think he can ignore another baby/toddler/child/PERSON living in the house?

He's being utterly vile and he needs to go till he can either get his head round it or just be a civil human being and accept that he's going to be a father again.

And get counselling for yourself, you need support.

Supertayto · 07/06/2023 09:47

No. Just, no. How dare he treat you this way. If he is adamant that he doesn’t want any more children then he needs to have a vasectomy immediately. I understand that having a baby when you don’t want one must be horrifying, but he cannot be a decent husband and coerce you into an abortion. The two do not coexist. He needs to seek some help very quickly and you need to weigh up husband vs 3rd baby. You both have equal rights to feel all the feelings, but it’s your body and therefore your choice. If he can’t work through his feelings and you truly want to continue the pregnancy then he needs to leave because staying and treating you and the baby this way in untenable.

upsince5sendcoffee · 07/06/2023 09:48

I got pregnant on the mirena coil. We didn’t live together or have any plans to. He would’ve aborted if he’d been me, but I knew that wasn’t an option for me. As such I said I understood if he needed to walk away as that wasn’t the choice he wanted - I knew I’d never forgive myself if I had done it because he wanted me too.

The major difference was that even though he wasn’t fully on board he said he’d never leave me and it took a few weeks and lots of hard discussions about logistics but one evening we chatted about names and something switched. Our child is 5 and has siblings.

Perhaps you could take a similar approach - discuss the exciting things like a name as a family (even if he doesn’t partake), and tell him HE has a choice. He can leave and decide not to accept his child, or he can stay and grow up and love them like he loves his other children. If he tries to pin it onto your choice, calmly state you have made your choice, as is your right, he never has to have sex again if he’s that worried it would happen again, but that he does need to make a choice this time, and his choices are neither your fault or responsibility.

Good luck, I know it’s hard and sounds like harder than most for you x

SweetStrawberrie · 07/06/2023 09:48

OP, when all is said and done, you're having this baby.

An innocent baby who did not ask to be concieved.

I know it is easy for me to say as I am not in your shoes but this would be something I couldn't come back from.

This is how he reacts when a curveball is thrown at your marriage?

I'd rather be on my own.

Nanny0gg · 07/06/2023 09:49

Nicecow · 07/06/2023 04:01

I think you should both seek counselling. Going against the grain here, but if you have a good relationship then maybe you can work it out and at the very least see each other's point of views. Its also fair that he doesn't want a baby, and also fair that you do. All the best.

The OP did something to prevent another pregnancy.

Her husband did not. So...

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 07/06/2023 09:51

The ‘sharing you’ thing turned my stomach a bit, too.

BMK · 07/06/2023 09:51

I have read all the posts and my fear is that this is not something new but something in him all along. The phrases,the lack of care for you,the selfishness, the rude manipulative abusiveness- I feel that you know all this but don't want to accept it to be as it is; I wonder have you ignored a lot and want to view him as your best friend but in reality he's your best friend as you put up with and do so much to keep him happy,perhaps at your own expense?(*when you said you were a people pleaser this increased my concern that this may be the case).
You said you effectively have done all the night feeds/minding with your existing boys and that he has rarely collected them.from.school/done dinner (or rarelydone something like that). So again, despite you also working full time and earning more it is you and your family doing the heavy lifting.

He now speaks all about himself and his freedom/life/himself. This is before the shockingly abusive deployment of suicide and blackmail clauses in speaking with you and BTW those phrases are actually designed to effect pressure on you to abort: telling you he won't love the baby,won't help with baby, won't look at 'it', won't 'go near' you, doesn't know 'what he'll do when you start to show', will treat baby differently to existing children, all the work with bsby will be yours and also if the baby has any SN that the fault for that will be yours (*this is also deployed as a further guilt tactic to effect coercion over you so you abort ); that you will be affecting the marriage and boys (ultimate prick guilt trip attempt).

I understand that reading all these comments about words that have come from your actual husband is a bit overwhelming and you likely feel trapped,stuck,overwhelmed and DONT WANT to leave him.

But does he know this and has he been in a position of kind of power over you for years now? Think about this and genuinely I think it is you that needs the counselling to give you the strength to see options.

I know you likely only want an immediate fix and to be told you're making teh right decision but the source of this issue appears to go beyond this one factual circumstance.

