TTC graduate sweep stake... Greedy or Honey next?!!

[fettleandbabyfettle]

as suggested by honey!!!

be thinking of you at 1.20pm greeds! my money is on you beating honey by the way!!

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Ready - you know I don't forget you!

Is it your go or mine??!
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bodders - i thought about 'perve' too with helping my sis out. i will have to hunt her down and quiz her. i am sure my sis will manage to do something wrong!!! and i dont feed marcy in the night anymore either. i think it takes a few nights of being a bit mean and then they start behaving!!! she still wakes occasionally ( i only mean from 10.30 till 7 too, not all night, but we are going to try that at the weekend!) hope CO is a success tomorrow. just read on...........and seen that you have stopped being a tough mummy at night..........it gets a bit much after a few nights doesn't it? and its easier to just feed them and then go back to sleep yourself isnt it? hope you cleared the poo up!!! valium is my trick with the babies!!!! all cranial osteopaths do it, you were never supposed to know!!!

my ds did hid shepherd bit in his nativity today. made me cry!!! as always!!! and my stupid camcorder stopped working halfway through so i didnt get it on camera. i was very upset abpout that. my dd (or should i say dd1) has hers next tue so i will have to get the camera fixed by then.

chooster - i can realate to mums doing your head in!!! i have had SO much to do today and been going a million miles an hour to get everything done (nativity for ds, nursery for dd1, 8 wk check for me and marcy and jabs and ballet for dd1) and my mum has decided to tell me a million pointless stories about various friends which all take about 45mins (seems like anyway) to get out when she could have told me in 2 mins!!! DOES MY HEAD IN!!!! i feel like i need to wind her up sometimes!!! ANYWAY!!! dd1 joined in (sort of) at ballet today, so i am mightily pleased!!! oh, and i won my jumperoo!!! now just need to find some space!!!

firsty - your little ty is a clever chap! cant believe they are all growing up so quickly. sitting and standing! its great once they can sit and entertain themselves isn't it? what do you mean...you love my soft side? am i not always soft??? i was one of the few mums bawling her eyes out at the nativity today!!!

i am only very half heartedly back at work! and like someone said..its actually a nice break seeing as its only a saturday morning!

fettle - toby must be giving some of his weight to marcy.....she now has about 12 chins!!! and i think she will probably grow another one tonight too the amount she has drunk today!!

ready!!!!! hellooooooooo! i hope your move goes smoothly...................and this is a great time of year to fall pg!!!! worked for me last year, so i have faith it will work for you.

)OH MY GOD!!!! just read my post and i can see why you said my posts were a bit 'madcap' before bodders!!! they dont flow very well do they? i just read and then write bits in word as i read so it doesnt flow very well when i havent been on for a few days!

dont have time to construct decent messages sorry, and i am knackered now too, so i am off to bed!!!

night!!

Greedy - you still remember I called you madcap... !

Am a bit gutted that I've given in on the feeding at night thing, but with DD1 it only took 2 nights of crying - she slept through on the 3rd, so I think that if she's still waking on night 4, that can't be right. Also I'd started DD1 on solids when i left her to CIO, and as Isla is still on milk only, i thought that i'd better wait until she's got some proper nosh inside her. Might get some babyrice this arvo She slept from 7 - 4.30 last night though, so not bad at all.

That sounds hectic with your mum! Things going OK so far with me and mine... although she keeps offering to do things to help, and then I have to go and sort her out cos she can't work out how to use the grill/dishwasher/kettle etc. and end up doing it myself...

Aww, all these little ones in their nativity plays - cute! My DDs playgroup doesn't do one, so I've missed out on that experience.

Iampg - that's good news about the car!

Fettle - you must feel like a million dollars! Did you get to bed at 10 too, or are you like me and not crawl into bed until some ridiculous time like 11.30

Chooster - Theo still being a bit of a grumpster for you? Is he sitting yet? Might be frustration - we're getting a lot of that at the mo.

Hi Ready - good luck with the move Christmas in your new house - how lovely!

