Due August 2021 - over half way!

[Daffodil21]

@wimbler - EDD 29 July, surprise 💛
@Champson - EDD 22 August (but really June/July), TBC 💖💖💖
@coffeeandrainbows1- EDD 4 August (but most likely July), Boy 💙
@Jessicapebbles - EDD 5 August (but having C-section at 39 weeks, so really July), Girl 💖
@Smurf123 - EDD 5 August (but likely to be July) 💛
@WhatEvenIsSleep - EDD 2 August, Boy 💙
@ready2020 - EDD 4 August, Girl 💖
@Xaxnxdxrxexaxandrews87 - EDD 4 August, Boy 💙
@Smushty14 - EDD 6 August, TBC 💛
@Rattyclife - EDD 6 August, TBC 💛
@Dia12 - EDD 8 August, Girl 💖
@Biscuitcat - EDD 10 August, surprise 💛
@ElonaWise - EDD 11 August, TBC 💛
@Runnergirl123 - EDD 11 August, TBC 💛
@PurplePansy05 - EDD 12 August, Boy 💙
@Srtdr - EDD 12 August, surprise 💛
@Daffodil21 - EDD 12 August, Boy 💙
@Inmypjsagain - EDD ???, Boy 💙
@BananaHammock23 - EDD 13 August, surprise 💛
@MrsB2019x - EDD 13 August, Girl 💖
@Magik01 - EDD 13 August, Boy 💙
@Aaaaa1519 - EDD 13 August, Girl 💖
@Carefree1 - EDD 15 August, Girl 💖
@DressyGerbera - EDD 15 August, surprise 💛
@lucyrp - EDD 16 August, undecided 💛
@BertieBotts - EDD 16 August, want to know! 💛
@WolfMother326 - EDD 17 August, surprise 💛
@Caz1226 - EDD 17 August, Boy 💙
@Lille4 - EDD 17 August, Girl 💖
@Redskinsucks - EDD 17 August, TBC 💛
@RockyRockyRoad - EDD 18 August, can't wait to find out 💛
@Smallbean27 - EDD 19 August, surprise 💛
@WatermelonKisses - EDD 20 August, surprise 💛
@Alittlexmasmagic - EDD 22 August, surprise 💛
@Millymay13 - EDD 22 August, TBC 💛
@Whatshouldbemyusername - EDD 22 August, surprise 💛
@LottSE20 - EDD 22 August, TBC 💛
@Notinthestarsigns - EDD 23 August, TBC 💛
@Winecoffeeteamum - EDD 23 August, Girl 💖
@LaceyMermaid - EDD 24 August, TBC 💛
@Fran919 - EDD 25 August, surprise 💛
@ava50x - EDD 25th August, Boy 💙
@Ghhh - EDD 25th August, Boy 💙
@northernsquirrel - EDD 26 August, surprise 💛
@LyraShaeLilly - EDD 27 August, Girl 💖
@ame88 - EDD 28 August, TBC 💛
@diamante11 - EDD 29 August, Girl 💖
@HopefulB - EDD 29 August, TBC 💛
@CountryGirl84 - EDD 29 August, TBC 💛

Lyra are you OK? Just taking a break from forums or something else?

Thanks @BertieBotts. I am still in shock because like I said it never crossed my mind that a potential genetic issue linked to first trimester recurrent MCs can have any impact later on and no one has advised me on this. You're right now I've read up on it that I think this may be something to do with translocation but tbh I still don't really understand this. Most things that I read are very focused on avoiding another MC and there isn't anything much about a follow up pregnancy that is in later stages and potential effect on the baby. I'm no specialist and it's a complicated area. I didn't realise you've gone through this, this must have taken its toll on you both. Really glad your LO is fine

I am sorry if I've caused upset, not sure if it's about my story or anything else. Like I said, I am prepared to be judged and would rather that than anyone leaving the thread. I understand not everyone may agree with my views and the topic is uncomfortable but over the last 6 months we've talked openly about many difficult topics and naturally may not always share the same views. I'd rather be judged to my face so please go ahead instead of leaving.