Saying he doesn't 'want to share you', going on about him killing himself unless you effectively do as he says and all the other basal manipulative approaches mentioned by you and emphasised by others, all point a certain way: manipulation and control out of general abusive ans controlling nature- which you may have ignored by now- or some kind of freak once off reaction that is ongoing and for which he is making no apology and totally disregarding of your feelings and health and disrespectful in the extreme towards you.

I too actually wondered if he was actually having an affair if this is out of character. The fact he says he'll never leave but almost suggests taht you may not want to be with him gives me further basis for suspicion. Also the fact that he's helped so little previously and his comments and behaviour make me wonder whether this is a pattern but usually more subtle.

You have terminally ill family and 2 children ,recent deaths and are pregnant and with a full time job so your head likely can't take upheaval on family front or even going there but for what it's worth I would absolutely be seeking counselling but choose your counsellor wisely as you need someone who preferably is a psychologist or very well experienced psychotherapist .

If he becomes involved it will become apparent to you and counsellor what is true or not but you need to go there for yourself first. He will likely resist but if he sees your strength it may eventually produce a whole new husband,but unlikely.

Meanwhile teh only things that are pure ans will be there and love you unconditionally are the 3 children you have. As another poster said- the choice seems not so difficult: pick the baby if a choice needs to be made.

Would you pick your existing children or husband if he said it was him or them?? *Surely to even place you in that position illustrates the level of manipulation and horror you're being faced with by a man who is... your actual husband...(or who you thought had the qualities you wanted in a husband when you decided he could have that place I your life. This isn't irreversible you know..)

Nanny0gg · 07/06/2023 09:53

MammaTo · 07/06/2023 08:32

I can understand his frustration if he really thought he was done having kids. You’ve been on contraception - which yes I know isn’t 100% but no form of contraception is!

The way he’s gone about discussing it with you sounds AWFUL but i wonder if he’s just blown up out of shock - a newborn is a massive undertaking with 2 kids already, you’re going back to the start all over again.

I think you need to take his thoughts into consideration as it will take 2 of you to parent (if you have the baby) and just because the contraception didn’t work I think it’s unfair to make someone have a baby they don’t want.

Takes two of you to prevent a pregnancy,

What did he do?

Emotionalsupportviper · 07/06/2023 09:54

ringsaglitter · 07/06/2023 08:52

Guys, try to remember not to bully her here. She's going through enough, and until now was probably happy with this guy, her children and life.

Anything she does, needs to be her decision, not ours/ yours.

The mans behavior clearly isn't good - there's no way to contest it lol, but she also has children and a life with him, and is trying to digest her life.

Please say a little kinder. x

Seconded.

Nanny0gg · 07/06/2023 09:55

@BMK Makes some very, very good points.

Think about them carefully @Pippin18

HazelBite · 07/06/2023 09:56

Dh didn't particularly want a third child but I got pregnant unexpectedly and had a miscarriage at 16 weeks, it affected me very badly (emotionally) so he was open to going ahead and having a third.
He was utterly horrified when it was discovered that pregnancy was actually twins. He grumbled, moaned to anyone who would listen and treated me quite unkindly, making me feel it was my own personal fault that there were two!
It wasn't an easy pregnancy, and he wasn't in the least bit supportive, but my friends and family were helpful and saw me through it all.
His whole attitude changed once they were born, and he told me how guilty he felt about how he had treated me. He ended up being a heavily involved doting father to those two, he has since said it was the worry about how we would cope both financially and practically that made him like it.
The actual reality wasn't anything like as bad as his worries and concerns.
I hope it all comes good for you OP I spent 7 months of pregnancy zoning out to DH as it was the only way I could cope!

moose62 · 07/06/2023 09:58

I think what would worry me more is bringing an innocent child into what would be an abusive marriage. Can you imagine them growing up knowing their father hates them, won't have anything to do with them and treats their siblings completely differently? the damage it would so to that child would be enormous,
I don't think it matters much what he does now - you know how he feels and how vicious he has been. Can you forgive that?
You have a while before the baby comes so don't live with this abuse. Ask him to move out - then sort your life out before the baby arrives so that they are born into a peaceful home - not one where the two parents are at war and one is ignoring them.
He has broken this marriage, not you! You need to act and do it firmly - your child deserves more than this!

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