Hey ladies how are you all? I?m doing ok, very tired and busy but also trying not to worry about reduced or received reduced kicking, I know the baby doesn?t have much space now and that everything is probably fine but what happened to my friend has rocked me and now a poor soul on the pg after mc thread (Cece) is having to be induced as her baby died at 18 weeks. I am just taking everything to heart at the moment; I guess it?s the hormones. Please tell me my Beanie will be fine

Fettle ? poor you, that is ridiculous about the water cylinder man, I think you should lodge a complaint. Sounds like it all ended well with a hunky fitter though Ohh do you also have the polka dot Royce feeding bra? I have the soft cup one and love it and wondered if the nursing one was as comfy? You are right; it does seem odd looking back on the last year! I remember AF arrived on my B?day last year 29/12 and I was gutted but then conceived the next cycle (I know exactly what you mean about our babies that never grew ). I?m trying to help one of DH?s friends through the whole TTC thing at the moment, its odd talking about all that again! Thank you for your warnings, I still have a hell of a lot to do but hey ? I?ll do what I can.

Iampg ?Glad to hear the house is moving on and that your friend?s baby arrived safely one of my colleagues became a granny this morning ? it was a long haul! At 32 weeks her DIL had to give up work and was told that the birth was imminent due to low liquor volumes, things plodded on and at 42 weeks she was induced and finally 2 days later she had her little boy, all is well though so it?s fab I have now ordered my baby monitor, got fed up of my faffing about. I ordered the BT150 from Amazon, it has all the features I wanted (no TV screen but I wasn?t really up for that) and I like the fact that you can play your ipod through it even if it does sound a bit tinny. Which TENS machine did you go for? You got a good deal! I got the Elle Tens on Amazon and was miffed as the cost had gone up to £53 but was still the cheapest place on line. At the active birth workshop I was at on Sunday she advised to start wearing it at 38 weeks and build up the intensity, not sure if I am brave enough! LOL about the shoes, we all have our little fetishes hon!

Any of you experienced mums put socks on feet under sleepsuits? And how do you feel about swaddling and grobags? DH was taught at Dads 2 B that swaddling and sleeping bags are bad for newborns because they get too hot swaddled and could slip down into sleeping bags. So much conflicting advice!

Hey Chooster ? sorry to hear about the sleepless nights. Is Theo missing his Amby? (don?t forget I need Bank details ) The Amby is in the bag still, we don?t want to put it up until the baby is born but DH has done a couple of practice runs, we think it?ll be fab Sorry to hear you friend MC but that?s fab news about the other two!!

Bodkin ? glad to hear that Isla?s sleeping better, she sounds so cute with all her little tricks and noises my friend who had the stillborn last year was induced on her due date (her insistence) and had a perfect, healthy baby girl

Greedy ? I have already received a useless present sorry but I have to vent ? it was from the MIL ? it is a cast iron, brown rocking horse thing, like an ornament but also could be a door stop. It weighs about 2kgs and is about 40cms wide, I HATE it I have put it (under protest and guilt) in Beanie?s room and it is so out of place and looks so crap in my lovely bright jungle nursery and I am convinced I?ll end up breaking a toe on it in the night. I know I should be grateful and accept that my MIL thinks it is ?sweet? (god forbid) but there are so many lovely things I would have preferred for Beanie with practical application and this hideous thing probably cost about £70 ? ggrrrr and breathe! that?s a big step for your sis, I hope she gets lucky soon you surprise me not having any diamond encrusted underwear ? I thought that diamonds were all your wore have you got the ring yet?? Sounds like you quite enjoyed your escape to the office!

Hey Firsty ? sounds like Ty is coming along brilliantly I am almost ready from a things perspective for Beanie to arrive but not sure I am mentally or physically ? still feels like it?ll all happen to someone else!

Hope you are keeping well Rainbowdays x

Ready ? hope the move goes well hon x

Never made it back yesterday and I'm sure Theo will wake again soon so not got long!!

Good to hear from you ready - good luck with the move and of course with baby making .

greedy - wow you really have got marcy whipped into shape! Thats fab! I'm a total walk over and still feed Theo at least once a night. I must get tough soon!!! But like you Bodders I'm going to wait until theo has started on some soid food. I think I'm going to get some baby rice tomorrow and give it another go. I read a thread in weaning and saw your post Bodkin about Isla pullig away when she's feeding and being unsettled. Theo is EXACTLY the same at the moment. What is it with them eh!? Anyway I was at 'weigh-in' today to see if it the quick unsettled feeds had made him change percentile, but he's still around the 75th ish so its not affecting him. But the HV did suggest that he is probably teething as his bot is a little sore for the first time and she said that they get more acid in their stomachs when teething so that could be making him have a bit of reflux again ?? . Not sure, but she did say some soid food may help.

Well done Greedy DD1 on getting involved in ballet! I signed Max up for his swimming lessons but they dont start until 11th January so I've got some time to introduce the idea .