And in any event, I've already said I'm going to back off, clearly won't be in a position to look forward to the next 15 weeks anyway and with my history it was silly of me to ever be happy.

So please feel free to stay, I am shutting up now anyway so any discomfort will disappear.

@LyraShaeLilly I'm sorry if I've caused you to feel like you should leave. I sometimes forget that not everyone is as blunt thinking as me. I will reign it in from now on!

@PurplePansy05 I hope you will feel able to stay on the thread but whatever happens, if you have the testing or whatever and want to PM or know more about translocations (if it does end up being that which is not THAT likely!) I do know a brilliant FB group that will talk it through with you warts and all. There are members there who have TFMR, those who have children with genetic issues, some who sadly lost children due to these, those who have gone through the miscarriage experience/fear and have healthy children and those who have never had a successful pregnancy so really the whole range of experiences. They are fabulous and no judgement because everyone has been through some aspect of the same experience. There are rules about putting trigger warnings etc on posts because of course certain topics can be extremely difficult to cope with at various times, if you've had certain experiences etc.

@LyraShaeLilly, Hope you are ok? Some really difficult (but important that they are talked about) issues on here, which could increase anxiety, so do what’s right for you and your baby worth regards social media. We’ll welcome you back when the time is right - take care xx

I'm so sorry all, I got so caught up in trying to support purple pansy (I won't tag in case she needs space) that I totally did not think about the fact everyone else could read the conversation and it may stir up emotions and anxieties for others too. I should have PM'd and kept that conversation off this board.

I personally have found this board has helped make my pregnancy more fun, especially in a pandemic where we can't get out and about so much. I'm honestly so sorry that I took the fun out of it (I know this is not the first occasion I have done so). I really will be a lot more mindful of others in this chat and will keep my anxieties to myself! (But also happy to PM if others need an off load).

This should be a happy time for us all - we've all come so far! - and I'm honestly so sorry my thoughtless has taken the fun out of it and has made people want to leave x

First of all, I think everyone here would agree everyone has a right to their own opinion. However, some of the opinions shared on here last night were very strong and made for difficult reading. It’s only natural some people would have found it upsetting, either it’s because they don’t agree or maybe because they have dc or family with conditions that others would deem something they couldn’t manage on their own child. There are lots of things you cannot test for like autism, which any child could have mildly or severely, and you wouldn’t know about until they were around 2 or even later, so having a baby always comes with risk. I absolutely do not take away from the fact that facing any kind of genetic testing and subsequent outcomes is extremely difficult and upsetting, but I can see why others may have felt they wanted to leave the group after reading such strong opinions last night.

I've already apologised @LaceyMermaid.

It's easy to come up with this sort of statements if you're not finding yourself in this position at this time, with my history and with apparent neglect from the health service.

But regardless I have already said I'm sorry if it's caused upset. Please can you let go now.

I would also appreciate not bringing in conditions that are not a potential consequence of this issue on here as this is not a valid comparison. We're talking most likely about severe life limiting conditions or death so please could you not throw autism and the likes into this as this really isn't the same scenario and cannot be considered at the same level at all. Thank you.

Shall we try and wrap up and move on. Such a heavy subject which is so personal to each and every one of us.

I'm not really how to move forward but I really don't want this chat to end so I'm just going to throw in a conversation starter and see how we go..!!!

Has anyone started swimming recently? I used to love swimming and miss it lots, but the pool has only just opened so I haven't been since before pregnancy. How have you found it? I can only do front crawl (not breast stroke ) - is this ok at this point of pregnancy or should I just wait until after August?!

Swimming is very safe at this point and it doesn't matter which position you're swimming in as the water will support your body. It's a great exercise! I just wish the pools were open here. I think the open air ones will be, but it's not warm enough for that yet.