Ahhh, run out of time again.... Theo waking. I'l be back!

chooster - marcy wasn't difficult to 'whip into shape' really!!!! she is a VERY obliging baby!! poor little thing doesnt have much choice really! she has been in and out of her carseat 5 times today and in and out of her buggy 3 times bless her!!! if that had been my ds we would have had sick everywhere!!!! he used to puke as soon as we moved him!!! thank god she's not a sicky baby!!

she weighs 14lb now and still isnt bothered about her morning milk too much so i might try dropping her 10pm bottle very soon!! SCAREY!! i have just finished dd1's saussage and tomato pasta that she didn't eat!!! kids tea leftovers is my downfall! i will get even fatter when there are 3 to finish off!!!

mrs - i have never put socks on under a sleepsuit, but today it would have been a great idea!!! kept marcy in a sleepsuit all day today and her little toes were very cold every time i changed her bum! i swaddled both my girls in a sheet and they loved it, especially dd1! don't think they got too hot at all. and i used sleeping bags as soon as they were a bit bigger. i think they recommend they are at least 9lbs before you use them anyway. sorry you are hearing so much sad news lately, but try not to let it spoil your last few weeks of pregnancy too much. ( i am getting my ring for xmas!!! cant wait!!!..and i really havent got many diamonds!!!!)

bodders - sounds to me like isla will be sleeping all the way through pretty soon so i wouldn't worry too much about giving in on the nil by mouth!! ( and of course i rem you calling me madcap!!! just like you rem me calling impatience perve!!)

Hi girls - just popping on to say hello and saw Mrs thread about Cece. I "met" her with my 1st mc last year and now this has happened to her, just so very very horrible and sad. Coupled with my neighbour last week as well. Feel like crying my eyes out - why is making babies so difficult?

Mrs - if you ever worried at all, you get yourself down to the day assessment unit. When I had my problems in late pregancy, I said I was worried about wasting their time and they replied that no pg woman ever wasted their time and if I ever felt that movements were even slightly reduced to what I normally felt to give them a ring asap. And stuff work, if they push you too hard - you're not planning on going back.
Horse thing does sound pretty hideous (sorry!).

Greedy - you wouldn't be you, if you weren't madcapped!!! Marcy sounds like an angel baby - you lucky thing!

Chooster - teething is pretty rubbish, but I hope Theo cheers up soon for you - what are your plans for Christmas again? Are you getting together with family who may be able to help when he's grumpy, or will they all just tell you to feed him all the time?!

Must get to bed myself, so big waves everyone else. How are the pregnant bumps growing? I'm losing track. We've got 3 babies arriving in January, is that right? And then when is the next one due?

Think I'm in for a bad night tonight - went to Christmas drinks tonight, so Toby last fed at 5.30pm and has been asleep since 6pm - no sign of waking - still in his car seat now. DD fell asleep in the car on the way home and DH carried her sleeping to bed! Toby slept through again last night (9pm-7am), so I suppose I'm due a bad night again! Taking him for his next set of injections tomorrow as well.
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hi all... sorry havent been on here for a while- all been a bit busy.

i went and had a scan the other day cos of this bleeding- there was some 'stuff' but not enough to warrant a d and c apparently... so i'll just have to wait for bleeding to stop itself . I want a PROPER SHAG!!!!!!

mrs- your baby will be fine, don't worry. Dex has slept in a grobag since about 2 wks old... i swaddled him before this with one of those holey baby blankets... never tried socks under sleepsuit... cant find any that stay on anyway... maybe socks OVER sleepsuit
Feel the back of baby's next to test his temp... hands and feet are often freezing.

CANT WAIT FOR CHRISTMAS!!!

typing one handed with Dex asleep on me, he has been crying on and off since i picked DC up from school... knew the angelic baby wouldnt last!!

Hi everyone - I am soooo sorry I have been a crap poster recently - in fact I have not had time to even lurk and see how everyone is doing I am really hoping to be able to catch up soon.