@PurplePansy05 none of us know each other’s experiences on here so it’s unfair to comment on whether or not others have been through it. Everyone (that I can see) has been very supportive of your situation and has tried to reassure you they best they can as there’s no doubting it’s very difficult.
@Daffodil21 I agree I think it’s best to move on. I personally used to love swimming but haven’t been for a long time! I do wonder if it would help me with SPD issues so might be worth a try! I would think it’s best to do whatever feels most comfortable for you.

@BertieBotts agreed our outdoor ones opened first but I think you’d have to be quite brave! Is there a plan for when your indoor ones will reopen?

@Daffodil21 good idea.
I have been swimming and enjoyed it, more than walking as I find it a bit boring sometimes. Frontcrawl tends to be better for your hips compared to breaststroke legs (if you are struggling with hip/back pain). I try and do a mix of front crawl legs and breaststroke arms which is interesting!
But enjoying the exercise, as usually I like to do HITT and push myself - struggling with having to slow down!

Morning all- sending hugs to those that need it!

@LyraShaeLilly take care but hope we see you back ❤️

It’s glorious in London today. My mum asked yday if I had any cravings and I said no but I do really fancy a lemon merengue, she’s only gone and made me one! She has a gazebo in the garden so we’re going to go and feast!

Also I’d be interested to see if I float better swimming now with this bump! My boobs would look hilarious in water seeing as it would make them perky 😂

@Inmypjsagain mums are the best like that! Mine keeps popping up with things she’s made for me! Although I’m really trying not to eat lots of sugary things so I’m having to be careful I don’t indulge too much!

Thanks all. You've motivated me to at least give it a try and see if I enjoy it/can do it! I only usually enjoy swimming and walking, but I can't go walking far these days so I can never get to anywhere interesting on foot! (And the bloody car's been in the garage for weeks!)

Looking at swimwear now - there's actually so much choice!

@Daffodil21 I hadn’t even though about swimwear! I don’t think anything would fit they I’ve currently got! I was thinking of trying Pilates but then someone said to me it’s not a good thing to take up suddenly when pregnant. So maybe swimming would be better.

@Daffodil21 I've not been swimming as I'm not a huge fan of swimming in pools and am not brave enough to go in the sea or to find a nice river yet! I think it might be sensible for me to go to a pool though really, as my hip gets so painful if I walk much more than 30 mins/an hour (I popped it climbing over a stile recently - ow!).

@Inmypjsagain bless your mum, how lovely - enjoy your garden dessert feast!

On another note, I'm wondering if anyone knows the answer to my question about cosleeper cots? We have an old Arm's Reach Cosleeper, and the instructions aren't very clear. Does anyone know, what level should the mattress come up to? Currently it doesn't reach to the top of ours, so there's a little drop between our bed and the cosleeper, and I can't figure out if this is correct or if I should elevate it somehow so our bed and baby are at the same level.

@LaceyMermaid yeah the ones I have 100% will not fit me now - I haven't even tried! I'm so impatient, I want it NOW so I can go 😂

@biscuitcat same with walking and my lower back! It puts me off so I've been spending way too much time sitting down!

With the co-sleepers, if you can't get it level you would have it slightly below rather than slightly above your mattress.

If it's one which has a little lip of side when the side is down and you ever plan to use it with the side half down, you need it low enough so that the lip doesn't stick up past the side of your mattress. Babies have got their heads stuck over the lip when beds are set up like this which is really dangerous. Not in that specific model - it was an NCT branded Bednest I think. But most of them changed their instructions after that so your instructions might not be up to date if it's older.

I have no idea what the plans are here for lockdown, it's all gobbledegook and makes absolutely no sense to me. Some of my friends are monitoring incidence numbers and so on - I've reached the point of fuck it where I will just wait for an email from school/Kita to say they are closed and if they don't then ignore everything and shop online :o

I think Decathlon do decent maternity swimwear if you don't want to pay loads of money.

Useful if you decide on a waterbirth/pool for pain relief during labour as well.