Warning - Whining moan alert on the way

Life is a stupidly hectic right now - in fact I can hand on heart say that I have not been this busy or this stressed for at least 2 years - and it is such bad timing as I am also just starting to feel really pregnant IYKWIM! _ I've been lucky so far I know but now the 'heaviness' is beginning to take its toll. Work is awful - behind schedule, over budget and now a property crisis on the way - I hung up from an estate agent last week in tears . Now I just want to not care anymore but if I don't I will go bankrupt! arghhhh. Added to that we still have builders in our house too and nothing is ready for the baby, the house is covered in dust and I cant find anything - grrrr. Everyone seems to want a piece of me at the moment and although DH is being fab there is only so much he can deflect I just want to bury my head in the sand

I am feeling so sorry for myself which is stupid and pointless but I just want to be concentrating on being pg right now - we waited so long for this and I want it to be my priority - instead half the time I completely forget poor Dave is even there I wanted to be reading my books and listening to music and washing baby clothes - cue spoilt feet stamping

Good news is we had a scan on Monday and Dave is head down on the left and then kind of lying diagonally across me I think? But all is well - I have never been so happy to hear the words average and normal than since I have been pg! His measurements are all right down the 50th centile and he is weighing in around 5lbs so hopefully it is all good on that score.

Sorry again for total selfish rant and for being a poor poster - I hope everyone is OK - honeyapple hope all gets better soon and that little Dex is doing better.
Everyone else - I will try and catch up - miss you all!!!

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Oh seaside - sorry everything seems so stressful for you at the moment. Rest assured that little Dave is well protected and happy inside you oblivious to the world around you. Just try and put your feet up at least once a day and relax. Need to keep your blood pressure down!

Honey - sorry you're still bleeding. I'm with you on the sex sentiments - can't wait until I heal properly. Starting to have dreams that DH is having an affair as he can't have sex with me and it was so life-like last night, that I've been feeling lost all day!

Anyway, just wanted to say that my little angelic Toby slept for 12 hours last night 7-7! didnt' feed for over 13 hours! Must be those injections he had yesterday. But that is 4 nights in a row now he's slept through! i'm loving this no routine baby!!! Tonight will be bad I should expect, particularly as we all need to be refreshed for our Mary, Joseph and Jesus moment!!! Hope it is not too cold and doesn't rain!

take care all
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quick skim and very sorry you are so down seaside. i think i felt very similar at the end of this pg too. felt like i had no time at all to concentrate on the baby or relax when i really wanted to. like fettle said, dave is nice and comfy in there and it wont be affecting him in the slightest, but i know how you feel and its not great is it. i still feel like i have no time for marcy now, but for different reasons and that upsets me at times too.

i've not had a great day today to be honest, feeling very teary! had a fab night out with all the nursery mums last night and got far too drunk so i have been a bit hungover all day which i think has made me less tolerant of everything!! marcy has been taken over by the devil for the afternoon and has screamed and screamed for no apparent reason other than to piss me of and make my head hurt!! ds has just been an annoying 4 year old all day and i have to say dd1 has been a superstar, but because of that she has been mostly ignored and the other whingy two have had my attention (poor dd1, she is such a star most of the time)

anyway! lots of beer for me tonight i think which is probably a bad ide but i dont care!!!! and i am going to leave marcy tonight and not wake her up for her 10.30 feed. i am stupidly hoping she will go through till 7 tomorrow morning! my other two didnt go 7-7 till 11 weeks so i am being a bit keen!!! but hey its worth a shot!!

ok......off to drown my sorrows and stuff my face!!!!!

i think my keyboard has gone a bit dodgy.......lots of random letters mising in my last post! too many biscuit crumbs i reckon

Hi all

Someone on the pg after mc thread admitted to stalking my posts from beginning of this year, as she like me has conceived immediately after a mc. It made me go back read some of our posts from earlier this year - all very weird going back to TTC days! Can't believe the change that has happened since Christmas last year! (sorry just emotional. I knew miscarrying around Christmas would mean I wouldn't forget my mc this year!).

anyway, Toby woke at 5am this morning (although he re-settled very quickly after feeding, it means my run of sleep throughs has been broken. Never mind, they were good while they lasted! He excelled himself as Jesus today. Slept while I was hiding him under my cloak and then woke up as I laid him in the manger, where he lay happily looking around wide awake. He was very smiley when I picked him up (I thought he was a getting a bit cold, but was actually he was a bit hot as the hot water bottled under the straw was obviously heating him up a bit too much!).

Anyway, hope everyone else is ok? Greedy hope the hangover has lifted?

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Last post before my move... offline for a time. but just wanted to wish you all Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Hope to be joining this thread before too long

xx

Hey all

And a very merry Chrimbo to you too Readyclaus May 2008 bring you all you wish for

Greedy - did Marcy go through then? Hangovers and babies are not good are they... even if I don't feel physically rough, I just can't cope at all if I've had a few drinks. I had a night out with the girls on Thursday, then on Friday it was DD1s Xmas party and needless to say, the MLSB howled all the way through it. I missed DD1 going up to get her pressie from Santa because I was pacing around with isla to keep her quiet. Made all the worse by the fact that there was another 5 month old there who did not make a single peep the whole time Twas a struggle to keep from bursting into tears in front of the whole of DD1s preschool

Mind you, she did sleep through until 5am the other morning - so she's redeemed herself since!

Hey Fettle - your own stalker - wow, you're a celeb now!

Hi Seaside - poor you - I know the feeling of too much work and not enough time to concentrate on and enjoy the pregnancy. Come and offload on here whenever you need to

Chooster - have started Isla on a bit of baby porridge in the evenings - was going to wait until 6 months, but, welll, pffft, seems a long way off! She's only eating about a teaspoon all told, but it seems to make her a bit more settled. She's gott a bit of killer nappy rash too - she's had it for weeks now, and it's ok if I keep whacking on the Metanium, but the minute I stop using it, it's back grrrrr.

I would like to give thanks for my family's health, as I feel pretty unlucky on the old heating and hot water side of life! Our heating pipes have just exploded in the garage! Can't get hold of the plumbing/heating man, so we have NO heating or hot water for the time being!

Hope everyone else is warm and cosy!!!
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Oh God Fettle - what a day for that to happen! Its freezing today!! You poor poor bugger. I hope you're able to get it sorted soon? Really not what you want with two little people. I was at my friends today with the boys and their boiler had just packed it in at lunchtime too, it was a joy to get home - sorry I'm not helping much am I .

Anyway, ladies, I'm SURE that bodkin, firsty and me are ahead of Greedy and Fettle in getting the 'sleeping through the night' thing going on . You ladies just need to get to the back of the queue where you belong . Seriously though, it must feel fantastic to get some good unbroken sleep! I can only vaguely remember that from, ummmm, May I think . Having said that Theo did sleep through til about 4.30 last night and settled well again so I really can't complain although he has had some pretty awful nights recently. During the day though he is back to being his normal chirpy self too.

Bodkin, sorry to hear that Isla was grumpy at DD1's big moment. I really feel for you when you said you felt like crying. I'm not surprised, an unconsolable baby takes its toll doesn't it. Glad the baby porrige is going down well. I've also started Theo on food, about 3 days ago. I've given him some baby rice (YUK!!!), butternut squash and banana at lunch times and he seems to really like it.

Sorry Seaside that you are having a tough time too. I really know what you mean when you say that you just want to enjoy the last weeks of pregnancy and spend some time preparing. As Fettle says, Dave will be just fine, but its you that needs to find a bit of R and R time. I hope it comes along soon and all the people being horrible to you buck their ideas up .

Phew, anyway better dash, more presents to wrap and going to head to bed early...

Hope to catch up tomorrow. Hope all of you are well If any of you are interested, I've uploaded a photo from Sat night - please tell me I am not that massive or all over the place as most of MILs friends said I was!

Mrs - you are 8 months pregnant, not massive! you're looking good - your hair is glowing!!!

Tried to work out from your bump whether you're having a girl or boy, but I'm not sure. Mostly out front would indicate a girl - would need to more picturs from different angles to make a more educated guess!

Only 4 days left til ML!!!!

Hope everyone else is well - i'm procrastinating from my christmas cards - was all organised and had them bought back in early November, but never got around to writing them and now running (if not already run) out of time!!!

take care and enjoy your heating!!! We're freezing! And we are all coming down with awful colds - hope Toby is ok as he is really not very happy.

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You look fabulous Mrs and just nicely rounded being 8 months pregnant!! You may remember us July ladies having a moan about people commenting on size - no idea why they think its funny to comment on how big people are. I must remember that myself when I see my friend who is expecting twins on Sunday as she says she is already massive at 16 weeks.

Great to hear from you Firsty! I bet lunchtimes are manic for you . Shame that Ty has started gagging, Max used to do that and it took me ages to crack it so I've no great suggestions, but I think perserverance is the key. Theo seems to be enjoying his food so no issues so far

Anyway my little cherub is sleeping so I'm going to sit down with a cup of tea and a magazine - Bliss!!!!! He only ever sleeps for about 40 mins so I;ve got about 20 mins left.... and counting...

Ooops, she's not expecting twins on sunday - I'm seeing her on sunday... right, 18 mins left

gorgeous pic Mrs- you look the very picture of a glowing mum-to-be .

sorry- back soon xx